The mystery of sunspots

[eanassir]

Still waiting for cycle 24 to get going; it's way overdue.

The sunspots cycles​

The following points are worthy of mentioning about the sunspots:
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• The sun hunts a large number of meteoritic rocks from the space, because of its tremendous gravity, more than what meteorites the earth obtains. This is in the Quranic revelation2: 24

فَاتَّقُوا النّارَ الّتِي وَقُودُها النّاسُ و الحِجارَةُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْكافِرِينَ ​

The explanation: (Then ward off the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for disbelievers.)

The Fire is called Saqar which is a sun bigger than our present sun.
Therefore (whose fuel is men and stones) means: the rocks of meteorites; because the sun pulls them to it by its gravity.
See question 8 in the subject of: Sun
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• The sun has become old, and it has reached its elderly, and will start to cool down especially starting from the time Venus stopped its axial rotation and this will last 2000 years of our calendar [or more precisely the calendar of the years when the Quran was revealed]; because the years in the future will be longer than our years, that is because the earth will slow down by time until it will stop rotating, 1000 years following the cessation of Venus from its axial rotation.

Sunspots


If we want to see what will befall our Earth in the future, we have to see the changes that have occurred on Venus [and had occurred on Mercury before], and what is there now on Venus [and Mercury]; because the same will happen to our Earth.

If their words about Venus are true, that Venus day and night are so long, and they can prove it [as do they assert and seem so certain about], then this means Venus may now be in the phase of the long nights which will precede its complete cessation from axial rotation.
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• The rocks, that the sun gravitates, will act as condensation nuclei to collect some cold material of the sun around them to form some islets which will increase by time.

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• So now they say there are cycles of the sunspots, every 11 years; then if this phenomenon is regular, and these spots are increasing in number, size and frequency of appearing; then this will indicate the ageing of the sun, and that its end has become near: after 2000 years from the stoppage of Venus; and this will be a gradual process. The sun will then transform into an earth with a thin crust.

This is in the Quranic revelation 41: 9 ​

قُلْ أَئِنَّكُمْ لَتَكْفُرُونَ بِالَّذِي خَلَقَ الأَرْضَ فِي يَوْمَيْنِ وَتَجْعَلُونَ لَهُ أَندَادًا ذَلِكَ رَبُّ الْعَالَمِينَ​

The explanation: ([O Mohammed] say [to the idolaters]: “Do you, then, disbelieve in [God] Who created the earth in two days, and do you ascribe to Him opponents? –That is the Lord of [all] the worlds!”)

The ‘two days’, mentioned here, means 2000 of our present years; and the ‘creation’ means the transformation; i.e. He transformed it into an earth after being a sun.
Sunspots

Moreover, the cessation of Venus from rotating around itself, has been a gradual process, as will our Earth do; because the Earth will slow down, and the day will be more than 24 hours, then at last there will come 10 nights: the length of each one will be 3 months, before will it stop completely, when there will not be the succession of days and nights.

And there will be a perpetual day on one side that face the sun and a lasting night on the other side, with some intermediate zones of dawn [before the sun-rise zone], afternoon and the sun-glow zone [before the sun-set zone].

This is in the Quran89: 1-5​

وَالْفَجْرِ. وَلَيَالٍ عَشْرٍ​

The explanation: (1- [I swear] by [the region of] the dawn!
2- And by the ten nights [preceding the standstill of the earth!)

This is a threatening oath with some future punishment; the ‘dawn’ is the position intermediate between the night [zone] and the day [zone], which will happen when the Earth will stop its rotation.

And the ‘ten nights’ will take place when the central heat of the earth will decrease, so that, at that time, its rotation will be very slow; so that the duration of the day will be three months, and the night will also last three months.

Then, when ten of such long nights will pass, the earth will stop from its rotation because its central heat will finish. At that time, the duration of the day will be one thousand years; and similarly the night [in the other side] will be. After that, Doomsday will take place.


eanassir
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[Lester]

Eanassir, Your a phucking idiot- there I said it, ooh that feels good

 

[Walter]

, Your a ******* idiot- there I said it, ooh that feels good.

