the right-wing attack-dog philosophy

[mabudon]

pretty interesting article- it's short but I will only quote the opening paragraph here for smallness-of-copy/paste fans

In his new book “Conservatives Without Conscience,” John Dean describes his journey to discover why some of today’s right-wingers have drifted so far astray from many of the classic notions of conservatism – limited government, limited executive power, reduced foreign entanglements, respect for individual rights, etc. What he found is rather alarming – he concludes that among many of today’s right-wing are streaks of both authoritarianism and a personality type described as “social dominance orientation.”

The Authoritarianism of Right-Wing Radio
It mentions radio in the title, but it is pretty broad based and is almost a definitive checklist of control tactics commonly employed pretty much everywheres by the real hardline right-wingers. I am interested in seeing if anyone who objects to this can actually disprove any of it- I hope someone tries to, so as to stimulate discussion

 

[tamarin]

"Social dominance orientation": as soon as I see a term like this I know the con is on. Awkward phrasing always raises a red flag: put on your work pants, there's muck ahead!

 

[Graeme]

That is quite the biased article (obviously)

it is completely hypocritical, it's whole purpose is to demonize the right.

The article authoritatively tells people to think of the right as being authoritative.

it is simply ridiculous.

 

[Graeme]

not to mention the "godly" image it tries to make of those on the left.

Let me sum up that article for everyone:
"My morals are better than your morals."

 

[BitWhys]

"biased"

what's that?

latin for "something I disagree with"?

 

[iARTthere4iam]

On the whole I actually agree with the sentiment about the talkshow hosts. I routinely listen to both Hannity and Limbaugh (Rush has a great sense of humour that is lost on most) and find them quite rude and authoritative. I also listen to CBC and NPR (especially Amy Goodman's (sp?) democracy Now!).
I don't think either extreme has it right, more often reality is complex and an honest assesment is difficult.
Impartial news is rare, I think that it is important to get your news from multiple sources.
I would not want to paint every conservative as authoritarian, more likely those that take jobs as media personalities like to spout their beliefs and would rather not hear what others think.

 

[mabudon]

RE: the right-wing attack

Yeah, I didn't post this to insult anyone, I was most interested in the segment dealing with how the left-wing radio types can't use the same style and the reasons (well, possible explanations) behind the phenomenon.
it's just an article,tho, not like I'm tryin to start a f-ing religion or anything

 

[missile]

It's strange that the Right wingers are always totally right,no matter what logic dictates, and everybody else is [insert the usual uncomplimentary remarks and name calling here!] Loud mouthed,know it all blowhards :evil:

 

[s_lone]

I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.

For these type of people, debating is only a way to boost their big fat and ugly ego.

 

[Caleb-Dain Matton]

Re: RE: the right-wing attack-dog philosophy

I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.

see ann coulter.

 

[Logic 7]

Re: RE: the right-wing attack-dog philosophy

On the whole I actually agree with the sentiment about the talkshow hosts. I routinely listen to both Hannity and Limbaugh (Rush has a great sense of humour that is lost on most) and find them quite rude and authoritative. I also listen to CBC and NPR (especially Amy Goodman's (sp?) democracy Now!).
I don't think either extreme has it right, more often reality is complex and an honest assesment is difficult.
Impartial news is rare, I think that it is important to get your news from multiple sources.
I would not want to paint every conservative as authoritarian, more likely those that take jobs as media personalities like to spout their beliefs and would rather not hear what others think.

I don't know much about rush, but hannity and oreilly are quite hard to beat, the way you describes hannity is really soft from you, from my point of view, there is no word to describes their behavior, they insulted the americans on air before the war in iraq by saying"we expect every american to shut up , and support the troops", it was kind of funny, but at the same time, you ask yourself , what push those guys to say such thing on air?

 

[Logic 7]

Re: RE: the right-wing attack-dog philosophy

I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.

see ann coulter.

There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man . :wink: there is full evidence.

 

[Caleb-Dain Matton]

Re: RE: the right-wing attack-dog philosophy

I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.

see ann coulter.

There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man . :wink: there is full evidence.

That would help explain her/his Adam's apple.

 

[jimmoyer]

All I ask is that everyone leaves Santa Claus out of
these sticky partisan discussions

 

[cortex]

Re: RE: the right-wing attack-dog philosophy

I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.

see ann coulter.

There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man . :wink: there is full evidence.

i dont think she was a man, but changed radically after her female circumsicion!

 

[gopher]

Hatemonger Michael Savage called for the extermination of 100 million Muslims but the right wingers did not bother to trouble themselves to criticize him. When it comes to hate, the right wingers always have a field day in their hatred for everyone they don't like.

 

[agentkgb]

RE: the right-wing attack

I think it's the same basic idea as neoconservatism.

 

[athabaska]

Re: RE: the right-wing attack-dog philosophy

I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.

For these type of people, debating is only a way to boost their big fat and ugly ego.

Good point. Most western democracies have pluralistic societies in which the left and right, conservative and liberal, social democrat and free enterprise, etc. aren't all that far apart in philosophy. More of variations within a range of thinking. Populations usually split at no more than 60-40 or 55-45 splits in elections.

"Do you want vanilla or chocolate ice cream?"

"Chocolate, please"

"Chocolate! don't you know Hitler liked chocolate ice cream!"

 

[agentkgb]

RE: the right-wing attack

This is kind of random but relates to athabaska's post. A bunch of politicians call themselves members of one party or the other but vote with the other party most of the time when they're in office.

 

[BitWhys]

Re: RE: the right-wing attack

This is kind of random but relates to athabaska's post. A bunch of politicians call themselves members of one party or the other but vote with the other party most of the time when they're in office.

Tide? OR Ivory Snow? - Arundhati Roy