Three weeks left: Will you change your mind

[Jersay]

Well we have three weeks left in a campaign and one more television debate.

The conservatives are closing in on the Liberals, a new scandal has emerged and there are reports the Layton is to shave his mustache.

I am solidly behind the NDP, there is nothing that can change my mind unless something dramatic happens. And I do not mean with conservatives taking the lead, I don't care which big party wins, I only care about if the NDP strays from vision.

 

[bluealberta]

Well we have three weeks left in a campaign and one more television debate.

The conservatives are closing in on the Liberals, a new scandal has emerged and there are reports the Layton is to shave his mustache.

I am solidly behind the NDP, there is nothing that can change my mind unless something dramatic happens. And I do not mean with conservatives taking the lead, I don't care which big party wins, I only care about if the NDP strays from vision.

It is time for a change, and the only "big party" that can do that is the Conservatives. I will not change my vote, Conservatives all the way.

Go Stephen go!!

 

[FiveParadox]

I will not be changing my vote; I will be voting for the Liberal candidate for Newton—North Delta, Sukh Dhaliwal.

While I do have concerns regarding accountability and transparency with the Liberal Party, I cannot vote in favour of a party who would rescind the Civil Marriage Act, or who would have supported the war in Iraq, or who would have supported Canada opting into the Balistic Missile Defence shield. And while I would love to vote for the NDP, that could make or break a Liberal Minority Government over the Conservatives.

 

[the caracal kid]

my leanings will sway up until election day since i am acting to prevent tyrany from coming to ottawa.

welcome to 2006, in 3 weeks we will see if canadians decide to anoint 2006 "the year of the jackass". i certianly hope not.

 

[Roy]

While I do have concerns regarding accountability and transparency with the Liberal Party, I cannot vote in favour of a party who would rescind the Civil Marriage Act, or who would have supported the war in Iraq, or who would have supported Canada opting into the Balistic Missile Defence shield. And while I would love to vote for the NDP, that could make or break a Liberal Minority Government over the Conservatives.

-Are you sure Paul Martin would not of sent troops to Iraq at the time, because there have been reports stating otherwise! Do you really belive Martin's I was never behind the war stance?

-Are you completely informed on the BMD issue...are you aware of NORAD? Did you know it was of no cost to Canada? ...they simply wanted us to be in the room if a missile attack ever occured! Now we are not going to have a say. Are you sure Canadians are better off with our government not knowing or having input on whether a missile is shot down over Canadian soil? Does this best serve our interests?

Isen't Grewal not running in your riding this this time around? What if they Liberals really were trying to lure him over.....I wonder how the Belinda Stronach deal went down.

 

[FiveParadox]

Reasoning Stands for the Moment

Are you sure Paul Martin would not of sent troops to Iraq at the time, because there have been reports stating otherwise! Do you really belive Martin's I was never behind the war stance?

I do in fact believe his "stance;" the fact that the Hon. Stephen Harper asserts that he was opposed to opting into the war in Iraq is quite disheartening, considering the fact that he apologized, on behalf of Canada as the Leader of the Opposition, for not having joined the war.

Are you completely informed on the BMD issue...are you aware of NORAD? Did you know it was of no cost to Canada? ...they simply wanted us to be in the room if a missile attack ever occured! Now we are not going to have a say. Are you sure Canadians are better off with our government not knowing or having input on whether a missile is shot down over Canadian soil? Does this best serve our interests?

Facilities would have been constructed on Canadian soil, over which the Government of Canada would have had no control. That would have been a risk to both Candadian security and sovereignty, and therefore would have been unacceptable; I completely support both the Rt. Hon. Jean Chrétien, and the Rt. Hon. Paul Martin in their refusal to opt into the program under those conditions.

[Isn't] Grewal not running in your riding this time around? What if [the] Liberals really were trying to lure him over.....I wonder how the Belinda Stronach deal went down.

Correct, the Hon. Gurmant Grewal has resigned in the riding of Newton—North Delta; in his stead, Phil Eidsvik has received the Conservative Party's nomination in this riding. However, the Conservatives' reputation in this electoral district has been badly tarnished, and I seriously doubt that they are going to be able to have Mr. Eidsvik elected to the Commons.

As for the "Belinda Stronach deal," I support her decision to leave the Conservative Party. She had always been a more "moderate" member of the party, and moderate Conservative views in the previous Session of Parliament were becoming more and more unwelcome under the leadership of Mr. Harper. Moreover, in my honest opinion, I believe that she has served our country far better as the Hon. Minister of Human Resources and Democratic Renewal than she ever had as a member of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition.

:!: Note Quote of Roy was edited for grammar and readability.