If you're going to disparage someone's intelligence, make sure your grammar and spelling are correct lest you be charged with the same affliction.

 

[eanassir]

Eanassir, Your a phucking idiot- there I said it, ooh that feels good

Your reply reflects what you are.
Your reply is not good.

 

[Lester]

"you're"- happy Walter? as if you couldn't figure it out.

 

[Lester]

Eannassir, My Avatar is from the film "Heavy Metal"I do not think you would be allowed to watch it.It would be easy for anyone except you to find out where I'm from, look above my avatar, there is a Canadian Flag and my location. Furthermore, why don't you take your hocus pocus quran observations to the religious nut thread.

 

[eanassir]

Eannassir, My Avatar is from the film "Heavy Metal"I do not think you would be allowed to watch it.It would be easy for anyone except you to find out where I'm from, look above my avatar, there is a Canadian Flag and my location. Furthermore, why don't you take your hocus pocus quran observations to the religious nut thread.

The Quran is not hocus pocus; the hocus pocus are the atheists and their non-sense thinking:

They are misguided by following the ambiguous part of the Quran [so they mock it without understanding its meaning] and leaving the plain part; because they are evil-doers:

When God – be glorified – gave some parables of the housefly, the spider and some other animals; the idolaters mocked Mohammed and the Quran, and said this Quran is from Mohammed himself, so he mentions such insects and trivial animals, and the Quran is not from God.

Therefore, this Quranic aya 2: 26 was revealed:​

إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يَسْتَحْيِي أَن يَضْرِبَ مَثَلاً مَّا بَعُوضَةً فَمَا فَوْقَهَا فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ فَيَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ وَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَيَقُولُونَ مَاذَا أَرَادَ اللَّهُ بِهَذَا مَثَلاً يُضِلُّ بِهِ كَثِيراً وَيَهْدِي بِهِ كَثِيراً وَمَا يُضِلُّ بِهِ إِلاَّ الْفَاسِقِينَ​

The explanation:
(Surely God is not ashamed to give an example, whatsoever even of a gnat and anything superior to it.

As for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord;
but as for those who disbelieve, they say: 'What is it that God means by this as an example?

He misleads many thereby and thereby guides many; He misleads only evildoers thereby.

Those who break God's covenant after ratifying it, and sever that which God ordered to be joined, and make mischief in the earth: Such are the losers.)


The interpretation:

>> (Surely God is not ashamed to give an example) of any animal whether it is a small insect or the largest animal,

>> (whatsoever even of a gnat and anything superior to it.)

This is because when He – be glorified – gave an example with the spider; the idolaters mocked and said what is this example that God speaks about such small animals like the spider and the housefly; this Quran then is not from God, but Mohammed himself arranged it.

So this aya was revealed, which means: God does not see it shameful to speak about such animals: from the smallest insect to the largest animal; because He created them all, and you are among some of His creation, and no difference between you and such creatures concerning the creation; they are His created beings and you are His servants; because all that is His creation.

He said فَمَا فَوْقَهَا i.e. (and anything superior to it) ; He did not say: anything larger than it; because He meant not only the size, but the complexity of structures, the instinct, the power and the size.

>> (As for those who believe, they know that it) i.e. the Quran (is the truth) revealed (from their Lord)

>> (but as for those who disbelieve, they say: 'What is it that God means by this as an example?) i.e. so that He give a parable of the insects.

>> (He misleads many thereby and thereby guides many); that is because people are of two kinds: righteous and evil-doer: ​

• The righteous is the one whose manners are good and his conduct is good: truthful of words, kind of heart, generous, kind to the needy, compassionate to the poor, and is not proud over the weak.
• While the evil-doer; he is opposite that: liar, proud, oppressor, transgressor, talebearer (or slanderer) and stingy. If he has not all these attributes, then at least he has some of them.

