pastafarian said:
One was an extremely Islam fascist state bent on training terrorists to infuriated the west, even after we spared the country from the Soviets. The other was a Stalinist A hole, who didn't seem to care for his people, or his neighbors. He over threw the former government and threatened the security of the area and the balance of power in the area
Both of these conditions were the result of US foreign policy and CIA shenanigans. If the US hadn't been arming and training the Muslim extremists --who wanted to take Afghanistan from the Marxist People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan, which despite ties to the USSR had instituted a series of progressive decrees, many of which were viewed by conservatives as opposing Islam, including one declaring the equality of the sexes. Land reform was decreed, as was a prohibition on usury-- the Soviets wouldn't have invaded and the Taliban would probably never have been able to gain control of the country. (Thank you Zbigniew Brzezinski).
This history of Saddam's rise to power is similarly tied to US politicking.
Now that Rev and Peapod are done poking me with a stick….
So we provoked the USSR into their own Vietnam, and now the menace is in its death throws leaving a vacuum in its wake.
Sure it was politicking, but the ends did justify the means in this case. The death of communism through the vehicle of Afghanistan was a brilliant scheme implemented, apparently, without the USSR even suspecting what we were really up to. Also, it saved Europe from USSR’s influence or worse.
Now the vacuum is trying to filled by Islamofascists hell bent on the destruction of the west, its ideals and influence. This, I suppose, isn't necessarily the best of situations, but it can be quelled by destroying the immature networks and governments that support this new movement so it will not find a way to homogenize itself with more, self respecting, facets of Islam.
This conflict is not about oil per say, but about damage control over the death of Soviet communism, and controlling the resources that could fund Islam fascism into being a far greater threat to peace than it already is. AKA, the war on terror. States that want to have some of the recourses we have managed to secure are going to have to play ball in the war on terror.
China knowing this, has decided to try other avenues to get the energy it needs to grow. That's why they are lending credence to Chavez. This might secure a supply of oil and antagonize America all in one shot.
With the Soviets out of the way....