 

[Roy]

Paradox you also talk of the Liberal partys great job on the economy. The Liberal Party have had the benefit of having the Free Trade Agreements in place when they came in way back in 1993...this has had a huge effect on our economy. None the less we are nowhere near where we should be. Our productivity has been in decline when compared to the US and other countries, which has an impact on our quality of life. If our economy is the "gem" of the G8 then why the hell are we getting screwed on income taxes? The liberals have been giving us tax cuts over the years, but soo small they are that we don't feel it. They have lied and are involved in many scandals, and the Sponsorship Scandal has cause a resurgence in Quebec seperatism and western alienation..... this is solely the Liberals fault.

The liberal equilization deal is a joke, Martins idea of making deals with the province who crys the loudest is unfair and causes resentment all over Canada. His gun policies are COMPLETLY out of touch with reality, just watch CPAC out here in Saskatchewan or Alberta when they interview people door to door. The Liberals wanted to wait for Gomery for the sole reason of having more time to BUY YOU VOTE!!!....nobody can deny that.

Liberals head into the campaign scandal plauged again, and with nothing to offer but the same governemt we have had for a decade and a half..........they offer dishonet ads ( ex- Harper and Duceppe plan to break up Canada ad) which use "fear tactics". The Finance leak, the border racist website, the phoney Martin debate "handwaving captain Canada" clips...make me wanna puke, arrogance and culture of entitlement, not to mention the disregard for the Canadian parent "beer and popcorn".....geezz I could go on and on and on.......

....funny the only thing that seems to matter is that the CPC will put SSM to a vote in the house, and they promised not to use the notwithstanding clause. :? ....aern't there more importaint issues of the day?....and don't give me the Harper is Mulrony crap.

 

[FiveParadox]

Notwithstanding Clause

The Government of Canada can no longer re-instate the "traditional definition of marriage," because the Supreme Courts in several Provinces have already ruled to the contrary. Even if the Government were to repeal the Civil Marriage Act, the rulings in those Provinces would continue to stand; and the only way for the Government to overrule those courts would be to invoke the notwithstanding clause. Otherwise, no piece of Government legislation has the authority to overrule a Supreme Court of a Province.

 

[the caracal kid]

Indeed Roy, Harper is no Mulroney!

All the stuff you claim as the root cause for the "good" under the libs is because of Mulroney. Harper would undo the Mulroney good, undo the liberal good, and leave the country in poor shape.

selective memory. while so far in this election the libs have fumbled the ball, it is amazing how quickly you forget the same type of behaviour coming from the cons, and coming from Harper himself! Please do not compare Harpie to Mulroney for Harpie could not even come close to filling Mulroney's shoes. Harper is a hack.

Now, as i have said before, i do not support the libs. I will not watch people try and make Harpie into something he is not just out of a reaction to the libs.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Three weeks left: Will you change your mind

I will not be changing my vote; I will be voting for the Liberal candidate for Newton—North Delta, Sukh Dhaliwal.

While I do have concerns regarding accountability and transparency with the Liberal Party, I cannot vote in favour of a party who would rescind the Civil Marriage Act, or who would have supported the war in Iraq, or who would have supported Canada opting into the Balistic Missile Defence shield. And while I would love to vote for the NDP, that could make or break a Liberal Minority Government over the Conservatives.

You are aware, are you not, that Paul Martin has said he was against Gay Marriage, supported the war in Iraq, and was supportive of the BMD Shield? He is on record for all these issues. It must be SO confusing to be a liberal. :roll:

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Three weeks left: Will you change your mind

my leanings will sway up until election day since i am acting to prevent tyrany from coming to ottawa.

welcome to 2006, in 3 weeks we will see if canadians decide to anoint 2006 "the year of the jackass". i certianly hope not.

Only if we reelect the corruption of the Liberals. Tyranny is already in Ottawa, concentrated in the PM's office of Pauly Martino and Liberanos.

 

[Suzique39]

I had to vote Maybe, I am not sure yet who I will vote for. I am sure I will vote for which ever party I think can beat the Conservative in office right now. He is as useless as a witches tit. I would like to vote NDP, and judging from the lack of any news about the Liberal candidate I may well get to vote my preference.

 

[bluealberta]

If our economy is the "gem" of the G8

Report in the Calgary Sun Comment section today: Spain has now jumped ahead of us into eighth spot, and they are lobbying to take our place in the G8, as being ninth, we don't qualify anymore. Another blot on the record of the Liberals. Some gem, some government.

Five, tell me ONE thing that Belinda delinda has done in her new position? Other than agree with Harper that there should be fixed election dates! :wink:

 

[the caracal kid]

Re: RE: Three weeks left: Will you change your mind

my leanings will sway up until election day since i am acting to prevent tyrany from coming to ottawa.

welcome to 2006, in 3 weeks we will see if canadians decide to anoint 2006 "the year of the jackass". i certianly hope not.