So the righteous will follow the plain Quranic revelations and be guided with it, and leave the ambiguous to God, and they will be saved.
While the evil-doer will follow the ambiguous Quranic revelations, and leave the plain ayat of the Quran, and he will be misguided with it, and will lose.

Therefore this is the meaning of: (He misleads many thereby and thereby guides many) i.e. many of people will be misguided by following the ambiguous part of the Quran [so they mock and deny it without understanding its meaning], and many people will follow the plain ayat of the Quran and be guided with it and leave the matter of the ambiguous part to God.

>> (He misleads only evildoers thereby) i.e. only those with evil-conduct and manners.

Then He started to dispraise the evil-doer:

>> (Those who break God's covenant after ratifying it) i.e. the covenant which they covenanted God and their past prophets: to serve God alone and not to associate anyone and anything with Him, and not to murder people which God prohibited their killing, and not to commit adultery; but they broke their covenant and their promise.

>> (and sever that) kindred relation (which God ordered to be joined)

>> (and make mischief in the earth) by making seditions, and robbing people's property and transgressing on them, and by hindering people from believing in Mohammed.

>> (Such are the losers) who lost themselves and their families; and substituted the prosperity of Paradise for Hell.
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[Lester]

Fairy tales and rubbish- You just imagime these things, All religious texts speak in metaphors. With a vivid enough imagination, these ayat you speak of can be interperated to mean anything.

 

[eanassir]

Fairy tales and rubbish- You just imagime these things, All religious texts speak in metaphors. With a vivid enough imagination, these ayat you speak of can be interperated to mean anything.

This has nothing to do with fairy tales.

The ambiguous ayat gives the Quran a time extension; because when God addressed the past generations; they did not know there are other earths like Mars, Saturn and other planets; they could not imagine that the sun is more than one million times bigger than the earth, and almost they could not imagine that the earth is spherical and it circulate around the sun.

So He revealed the Quran in a way that all generations (including the future generations that will come after us); all generations will understand according to their level of thinking.

The generation of Prophet Mohammed denied the revealing of the Quran from God, while the later generation (the contemporary) may deny the interpretation, and say such interpretation is only an imagination.

This is in the Quran 10: 39​

بَلْ كَذَّبُواْ بِمَا لَمْ يُحِيطُواْ بِعِلْمِهِ وَلَمَّا يَأْتِهِمْ تَأْوِيلُهُ كَذَلِكَ كَذَّبَ الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِهِمْ فَانظُرْ كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الظَّالِمِينَ​

The explanation: (But [actually] they have cried lies to the [mysterious ayat of the Quran: the 'similitudes'], the knowledge of which they comprehend not,

and even when the interpretation thereof will come to them [at the time of the Mahdi-Paraclite, they will also cry lies.]

Even so those [unbelieving nations] that were before them cried lies [to their apostles];

then see [O Mohammed] what end was of the wrong-doers [: was it not destruction and ruining?]


Therefore, all generations denied and disbelieved:
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• The ancient generations denied their apostles and their heavenly books.

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• The generation contemporary to Prophet Mohammed denied that the Quran was revealed.

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• The present generation deny the interpretation of the Quran.

[N.B. In this aya, it is also noticed that it is the wrong-doers who will deny and disbelieve, as it was explained in the past reply.]


eanassir
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http://man-after-death.site.io
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[Lester]

quote-"So He revealed the Quran in a way that all generations (including the future generations that will come after us); all generations will understand according to their level of thinking."

How convenient, I call bull****. Like I said in the previous post, these are metaphors you speak in these can be interperated in countless ways. The quran is no more credible than the quatrains of Nostradamus.

 

[eanassir]

quote-"So He revealed the Quran in a way that all generations (including the future generations that will come after us); all generations will understand according to their level of thinking."


Like I said in the previous post, these are metaphors you speak in these can be interperated in countless ways. The quran is no more credible than the quatrains of Nostradamus.

