The Seven Beatitudes of Marriage

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Actually, Jesus saved the lives of the mob because they were under the jurisdiction of governor Pilate and Roman law which would have required a fair trial in order to execute the laws of the land. Had those people killed her without a trial, the Roman authorities would have prosecuted them perhaps even calling for capital punishment.

1- This indicates the high moral of Jesus Christ.
2- It indicates that generation was adulterer.
3- It means: the one who excuses the penalty; he himself should be above having done such indecency; so that if he himself has done such fornication, how will he be justified to apply the penalty on the adulteress.

The same meaning is in the Glorious Quran:
Quran 61: 2-3, which mean:
{2. O you who believe, why do you say that which you do not do?

3. Very hateful is it to God that you say what you do not do.}

In addition, God - be glorified - said in the Quran 2: 44, which means:
{Will you bid other [men] to give charity, and forget yourselves [so that you yourselves don't give charity]
while you recite the Book [: the Torah, in which God recommended people to give charity and aid the poor]?
Won't you understand [and abandon such bad behavior]?
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When God created man and so on, we again return to the writings of a
two thousand year old book like selfsame climbs aboard the pages of
ancient text to direct us to the way of living.

If the book is 2000 or more or less; this does not mean anything in case the book includes the true facts and wisdom.
Moreover, the interpretation of the Quran is a recent revelation for guiding mankind to glorify their Lord: God Almighty alone without associate or son or parents, and to work for the coming Next Life in which man will live millions of years.
In addition, they should apply justice and be kind to each other.

Did God create man and
woman and if he did we have a lot of flaws.

God's creation is perfect, according to His plan of creation; i.e. He wanted to create the giraffe with a long high neck and to create man walking on two feet.


If JC or anyone else came back today
they would likely have an entirely different message to address the real
problems of today. Oh if that were to happen we'd label them a Liberal
or a Conservative and disregard the message.
I live life by breathing in the air not reading ancient texts.

If JC or anyone else comes, he will not come to be liberal or conservative, but to teach man about the monotheism and the devotion should be consecrated to God alone without patron or peer with God, and to believe in the Next Life and to be upright and just among people.

This is called the complex or the pretext of the 'ancient': Know then that the Quran confirms the heavenly books that were before Jesus and before Moses: the scripture of Abraham which was included in the Book of Genesis.

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The traditional Jewish wedding ceremony incorporates seven beatitudes:

Likewise, the message of Revelation includes seven blessings, one referencing the wedding supper of the Lamb:


'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!' (19:9 NIV)

If there is no marriage at the resurrection (Matt 22, Mark 12, Luke 20), what is the meaning of the pervasive marriage imagery inherent in Scripture?


What is the purpose from religion?
Is it to glorify the lamb or to glorify the Lord of the heavens and the earth?
Is it to devote man's life to Jesus or any other created being, or to devote man's life to the Creator?
Is it to magnify God Who sent the messenger or to glorify the Master who sent his slave?
Lastly, does God send His messenger that the messenger himself be worshiped or that God the Eternal should be worshiped?
 

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1- This indicates the high moral of Jesus Christ.
2- It indicates that generation was adulterer.
3- It means: the one who excuses the penalty; he himself should be above having done such indecency; so that if he himself has done such fornication, how will he be justified to apply the penalty on the adulteress.

The same meaning is in the Glorious Quran:
Quran 61: 2-3, which mean:
{2. O you who believe, why do you say that which you do not do?

3. Very hateful is it to God that you say what you do not do.}

In addition, God - be glorified - said in the Quran 2: 44, which means:
{Will you bid other [men] to give charity, and forget yourselves [so that you yourselves don't give charity]
while you recite the Book [: the Torah, in which God recommended people to give charity and aid the poor]?
Won't you understand [and abandon such bad behavior]?
}

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If the book is 2000 or more or less; this does not mean anything in case the book includes the true facts and wisdom.
Moreover, the interpretation of the Quran is a recent revelation for guiding mankind to glorify their Lord: God Almighty alone without associate or son or parents, and to work for the coming Next Life in which man will live millions of years.
In addition, they should apply justice and be kind to each other.



God's creation is perfect, according to His plan of creation; i.e. He wanted to create the giraffe with a long high neck and to create man walking on two feet.




If JC or anyone else comes, he will not come to be liberal or conservative, but to teach man about the monotheism and the devotion should be consecrated to God alone without patron or peer with God, and to believe in the Next Life and to be upright and just among people.

This is called the complex or the pretext of the 'ancient': Know then that the Quran confirms the heavenly books that were before Jesus and before Moses: the scripture of Abraham which was included in the Book of Genesis.

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What is the purpose from religion?
Is it to glorify the lamb or to glorify the Lord of the heavens and the earth?
Is it to devote man's life to Jesus or any other created being, or to devote man's life to the Creator?
Is it to magnify God Who sent the messenger or to glorify the Master who sent his slave?
Lastly, does God send His messenger that the messenger himself be worshiped or that God the Eternal should be worshiped?
The purpose of religion is to follow the definition of the word which in Latin is ' religare" which means to " bind up " Or tie back. It was made to control people psychologically with guilt and fear as you like to do selfslime.
 

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Actually, Jesus saved the lives of the mob because they were under the jurisdiction of governor Pilate and Roman law which would have required a fair trial in order to execute the laws of the land. Had those people killed her without a trial, the Roman authorities would have prosecuted them perhaps even calling for capital punishment.
John the Baptist and Stephen were both killed by Jews yet the ones that killed them faced no charges.
 