Only if we reelect the corruption of the Liberals. Tyranny is already in Ottawa, concentrated in the PM's office of Pauly Martino and Liberanos.

as simple as it can be put is: Martin Bad; Harper Worse.

 

[Roy]

All the stuff you claim as the root cause for the "good" under the libs is because of Mulroney. Harper would undo the Mulroney good, undo the liberal good, and leave the country in poor shape.

actually its is quite clear that Harper and his party are in support of NAFTA and freetrade in general....I belive it is the NDP that would like to hack up NAFTA.

just what is Harper going to undo and how is he going to leave it is poor shape?....please dont give me anything too absurd my ribs hurt from last night, so i want to minimize the laughter. :wink:

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Three weeks left: Will you change your mind

my leanings will sway up until election day since i am acting to prevent tyrany from coming to ottawa.

welcome to 2006, in 3 weeks we will see if canadians decide to anoint 2006 "the year of the jackass". i certianly hope not.

Only if we reelect the corruption of the Liberals. Tyranny is already in Ottawa, concentrated in the PM's office of Pauly Martino and Liberanos.

as simple as it can be put is: Martin Bad; Harper Worse.

How? Without facts to back it up, your words mean nothing. What part of the CPC platform to date is bad? Cutting taxes? Yeah, thats bad, all right. Giving choices to parents for daycare? Yup, gotta hate freedom of choice. Beefing up the military? Well, hell, the left wants nothing to do with the US, so we better do something for our protection. Improving relations with our largest and most important trading partner? Yeah, that would be a bad thing, given they can survive without us, but we would have much problem surviving without them.

Under the last 12 years of liberal rule:

-increased medical waiting times
-millions stolen by the Liberal government in a money laundering scheme.
-HRDC $2billion boondoggle
-$46billion, EI surplus (taken from workers and employers alike)
-investigation by RCMP (most recent) for insider trading
-$500million cost to cancel helicopters
-Subs that don't sub
-Helicopters that don't fly
-Sending soldiers to deserts in jungle fatigues (yeah, thats not embarrassing, is it)

And on and on. I've given you some of the many reasons why, IMO, the Liberals are worse than the CPC, none of which is open to argument as they are all facts. All the opponents of the CPC have are vague allegations and falsehoods.

 

[Roy]

Moreover, in my honest opinion, I believe that she has served our country far better as the Hon. Minister of Human Resources and Democratic Renewal than she ever had as a member of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition.

:laughing3: hahaha, plz I told you guys not to make me laugh :lol: , yea really what has this rich little brat name Belinda done that you speak so highly of. Actually most Canadians are disgusted that MPs who are voted for in a democracy are able to switch sides when offerend sweet cabinet positions....what about the people who voted for the CPC in that riding, why has thier voice been muted?

 

[the caracal kid]

his tax cuts won't work.

his military plan won't work.

he won't appease separatism (heck, he will drive it along faster)

his crime plans won't work.

As for free trade, he is all for free exploitation of canada by the US. that is not free trade. Mulroney was a good negotiator, harper is not.

 

[FiveParadox]

Five, tell me ONE thing that Belinda delinda has done in her new position? Other than agree with Harper that there should be fixed election dates! :wink:

Well, bluealberta:

On October 3, the Honourable Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development and the Minister responsible for Democratic Renewal, Belinda Stronach of the Liberal Government of Canada, announced arguably one of the best appointments made this year, where André Piché accepted an appointment to become the Commissioner for Employers. He has years of experience in the employment insurance field, and has served as a senior analyst for the Privy Council's Office.

Furthermore, under the leadership of Ms. Stronach, the Ministry of Human Resources and Skills Development has granted the Canadian Employment Insurance Commission (of which M. Piché is now a Commissioner) the authority to consult Canadians regarding employment insurance premiums, and the legislative authority to change the premiums from this year and on.

Additionally, Ms. Stronach announced that the Government of Canada, through her Ministry, would be providing funding to Alberta, more than $5.5 million, to establish and strengthen eighteen programs to give students and young people the ability to more easily transition between school and the workplace, or to return to school.

Furthermore, in order to aid the Government of Québec in its obligation to meet benefit requirements for its citizens, Ms. Stronach and her Ministry reduced the EI premiums throughout Québec in order to allow the Québecois Government to increase its own premiums, for the purpose of fulfilling those benefits.

Um, okay ... so that may be more than one, lol.

 

[Breakthrough2006]

Time for change.

Conservatives have my vote.

I hope the NDP loses its party status as all their supporters cast ballots for the Liberals. All this Liberal corruption and the NDP will go from 19 seats to 9.

It's only a matter of time before the NDP places 5th in seats next to the Conservatives, Liberals, Bloc and soon to be Green party.