Of course thorough successfully completing a thorough firearms education should be a prerequisite, but beyond that, we must accept that the police cannot be everywhere all the time.
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
Time to allow concealed carry after successful firearms education?
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I am of two minds about it. Emotionally, I like the idea. I do have a restricted license, and would like to carry my gun at times. Intellectually, I know it would be a disaster. For every person who successfully defended him or herself from robbers, rapists or terrorists, you would probably have five or six who got drunk and shot someone during an argument, and ten more who accidentally shot themselves or someone else.
That's why I said after a thorough firearms education which would include applicable legal education.
After the events in Paris, the reality is that we can no longer count exclusively on the police.
I would however support the right of religious organizations to ban firearms at their meeting places and places of worship at their discretion.
I could also support firearms carry on private property by invitation only with the property owner having the right to sue.
This would mean for example that unless your host (whether at a private residence or a restaurant or a church) explicitly invites you verbally or on a billboard to freely carry your weapon, that you could risk a lawsuit by doing so.
No, I've never had a carry license. I'm not sure why that matters, though. Human nature is human nature. A carry license does not turn you into a different person nor make you incapable of accidents - as we've seen a number of times from police.
Again, I agree with you emotionally. Everyone in Canada who has a restricted license has had to go through firearms education. I didn't note any superior restraint or intelligence or self-control among my class, though, or at the gun club, than what I see at work. People are people. If everyone is armed the likelihood of accidents increases exponentially, as does the chance some idiot will decide to use his gun in an inappropriate/illegal way.
And in all likelihood, if you pull out your 9mm hand gun against two guys with Kalashnikovs you're just going to die anyway.
Why are the personal liability insurance premiums so low for people who have carry licenses for target shooting or other reasons in Canada.......
Look it up then come back without bullshïte arguments!
Look it up then come back without bullshïte arguments!
I'm not sure why you think insurance premiums are relevant, especially in Canada. It's virtually impossible to get a carry license in this country except for your job, so the company itself would accept the liability. And so very few people have carry licenses as individuals I doubt insurance companies ever even bothered to change their standard personal liability policies.
Cops shoot themselves by accident. You have regular people carrying guns around doing the groceries and going to parties and the number of accidents will multiply accordingly.
Why not let's all shoot the shyt outa each other. As long as parasites can obtain weapons illegally what choice is there? Only one's making hay on this crap are the gun manufacturers.
Great idea... Why didn't I think of it??
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/138741-allow-trained-canadians-obtain-authorization.html
Mods are slack'n :lol:
I wouldn't want to carry all the time.. (around town here not needed anyway ☻)
With cell phone and all the junk one has to carry nowadays....a sam brown belt would be needed ☺
With cell phone and all the junk one has to carry nowadays....a sam brown belt would be needed ☺
I feel as naked as a jay bird without my 9mm here in Canada 
I think every Canadian should have a right to carry a firearm after proper training and a mental wellness evaluation.
I think every Canadian should have a right to carry a firearm after proper training and a mental wellness evaluation.
We could add more rules too. For exanple, a pilot cannot consume alcohol within 24 hours of a flight. We could do the same for concealed carry.
I'm just posing this as proof that I don't bullshïte
Those who know my name will be able to make it out through the blur.....:wink:
I have let my permit expire a couple of years ago because I didn't need it anymore.....
Yeah, um, I know this might hurt a little but it's actually not the be all end all of my life to memorize all the threads you started......two weeks ago.
I could see adoption of an out-of-sight-out-of-mind weapons policy as follows:
1. Only those who successfully complete the weapons education course can conceal-carry their pistol or submachine gun.
2. No one will be forced to carry a weapon.
3. The weapon must always be out of sight except when in use. This means that a pistol must be hidden under the clothing, a submachine gun in an un revealing case or kept in one's personal bedroom except on a firing range.
4. No weapon is to be brought onto private property without the express invitation of the property owner to do so.
I'm not particular fond of weapons myself and have no interest in buying one.
That said, just the knowledge that people would be allowed to own such weapons and that there might be people carrying a concealed weapon in any given location could be enough to thwart at least some terrorist attacks.
1. Only those who successfully complete the weapons education course can conceal-carry their pistol or submachine gun.
2. No one will be forced to carry a weapon.
3. The weapon must always be out of sight except when in use. This means that a pistol must be hidden under the clothing, a submachine gun in an un revealing case or kept in one's personal bedroom except on a firing range.
4. No weapon is to be brought onto private property without the express invitation of the property owner to do so.
I'm not particular fond of weapons myself and have no interest in buying one.
That said, just the knowledge that people would be allowed to own such weapons and that there might be people carrying a concealed weapon in any given location could be enough to thwart at least some terrorist attacks.
I don't know about submachine guns but a friend of mine went to winter in Texas a couple of years ago, and attended a couple of bluegrass festivals while he was there.
One night he forgot his expensive D18 Martin, on the table besides his trailer overnight.
When he remembered the next morning while having breakfast, he rushed outside, and his guitar was still there.
His neighbor, a Texan, told him at the same time tapping his holster on his hip...."Don't worry buddy.....we look out for each other around here"........
One night he forgot his expensive D18 Martin, on the table besides his trailer overnight.
When he remembered the next morning while having breakfast, he rushed outside, and his guitar was still there.
His neighbor, a Texan, told him at the same time tapping his holster on his hip...."Don't worry buddy.....we look out for each other around here"........
Also add no conceal-carry allowed within 24 hours of having consumed any alcohol.
Also add that being caught on private property with a weapon without the express invitation of the property owner could risk a lawsuit for having violated his right to a weapons-free property.
Any weapons violation results in a permanent confiscation without compensation of the weapon in question.
We could consider other rules too, but in the age of random terrorist attacks, we need extra protection.