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mapleleafgirl

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Big crowds are gone, but dozens of believers continue to come
By SUNITA VIJAYAN
The Salinas Californian
SOLEDAD - While the initial public frenzy has simmered down, more than two dozen people visited the Soledad tree Sunday that some say displays an image of the Virgin Mary on its trunk.
Under a lone street light on Ticino Street, the 30-year-old sycamore tree stood surrounded by hundreds of flickering religious candles, bouquets of flowers and pots of poinsettias.
Hanging from a branch were more than a dozen rosaries and more flowers.
David Perez of Salinas, who visited the tree Sunday, said he and his family decided to take their second look at it out of curiosity.
They could clearly see an image of the Virgin Mary shrouded by a veil, Perez said, and being able to observe the image firsthand brought on a feeling of contentment and security for his family.
"We feel we're protected by her," he said.
In early December, 14-year-old Deanna Jimenez, a freshman at Soledad High School, told her family a combination of light and shadow on the tree trunk appeared to create an image of Mary cradling the infant Jesus in her arms.
Irregularities in the bark give contour to what some see as the Virgin's arm and bowed head.
On Sunday, the Jimenez family said they preferred not to speak to a reporter because of the overwhelming attention they've received since word spread of the image and Deanna's role in spotting it.
The small but steady stream of quiet visitors to the tree hasn't inconvenienced Soledad authorities, police said.
While scores of people have visited the tree since the discovery was made, neighbors have reported no problems, said Soledad police Lt. Jaime Fernandez. Officers have removed barricades previously set up to block both ends of Ticino Street, Fernandez said.
The yards of a couple of nearby homes, however, are cordoned off to keep people from entering.
In December, Roman Catholic Church officials cautioned the public to refrain from calling the site a "miracle" but decided to hold off on an official investigation into the phenomenon.
Because Mary sightings are rare, a spokesman for the Diocese of Monterey said, they are dealt with on a case-by-case basis and the image must stand the test of time.
Kevin Drabinski, the spokesman, said last week that diocesan officials haven't given much attention to the image on the Soledad tree because of the organization's preoccupation with installing a new bishop.
"We continue to wait and plan to give the event more time," Drabinski said.
Maria Avalos of King City, who visited the site Sunday with her family, said their friends had informed them of the "miracle" and they came "to see if it was true."
Because of their Catholic background and faith, Avalos said, they sincerely believe the image is authentic.
"We think she's going to stay here," she said.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Sorry to burst the bubble. Actually it's a common perceptual error called pareidolia, and has nothing to do with reality. Besides, nobody has any idea what Mary looked like; people are perceiving an image that's common in old European paintings, which was probably cribbed from much older Egyptian images of Isis and Horus, but that's another story.

http://www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html
 

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if u looked at enough trees you'd see anything u care to name. they're pretty random things, like clouds, and images are always easy to see.

i personally saw a tree with the image of Brian Blessed on it
 

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The provincial park I worked in has a tree and the trunk looked an awful lot like a vagina, really uncanny.
 

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trees often have vaginas on them. Ive noticed that. a previously broken branch gets covered with growing bark and the resulting shape can often be very reminiscent. Possibly this is why you often see a man sitting under a tree with a distracted look on his face
 

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Well, whether it's Mary or not, nature holding images that are symbolic to you is a wonderful thing.

people from almost all cultures, all genders, all religions, have worshipped or been inspired by images they perceive in nature. many feminists adore the tree bark formations that look like vaginas that were mentioned by someone earlier. Rock formations and tree burls resembling penises have been viewed by the men of many cultures a blessing of virility.

I personally live at the base of a peculiar formation on the valley that the locals call 'indian head'. Standing in my front yard, looking up at this particular hill, which is seperated from the rest of the valley walls by two creek ravines, you can see the profile of a native cheif, lying on his back, staring up at the sky. There is even a copse of trees on the bare hill side, nestled into the spot where the profile of his cheek bone joins his the profile of his brow. The trees make an eye. From further down the valley, you can even see how the ravine that forms his neck, meets a series of bumpy hills that form the silhouette of his hands resting on his chest. It is so clear. it's hard to not view it in awe. No matter what you read into it.
 

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No splinters involved, unless your so inclinded. I just thought from that inverted point of view you would just see more vaginas.

P.S. Not nessessarily Mary's vagina, unless that's what you wanted to see.
 
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trees often have vaginas on them. Ive noticed that. a previously broken branch gets covered with growing bark and the resulting shape can often be very reminiscent. Possibly this is why you often see a man sitting under a tree with a distracted look on his face

This apparently is the reason why several men live inside trees in Stanley Park in Vancouver.
 

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Well, whether it's Mary or not...
It's not.
...nature holding images that are symbolic to you is a wonderful thing.
What's wonderful about it? Curious and interesting, certainly, but wonderful's not a word I'd apply to them.

They're not images, they're illusions, with a perfectly reasonable explanation that I find a good deal more interesting--because of what it says about human wishes and perceptions--than thinking they might be Mary, or assorted body parts, or whatever. Nature's quite impressive enough on its own terms, it's not improved by investing it with magic. In fact I think that just blinds people to reality. Real nature is far more complex and interesting than anything any magical thinker ever dreamed up.
 

karrie

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It's not.
What's wonderful about it? Curious and interesting, certainly, but wonderful's not a word I'd apply to them.

They're not images, they're illusions, with a perfectly reasonable explanation that I find a good deal more interesting--because of what it says about human wishes and perceptions--than thinking they might be Mary, or assorted body parts, or whatever. Nature's quite impressive enough on its own terms, it's not improved by investing it with magic. In fact I think that just blinds people to reality. Real nature is far more complex and interesting than anything any magical thinker ever dreamed up.


I think what it is, is that it helps connect their faith to the earth. religion is typically so heaven based, dealing with spirits and souls etc.... that to see a reflection of it in nature helps ground them, makes them feel that earthly connection western religion tends to ignore a bit. Not everyone's connections to spirituality or the earth work in the same way. To me.. yes, images in nature that reflect humanity are wonderful. Do I think they're a divine message, or intentional in anyway? no. But, they are a nice reminder that we were born of earth, and can't ignore it.
 

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I LOVE tree! But mushrooms are my favorites. I went on a spirit quest back in Lammas I spent 5 days in the woods alone. You tend to find out who you truely are during one and what you believe. Its a one on one with your higher power. Heres a few pics. Isnt it amazing? I get teary just looking at the pictures. Its so beautiful and (to me) magical.







http://ourgallery.ourcorner.us/Lammas/07300016.JPG
 

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Lovely pictures, Tam. I'd like to see your photo albums some day. That your campfire ring on the left of the last picture? I think I know something of what you mean by magical, it's what karrie was talking about, our connections with the earth and all the life on it that we all need to be aware of. I am indeed a rationalist, as you know, but I'm not without feeling.
 

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Lovely pictures, Tam. I'd like to see your photo albums some day. That your campfire ring on the left of the last picture? I think I know something of what you mean by magical, it's what karrie was talking about, our connections with the earth and all the life on it that we all need to be aware of. I am indeed a rationalist, as you know, but I'm not without feeling.

Id love to share my pics with you I hope you have a weekend to look at them all LOL I Love taking pictures. And we ALL have magic in us my friend :) You have more than you know. But I see it :) Karrie has that spark too ;)