The power of the right side!

[Jay]

Well hurry up Jay and Jo We often use the Canadian health care system as a model, and as long as it has "issues" we can't copy you, so chop chop

Be thankful you can't copy us on this....you have enough headaches down there as it is. The screaming and yelling up here over the healthcare system is enough to make you want to ukeright:

 

[I think not]

I agree 100 percent with you gordon. And I would suspect no lefty wants women lining up for abortion. It should be the choice after all avenues have been examined, but the choice should still be there. Most fathers would not want their daughters seeking a doctor out in back alleys.

Nobody implied otherwise on this thread, peapod. Don't let your preconceptions assume things that don't exist.

 

[I think not]

Well hurry up Jay and Jo We often use the Canadian health care system as a model, and as long as it has "issues" we can't copy you, so chop chop

Be thankful you can't copy us on this....you have enough headaches down there as it is. The screaming and yelling up here over the healthcare system is enough to make you want to ukeright:

Believe me, health care is always an issue, and guess which country pops up all the time

 

[Jay]

The US has to find middle ground on this issue, but don't follow Canada's lead on it, because we haven't found middle ground yet.

In reality were more extreme about it than you guys are, but don't tell any Canadians I said that.

 

[Gordon J Torture]

There isn't any tactic involved in analyzing an issue other than just the surface. Thats just a preconception.

Oh, but there is. One can analyze the small details of an issue, and bring so much attention to them, that not only is any aspect of the main issue not progressing, but the issue is forgotten completely.. If we are to just focus on main issues, and not all the crap underneath, allot more useful discussing takes place and everything else just falls into place eventually.

What your doing is equivalent to a sprinter preparing for his race, and when the race is about to start, he starts commenting to his competition about the color of his shoelaces.

 

[I think not]

There isn't any tactic involved in analyzing an issue other than just the surface. Thats just a preconception.

Oh, but there is. One can analyze the small details of an issue, and bring so much attention to them, that not only is any aspect of the main issue not progressing, but the issue is forgotten completely.. If we are to just focus on main issues, and not all the crap underneath, allot more useful discussing takes place and everything else just falls into place eventually.

What your doing is equivalent to a sprinter preparing for his race, and when the race is about to start, he starts commenting to his competition about the color of his shoelaces.

It's not OK to look on the surface and ignore the many complexities underneath that surface. On any issue. When analyzing in depth you are not forgetting the main issue as it is the details that comprise it.

What you are doing is equivalent to an architect designing a structure without the support of a structural engineer. As such the structure will collapse.

Is it time I say, nice leftist tactic? :wink:

 

[Gordon J Torture]

No, What I am doing is building a complete foundation before I continue, whereas you are doing the roofing before there is even a roof.

And now we are both accomplishing nothing.

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: The power of the righ

I can pour the grade beam. Oh, and I'm okay at weeping tiles too.

 

[Sy]

RE: The power of the righ

Hmm nice thread, the intro was well said well adding star wars in is totally appropriate! lol

More importantly, what about a system where all involved parties take turns to implement a piece of their entire agenda? Say one month the Conservatives get to introduce something, it goes through it's process, and if legalized in the House of Commons and Senate it would be up to the public, through opinions, studies and general usage of the Conservative proposal that decides if it stays part of the country or not. Then the next month the Liberals introduce something. Then the NDP. And so on...fair or not?

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: The power of the righ

What, no construction metaphors, Sy? ;-)

Your idea sounds okay, but without actual direct democracy initiatives I'm not sure it's workable. Why not move to PR first, taking real power away from all of the parties. That would make listen to each other.

I think that's the grade beam.

 

[I think not]

Great! Now that we've covered basic construction techniques, can we all agree its worth looking into issues in depth for the purpose of analyzing all aspects and not distracting the main objective?

Or we can't even agree on that?

 

[Gordon J Torture]

Just like anything else, a foundation must first be mastered. You must learn the basics and perfect them. Regarding Mathematics, or science, etc, the problem often lies in the foundation yet we often become too distracted by a mess of confusion to notice.

 

[Sy]

I think for the most part our foundation is pretty solid. A rabble of corrupt politicians aren't enough to tear down the base that is Canada. All of our institutions are now set in stone (Such as health care, EI, pensions, education, women voting) and nothing will change these facts.

Sure none of them are perfect but there is always time to correct our mistakes. Canada was founded neither in the left, nor right but smack dab in the center and that is how the world seems to recognize us. Both sides have their qualities and it's up to us to take the best ones from all around and continue building Canada to be the best country in the world.

 

[Derry McKinney]

RE: The power of the righ

Anybody got a sill beam?

 

[Gordon J Torture]

A rabble of corrupt politicians aren't enough to tear down the base that is Canada.

HA!

All of our institutions are now set in stone (Such as health care, EI, pensions, education, women voting)

Oh yes, Health Care, that thing I supposedly owe about $800 towards that I could not afford to pay. What a perfect system.

 

[jimmoyer]

Back to the construction metaphors.

Both Astrophysicists and Carpenters agree.

There's no such thing as a straight line.

Comedians disagree, however.

Are we all square with this ?