The PQ has the edge.

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That's not cast in stone, because the CAQ is making inroads. Premier Charest has only a few weeks before the election, and the electorate still seems to think he would make the best premier.

Of course, if the separatists win, they'll immediately begin talking about another referendum. But they will be in no position for quite awhile, because their victory would be slim, and the economy is still the voters' main concern. And time is not on their side, because immigrants are coming into the province, and the generation of Rene Levesque is aging, and the younger generation is less seperatists AFAIK than its predecessors.
 

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Edge or no edge, I am sitting out this election. Why should I vote? It would be paramount to digging my own grave. The PQ has promised to strengthen bill 101 if elected. In current form, Bill 101 is a discriminatory piece of legislation that was denounced by the United Nations. I wonder how much tougher the PQ can make it. The Liberals have hired extra language police recently, and have eliminated English service when pressing the English option for RAMQ related health services. The CAQ has stated that they will hire even more language police if elected. What a waste of money, hiring individuals for work that results in no financial benefit whatsoever and instead their work results in the hassle and discrimination of hard working folks just trying to make a living.

So as an English speaking Quebecker, if I were to vote for any party, I'll re-iterate what I said up above, it would be equivalent to digging my own grave.
 

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Of course, if the separatists win, they'll immediately begin talking about another referendum. But they will be in no position for quite awhile, because their victory would be slim, and the economy is still the voters' main concern.


I don't believe that the PQ will be wise to bang the separation drum any more; the ROC is pretty tired of hearing Que cry wolf. There's a good chance that any threats of separation will be met with hopeful silence
 

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Separatism is on the wain, and the Liberal Government, led by a one time Tory
Leadership candidate, is falling like a stone. The two things they have in common?
Nothing. Quebecers are not interested in separatism at the moment and they hate
their Government as bad as we do in BC.
Yes they will throw out the Quebec Liberals, but if they make the big move they will
open the door for the Quebec NDP. The reason I say that is at the moment those in
Quebec will vote left of center, and if that left of center goes to far they will look for an
alternative. The other center left alternative is the NDP.
The language issue being dragged up suggests to me that the PQ is not as secure as
we all might think. other wise why would they look for a lightning issue.
 

s_lone

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Separatism is on the wain, and the Liberal Government, led by a one time Tory
Leadership candidate, is falling like a stone. The two things they have in common?
Nothing. Quebecers are not interested in separatism at the moment and they hate
their Government as bad as we do in BC.
Yes they will throw out the Quebec Liberals, but if they make the big move they will
open the door for the Quebec NDP. The reason I say that is at the moment those in
Quebec will vote left of center, and if that left of center goes to far they will look for an
alternative. The other center left alternative is the NDP.
The language issue being dragged up suggests to me that the PQ is not as secure as
we all might think. other wise why would they look for a lightning issue.

Creating a provincial NDP in Quebec would be quite the task!
 

Vancouverite

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I don't believe that the PQ will be wise to bang the separation drum any more; the ROC is pretty tired of hearing Que cry wolf. There's a good chance that any threats of separation will be met with hopeful silence

Well, I've been wondering - they lost two referendums, so what makes them think they have the right to leave? I mean, if they lose two and win ONE, does that mean they have a mandate to separate? I'm not convinced. And let's not forget the constitution doesn't give them the right to secede.
 

Vancouverite

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Does it have a provision saying a province can't leave Canada?

No, but, if they want to leave, they may have to prove they have that right, because typically a party in law doesn't have to prove something doesn't exist. The US may have something to say about this. The decision of Texas v White, made after their civil war, said that the Lone Star State did NOT have the unilateral right to secede.
 

s_lone

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No, but, if they want to leave, they may have to prove they have that right, because typically a party in law doesn't have to prove something doesn't exist. The US may have something to say about this. The decision of Texas v White, made after their civil war, said that the Lone Star State did NOT have the unilateral right to secede.

As far as I know, the Clarity Act has already established under which conditions Quebec could leave.
 

Vancouverite

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The Clarity Act may not be constitutionally valid. In any case, there can be an argument to be made that, with or without that Act, Quebec cannot leave, just as Texas could not.