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The purpose of religion is to follow the definition of the word which in Latin is ' religare" which means to " bind up " Or tie back. It was made to control people psychologically with guilt and fear as you like to do selfslime.

You only take the external meaning of the word.
Similarly, the word دين in Arabic is the obedience and the requital in the same manner.
As you judge others, as such you will be judged. And in the same measure with which you measure to people, you will be given your measure.
While your saying "It was made to control people psychologically with guilt and fear" .. this is only your assertion and the assertion of atheists.
But to know your guilt is better than ignoring it, and to fear God is the wisdom in fact.
Moreover, the tyrants used the religion to control the masses: it is the false religion of the idolatry and the enthusiasm.
 

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Think spiritual union, MHz.
Love is a spiritualistic entity, you building a house so the ones you love survive the storms is a materialistic task that would not be a step taken if spirituality was the whole deal. With God and the Holy Spirit it is God who speaks and the Holy Spirit that manifests the words into reality. Ge:1 is the best example but you can find that throughout the Bible. Proverbs:8 starts out with the term 'wisdom' and that is a 'spiritual thing' and later in the chapter Christ gives His version of the Ge:1 and a prophecy about Him being a Judge at some point. That point is still in our future as all parts of the iron/clay have yet to begin to unfold.

Give me the spiritual parts of the vision and explanation in DA:2, Da:7 and Re:17. The two flaming swords that stand over the garden could be a reference to wind and heat is something I could go along with as they would have been there instead of moisture in the Ge:2 version of the creation of the garden.

You only take the external meaning of the word.
Similarly, the word دين in Arabic is the obedience and the requital in the same manner.
As you judge others, as such you will be judged. And in the same measure with which you measure to people, you will be given your measure.
While your saying "It was made to control people psychologically with guilt and fear" .. this is only your assertion and the assertion of atheists.
But to know your guilt is better than ignoring it, and to fear God is the wisdom in fact.
Moreover, the tyrants used the religion to control the masses: it is the false religion of the idolatry and the enthusiasm.
The Bible promotes that a Christian treats a stranger as if he was a friend, if a fellow Christian turns to sin then he is supposed to be 'avoided' by the rest of the Congregation.

1Co:5:11-13:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without?
do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth.
Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

The relationships in the 7 letters is an expansionon how a person can sin against God (1st law) rather than against another person (2nd Law)

Jas:2:15-17:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.
 

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Of course God had revealed the Torah and the Gospel, then He revealed the Quran to be a guidance and a light to mankind.
 

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You only take the external meaning of the word.
Similarly, the word دين in Arabic is the obedience and the requital in the same manner.
As you judge others, as such you will be judged. And in the same measure with which you measure to people, you will be given your measure.
While your saying "It was made to control people psychologically with guilt and fear" .. this is only your assertion and the assertion of atheists.
But to know your guilt is better than ignoring it, and to fear God is the wisdom in fact.
Moreover, the tyrants used the religion to control the masses: it is the false religion of the idolatry and the enthusiasm.
I find it to be curious that you call anyone who disagrees with you an " atheist " I'm sure the Pharisees which you remind me of, called Jesus worse than that. Here are the words that remind me of you ".you cross land and sea to make one convert, and you make them twofold more a child of hell, than you are yourself. Not only do you not enter the kingdom, but you prevent others from entering as well "That is you to a T selfslime. Your religion does not free the spirit of a human being, but rather puts the spirit of a person in bondage to fear, guilt and daily remorse for just being a human. Please don't quote Jesus as you don't have a clue of what the man taught, and believed.
 

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Of course God had revealed the Torah and the Gospel, then He revealed the Quran to be a guidance and a light to mankind.
Why is an explanation needed if it is from God? The Talmud comes with explanations and those works are not the best version of what the Scriptures mean when current knowledge is applied to them.
The Bible uses the Bible to create a stand alone book with one theme that cannot be mistaken when you allow it to teach you the 'basics' and the more advanced things, like prophecy.

You need the Torah and the Gospel before God can be viewed as a single work. The Quran is based on Jesus when He was a Prophet. When John the Baptist was put into prison that is when Jesus began to do the 'miracles' associated with His ministry. In that role he was more than a Prophet according to Gospels so there are works and teachings and prophecies that are not in the Quran. How can the Gospels be excluded as the 'final authority' when His time as 'just a Prophet' is restricted to the Gospel of John the Baptist and that is before the other Gospels 'start at the important time'. The NT has Christ acting as a fighting King and the future after that doesn't allow for any options.
 

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John the Baptist and Stephen were both killed by Jews yet the ones that killed them faced no charges.




Herod was a regional king and had the authority to kill at will - in fact his arrest of John the Baptist was lawful. As for Stephen he was also lawfully convicted by the Sanhedrin making his death perfectly legal.
 

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Love is a spiritualistic entity, you building a house so the ones you love survive the storms is a materialistic task that would not be a step taken if spirituality was the whole deal. With God and the Holy Spirit it is God who speaks and the Holy Spirit that manifests the words into reality.

In this plane of existence, MHz, love which is indeed spiritual can manifest in tangible ways. The carnality you ascribed to Christ in an earlier post simply does not exist. Think spiritual union.