The ten Commandments
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I suppose I can't...but you can tell me.
I think I see what you mean, and sure I'm interested.
I think for now though I'm going to retire and read in bed....I will read your posting tomorrow.
What revisionist text did you pull that from? So you have faith in nothing? Nothing at all? Not even in yourself?
oh sheesh sanctus, why are you so testy? :lol:
I challenge you to look at the "the church" and you deflect and set up straw men.
Tell you what, jay said he was interested in discussing my approach. How about you join in? For all your testiness, you will find that my framework does NOT rule out the existance of your god (it accomodates the existance, but does not rely on it).
I challenge you to look at the "the church" and you deflect and set up straw men.
Tell you what, jay said he was interested in discussing my approach. How about you join in? For all your testiness, you will find that my framework does NOT rule out the existance of your god (it accomodates the existance, but does not rely on it).
Not testy at all. Clearly I have looked at the Church, or I would not have followed the vocation I was called into. In fact, I would not be a member of the Church if I had not clearly looked at it, and the faith, a long time ago. do you think you invented your points? That they are exclusive to you alone and have never been considered by anyone before? So yes, I have "looked at the Church".
let me ask you, sanctus,
were you a catholic before you decided to become a priest? This may seem like a strange question, as if a buddhist would one day decide to become a catholic priest, but it is relevent to an understanding of habit. You like the term revisionist. Do not forget the greatest revisionists are those that "won the wars".
were you a catholic before you decided to become a priest? This may seem like a strange question, as if a buddhist would one day decide to become a catholic priest, but it is relevent to an understanding of habit. You like the term revisionist. Do not forget the greatest revisionists are those that "won the wars".
First off, I didn't "decide" to become a priest. But you won't accept the vocation and its ramifications on a man. Secondly, yes of course I was.
on the contrary, I accept your belief in "the calling". My explanation may be different, but perspective along with our past, is the key.
Perspective is what I wanted to address. Growing up "within the framework of the RC tradition" will of course left you in an entirely different position than someone not growing up in that framework. We are a product of our past. It would be more natural to see the RC teachings as natural and congruent, than a non-christian.
We have different perspectives because of our different pasts. That does not mean we can not understand each other, even if we don't agree. So don't think I was trying to challenge your "faith". We each must walk our own paths.
Perspective is what I wanted to address. Growing up "within the framework of the RC tradition" will of course left you in an entirely different position than someone not growing up in that framework. We are a product of our past. It would be more natural to see the RC teachings as natural and congruent, than a non-christian.
We have different perspectives because of our different pasts. That does not mean we can not understand each other, even if we don't agree. So don't think I was trying to challenge your "faith". We each must walk our own paths.
I don't think for a moment you were trying to challenge my faith. I am only saying I am not in the least interested in debating Church doctrine or history. It is not personal, believe me. It is, in my opinion, an intellectual exercise that begins on false assumptions and leads nowhere. In truth, such discourses neither prove nor disprove anything, for we are left always with, you either accept it as true or you don't. Period. In this case, I do.
It's interesting how threads on these types of forums go, at least to me. In re-reading the posts for this thread, one can find barely a mention of the 10 Commandments. I am not saying this is a bad thing, just that it is interesting to me that a post on one topic invites a slew of posts on another sometimes un-releated topic. You might say the posts discussing the Church within this thread are like that. Although they are interesting and involved strong feelings on both sides, again I find they had nothing at all to do with any of the Ten Commandments. I am wondering, to those that are participating in this thread, what do you think of the 10 Commandments? Are there any you find objectionable, or are they a blueprint for a sane society? Or are they just a historical document with no meaning in our modern world?