There is no military solution to terrorism.

Reverend Blair

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It was better than supporting Iran at that moment in time...they thought.

Of course Iran had a democratically elected government that the US overthrew to get Exxon a better oil contract. They installed and supported the Shaw. You guys like history so much, but you ignore the inconvenient parts.

Yup, I'm anti-UN, I lost faith when I see resolutions don't mean anything. And I also lost faith when they appoint a dictator in charge of Human Rights.

And the fact that your government is opposing reforms designed to deal with those issues is completely lost on you, isn't it?

Yes I noticed, we were busy fighting your commie friends.

:roll:

Yeah, it's called cold war relics. You know, when your friends tried to take over the world back then. Have to admit, they did a good job.

Again.... :roll:
 

Jay

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Some of us aren't yet convinced that communism just up and walked off the planet one day....
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: There is no military

Kofi has been pushing for reforms since before he was Secretary General. He has been blocked...mostly by the US, but also by other permanent members of the Security Council.

You should do your homework, ITN.
 

annabattler

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RE: There is no military

Terrorism continues because it works.
Just look at the scrambled effect the bombings yesterday,in London,had on major world cities.Americans (still in an anxious state because of 9/11)getting more nervous...their government making "reassuring" noises about increased vigilance.
Terrorism is barbaric....but so are some of the actions of leaders of the world's most powerful and influential nations.
I don't profess to know the answer.It's a complex issue.
 

I think not

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Re: RE: There is no military

Reverend Blair said:
Kofi has been pushing for reforms since before he was Secretary General. He has been blocked...mostly by the US, but also by other permanent members of the Security Council.

You should do your homework, ITN.

Well the permanent members of the security council seem to agree he's useless. Fire him. Thats reform.
 

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I think not said:
Reverend Blair said:
And the fact that your government is opposing reforms designed to deal with those issues is completely lost on you, isn't it?

If Kofi was doing his job the UN wouldn't need reforms.

If the US ever paid their UN dues, or actually helped in places like Rwanda, maybe someone would take the US criticism of the UN seriously.
 

Jay

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Hey lets take that money and spend it on the poor....rather than give it to the UN and its bureaucracy.
 

I think not

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TenPenny said:
I think not said:
Reverend Blair said:
And the fact that your government is opposing reforms designed to deal with those issues is completely lost on you, isn't it?

If Kofi was doing his job the UN wouldn't need reforms.

If the US ever paid their UN dues, or actually helped in places like Rwanda, maybe someone would take the US criticism of the UN seriously.

Yup, Kofi can't even hire good bill collectors. All he can do is appoint dictators to chair Human Rights.
 

Reverend Blair

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Well the permanent members of the security council seem to agree he's useless. Fire him. Thats reform.
Hey lets take that money and spend it on the poor....rather than give it to the UN and its bureaucracy.
Yup, Kofi can't even hire good bill collectors. All he can do is appoint dictators to chair Human Rights.

Jesus Christ, to take the name of your lord in vain, do you guys know anything about the UN?

Annan has the support of everybody except the US. That has been made clear time and again.

The UN does more to distribute aid, fight disease, and to promote democracy than anybody else. If you knew anything about them, you would know that.

If you'd bothered looking into Annan's proposed reforms, you'd know that they address everything you've brought up. I'll bet not one of you has read the report that includes those reforms though, even though it is available for free on the UN site.

The SG doesn't appoint the Human Rights Commission, the General Assembly does. When the General Assembly gets pissed off at the Security Council, or specific members (read the USA) of the Security Council, they send messages by doing things like putting Libya in at the top of the Human Rights Commission. It's not a good system...pretty much self defeating...but the unequal power given to five members of the Security Council leaves the General Assembly few ways of gaining any attention, so they do it.

Annan's proposed reform for the Human Rights would prohibit human rights abusers from sitting on that commission. Bush is opposing that specific reform because recent US actions would very likely prohibit it from sitting on the Human Rights Commission.

Here's an idea. Type un.org into your little windows and hit the go button. Do some research. Learn the facts instead of regurgitating inaccurate spin and outright lies. It will keep you from looking like idiots.
 

Jay

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I couldn't give two little rabbit shits about the UN...I live in Canada and I see the UN (as you already know) as a step towards a world government. Every dollar that is eaten by it, is a dollar that could go to feed the poor.