Whatever ayat may be said to you, you are not going to discern or think about. Only you will say: metaphors, myths, fables, like the quatrains of Nostradamus, and so on.

It seems this aya (4: 82) is applicable here:​

أَفَلاَ يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللّهِ لَوَجَدُواْ فِيهِ اخْتِلاَفًا كَثِيرًا​

The explanation:
(Will they not ponder the Quran?
If it had been from [anyone] other than God they would have found therein much variation [from the ancient heavenly books, contradicting the monotheism.] )

But the Quran invites people to God alone, and not to anyone else; which is the pure and exclusive monotheism: the basis of the heavenly religion.

In case you see yourself superior to the word of God, and you understand all such fables and metaphors as you call them; then tell us:
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• What is the correlation between the "fig", the "olive", Mount Sinai and the secure city in these ayat 95: 1-3 of the Quran?
• And what is the implication of this swearing?

Of course, you will say: it is nothing, non-sense, etc.
But in fact you do not understand it, and why He said to people: fig, olive, Mount Sinai and the land secure.

This is according to Arberry's translation of the meaning of the Quran 95: 1-3​

"By the fig and the olive and the Mount Sinai and this land secure!"

http://arthurwendover.com/arthurs/koran/koran-arberry10.html


eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io
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[Lester]

What is the correlation between the "fig", the "olive", Mount Sinai and the secure city in these ayat 95: 1-3 of the Quran? Who cares?

 

[eanassir]

What is the correlation between the "fig", the "olive", Mount Sinai and the secure city in these ayat 95: 1-3 of the Quran?

Who cares?

This reply is expected; because you cannot answer any other way ... you do not know the answer, and cannot give the meaning, and you are ignorant about its implications.

Therefore, you cannot say: fairy tales, non-sense …etc.

This is in the Glorious Quran 47: 24​

أَفَلَا يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ أَمْ عَلَى قُلُوبٍ أَقْفَالُهَا​

The explanation:
(So will they not meditate on the Quran?
Or are there locks on [their] hearts?)

The interpretation:
>> (So will they not meditate on the Quran?)
It means: Will they not contemplate the words of the Quran and think about them, to realize that man cannot bring about any words similar to it with its fluency and eloquence,

and that it tells about the past, and foretells about the future (while none other than God can know the fore-future and the unknown).

In addition to its information about the universe and the [universal] events that happened in the past and that will occur in the future;

and in spite of all this: its words are in harmony; its words confirm each other and include no contradiction; had it been from any other than God, they would have found much contradiction included in it.

>> (Or are there locks on [their] hearts?)
It means: Have the words of the Quran fallen on some stone hearts of those associaters and disbelievers? Or are their hearts locked with firm locks, therefore they do not understand neither do they realize?

The answer is: No, their hearts are neither stony nor are they locked, but they do blindly follow their fathers' religion, and they, in fact, are averse to the truth.



eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io
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[Lester]

"is there locks on their heart" - just another metaphor- the quran cannot tell the future, you may beleive it does by interperating it much in the same way people interperate Nostradamus, you may have faith,but you do not have proof.

 

[eanassir]

"is there locks on their heart" - just another metaphor- the quran cannot tell the future, you may beleive it does by interperating it much in the same way people interperate Nostradamus, you may have faith,but you do not have proof.

The Quran invites people to God alone, and to abandon worshipping idols, fire, sun or moon.
Christians too do worship God, and they have the heavenly book: the Torah and the Gospel.
Therefore all Muslims, Christians and Jews believe in God the Creator and believe in the heavenly book.

When Prophet Mohammed invited people to God alone and to break up the idols, because such idols are only stones that do not understand neither do the idols perceive or hear or see; God – be glorified – started to prepare the victory for the Islam, and caused some clashes to occur between the two great contemporary empires: the Greek [: Room Byzantine] and the Persian.

