The Real Doug Ford Revealed

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The Real Kathleen Wynne


I didn't actually post this.
It was all a set up by Rogue Elements in the Indian Government.
 

mentalfloss

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Conservatives can't handle being wrong, so they have to resort to insults.

It's a shame because they have the capacity to be intelligent.
 

White_Unifier

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Liberals launch 'Real Doug Ford' ad campaign ahead of election

Ontario's Liberals are launching their first campaign ad ahead of the spring election, saying it aims to reveal the "real Doug Ford."

The ad, which will air online, on television and radio starting Monday, says the Progressive Conservative leader would lower corporate taxes while rolling back minimum wage and cutting 40,000 public sector jobs.

Lower corporate taxes: Good idea on the condition that it not result in growing public debt. If he were smart, he'd present it as an ideal to aim for in the future rather than as a hard promise.

Rolling back the minimum wage: If he means a mandatory minimum wage, good idea. There is no point in having the dog chase its tail for no reason. As for a recommended minimum wage, I think a high recommended minimum wage below which a person could quit his job and go on social assistance could be a good idea. However, how many people would turn down a job at just below the recommended minimum wage to go on social assistance unless they're very mathematically challenged?

Cutting 40,000 public-sector jobs. A good idea in principle, as long as it's done in a competent manner. Perhaps he could flesh out in more detail how precisely he intends to do it.

Senior campaign officials say they want to highlight how a Ford government would affect Ontario residents rather than simply focusing on his personality — though future ads will feature controversial statements the Tory leader has made in the past.

Why focus so much on Doug Ford? Is he the new Liberal leader? Do the Liberals have nothing to say about Wynne? Are the Liberals proposing that we vote for Wynne just because Ford is worse? Is that all the Liberals have to offer?

Liberal campaign co-chair Deb Matthews says the party's research has shown many voters don't know much about Ford, a newcomer to provincial politics.

She says the former Toronto city councillor has made a point to avoid scrutiny and has publicly said little about his plans for the province.

Ford's campaign has not committed to releasing a fully costed platform ahead of the June 7 vote, as he had initially promised, saying only that he would present his policy priorities.

Liberals launch 'Real Doug Ford' ad campaign ahead of election | CBC News

OK, the Liberals have a point on that last point. The solution though is not on showing how poorly thought out Ford's plan is but rather on showing how well thought out the Liberal plan is. Let Ford present his own plan. If the Liberals present a well-costed plan showing how it will affect the province, then would that no pressure Ford to present his own? The reason Ford can get away with being so mediocre is simply because he has little competition. So it's up to the Liberals to stand up and give him some competition.

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Hmmm... Firstly, that video didn't teach me one damn thing about the Liberal party.

Secondly, basic English is not the video-producer's strong point. It says that he would fire 40,000 provincial workers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't believe he ever specified where, so the video is speculating on where he would cut. Also, there is a difference between firing a worker and laying him off. When we cut jobs, it usually involves layoffs, not firings. We fire someone for not doing a good job but with the intention of replacing that person. Doug ford does not intend to replace anyone in those positions, so the video is misleading. He doesn't intend to fire them but to lay them off, meaning that he won'd be replacing them. It says that it would take away a woman's right to choose. No, he talked about requiring parental consent for a young girl to get an abortion. A young girl is not a woman any more than a young boy is a man.


So now my question is, how do the Liberals intend to improve Ontario's functional literacy rate so that people understand the difference between a woman and a girl and between firing and laying off?
 

White_Unifier

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You don't want to interfere with the free market.

What do you mean? A totally free market is little better than a totally communist one. We need a corporatist economy that is mostly free market with with rational government intervention. Investing heavily in universal compulsory education is a wise public investment.

Heavy investment in trades and professional education for the unemployed, the under-employed, and the underpaid is a wise public investment too. Investment in group therapy for addicts is a wise public investment too.

This doesn't mean the government has to be heavy-handed about it. It can introduce school or education vouchers for example within reasonable rules for participating schools.

If Wynne wanted to win votes, she could point out the benefits of a gas tax. But remember, one good policy position does not compensate for a bad policy package any more than one wrong policy position ruins the whole package. Even if I agree with Wynne on some points, i disagree with her on very many points.
 

mentalfloss

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You just have selective reading syndrome.


Doug says a group home for autistic children "ruined the community"

If your child has a special education need, beware of Doug because he thinks children with autism “ruined the community” near his home in Etobicoke.

Doug said, “my heart goes out to kids with autism. But no one told me they’d be leaving the house.” Source: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...or_disappointed_by_doug_fords_opposition.html)

In response to a home for autistic children being built near his home, Doug said that it “ruined the community.”

Another time he accused the father of autistic child of being part of a ‘jihad’. Source: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/07/05/doug_fords_jihad_comments_spark_muslim_backlash.html

https://realdougford.ca/issue/doug-on-autism/
 

White_Unifier

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The Dyke-bitch called Ford, Trump.

We should be so lucky.

All Wynne can do is attack Ford because she has nothing of her own to offer. You have nothing of your own to offer either, so you can just insult her. You seem quite similar, you and she.
 

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To sort of partially quote Prime Minister Elizabeth May of Britain ...... "It Is Highly Likely" ..... that Doug Ford is an Economic Terrorist.
 

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I would rather see Wynne attack Doug Ford rather than to see Doug Ford attacking our social programs.

I see that Moody's is downgrading Ontario's credit rating. These are the same agencies who all said that the North American economy was just fine and that the banks and financial houses were doin' just great in 2007 before the crash.

Must be that the Capitalists don't want the NDP to cover daycare and are already setting up the rules and upcoming advertising billboards attacking the "Socialists" again like they did with Bob Rae.
 

Curious Cdn

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Actually it was Bob Rae who negotiated (?) the contract first.

No, the NDP built it as a toll road owned by the Crown. They were broke and it was a means of financing it. The tolls would be lifted by now, probably as it would be paid off soon or by now. The Conservative government sold it off to Groupal Ferrovial of Spain for just over 3 billion dollars for some quick cash and for ideological reasons, apparently.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/cash-grab-prompted-tories-sale-of-hwy-407/article766163/
 

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To sort of partially quote Prime Minister Elizabeth May of Britain ...... "It Is Highly Likely" ..... that Doug Ford is an Economic Terrorist.
You lose all credibility if you do not even have the Nama of the person you are quoting correct .
 

White_Unifier

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I would rather see Wynne attack Doug Ford rather than to see Doug Ford attacking our social programs.

I see that Moody's is downgrading Ontario's credit rating. These are the same agencies who all said that the North American economy was just fine and that the banks and financial houses were doin' just great in 2007 before the crash.

Must be that the Capitalists don't want the NDP to cover daycare and are already setting up the rules and upcoming advertising billboards attacking the "Socialists" again like they did with Bob Rae.

If Wynne had any good ideas of her own, she wouldn't need to attack Doug Ford.