The Persian overcame the Greek [: Room Byzantine] empire, and were about to defeat it completely and they besieged Constantinople.

The idolaters of Mecca mocked Prophet Mohammed, and said that the Persian, who at that time were Magians worshipping the fire; while the Roman were Christians worshipping God and had a heavenly book; therefore the idolatry is the right, and the Quran is false.

Hence, these ayat 30: 2-6 were revealed, which foretold the victory of Muslims on both the Christian empire and the Magian empire.
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غُلِبَتِ الرُّومُ . فِي أَدْنَى الْأَرْضِ وَهُم مِّن بَعْدِ غَلَبِهِمْ سَيَغْلِبُونَ . فِي بِضْعِ سِنِينَ لِلَّهِ الْأَمْرُ مِن قَبْلُ وَمِن بَعْدُ وَيَوْمَئِذٍ يَفْرَحُ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ . بِنَصْرِ اللَّهِ يَنصُرُ مَن يَشَاء وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الرَّحِيمُ . وَعْدَ اللَّهِ لَا يُخْلِفُ اللَّهُ وَعْدَهُ وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ​

The explanation: (The Greeks Room) have been overcome,

in the nearer [and lowermost land of Palestine, in the precinct of the dead sea: the lowermost area on earth];

but they [: the Muslims], even after the triumph [ of the Greek] over the [Persian], will be victorious [on both the Greek and the Persian],

within a few years;

[for] the determination [of the victory] is up to God, both before and after [the Greeks' triumph;]

on that day the believers will rejoice,

in the help of God; He helps whomsoever He pleases; [for] He is the All-Mighty, the Most Wise.

[That] is a promising from God; [for] God never breaks His promise, but most people do not know.)

Therefore, these ayat were fulfilled within few years, although at the time these Quranic ayat were revealed at Mecca, the Prophet and the believers were persecuted and were weak and little in number. And see how the Quran detailed such events and many facts in very few words, and stated in addition many other facts like the region of the dead sea is the lowest region of the earth under the sea level.


eanassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com​

 

[Lester]

Sorry, that's not proof - it's a myth, fable,fairytale- What I'm trying to say Eanassir is; In this thread leave religion out of it, you will not win many converts or have anyone take you seriously by quoting religious text.

 

[eanassir]

Sorry,
that's not proof - it's a myth, fable,fairytale-
What I'm trying to say Eanassir is; In this thread leave religion out of it,
you will not win many converts or have anyone take you seriously by quoting religious text.

Be sorry for yourself. This has no relation to "myth, fable, or fairytale"; this is a historic event known and cannot be denied.

I say to you leave the atheism out of it.

I am not begging you or anyone to convert, but only to disprove your anti-Quran claims.

All this is to answer your questions, and to demonstrate the evidence and proofs to the Glorious Quran, which will be against you; so that you cannot then say: "I don't know; I was unaware of the Quran";

and it makes no difference that you deny whatever answer is given; on the contrary your denial is a confirmation of its truth.

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
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[Lester]

You are free (at least in Canada) to worship whomever or whatever you like, but I disprove of you bringing religion into this thread. quote - "and it makes no difference that you deny whatever answer is given; on the contrary your denial is a confirmation of its truth." so what your saying is that if I debate you on a particular subject, I'm wrong, no matter what. Kind of one sided I think.

 

[eanassir]

You are free (at least in Canada) to worship whomever or whatever you like, but I disprove of you bringing religion into this thread. quote - "and it makes no difference that you deny whatever answer is given; on the contrary your denial is a confirmation of its truth." so what your saying is that if I debate you on a particular subject, I'm wrong, no matter what. Kind of one sided I think.

You are not a guardian over Canada; you want only to wrangle. ​

 

[Lester]

I would rather wrangle than be dictated to by the likes of you- You don't like people who wrangle because you cannot win the argument- by the way you are completely wrong about everything as usual- don't bother replying as you will just quote another verse or quatrain that has nothing to do with the real world.