The marriage "Saviours"

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

That it isn't constitutioally possible and the legislation they put forth protects the churches isn't enough for you? Of course you belong to a party that has no respect for the constitution and hates the courts, so we should expect you to project your contempt for our legal system onto others.

 

[Cathou]

Re: RE: The marriage "Saviour

No, actually, it's just part of the left wing and the radical gay lobby's hidden agenda. Until both the Liberals and New Dumbocrats categorically say they will not revoke the tax exempt status for any religious group or church that refuses to perfomr SSM, then I have to wonder. All they have to do is deny it, and I will believe them.

how many members do you think this left wing radical gay lobby can have ? i dont think it hold so much power. like in every community, we have our radicals, but it's a minority. like i said before, i dont know anyone who want to force the church to accept same-sex marriage, and probably that the homosexual community wouldnt support a law that force church to do same-sex marriage.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

It's just some more fear-mongering from the religious right, Cathou. It has as much validity as, "If we allow same sex marriages people will be marrying goats." They are getting more desperate all the time.

 

[Cathou]

after a quick search on that tax thing for church, well it seems that's is more an american concerne than a canadian one, and the only site who talk about that are church friendly (and the site was pretty harsh towards gay, so i dont think it's so reliable...), no gay association seems to have that request...

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

It's just another scare tactic, Cathou. You'll find that some factions use them a lot.

 

[peapod]

ah, yes the american concern about canada...interesting is it not. :roll:

 

[SirKevin]

Re: RE: The marriage "Saviour

No, actually, it's just part of the left wing and the radical gay lobby's hidden agenda. Until both the Liberals and New Dumbocrats categorically say they will not revoke the tax exempt status for any religious group or church that refuses to perfomr SSM, then I have to wonder. All they have to do is deny it, and I will believe them.

Until Harper says that he won't ban homosexuality if he forms a majority government, I won't believe him.

Again -- you are taking the words of one extremist and twisting it to reflect the entire movement, which, as Rev pointed out, is no more the case here than Randy White wanting to ban gay sex is reflective of the entire CPC. (I think :lol

 

[peapod]

Greetings Knight...how very true. Randy White just has the guts to say how he really thinks, not like the rest of them. Filthy dirty minds, with nothing better to do than stick their noses in other peoples bedrooms....Man I am so crabby today :twisted:

 

[bluealberta]

Greetings Knight...how very true. Randy White just has the guts to say how he really thinks, not like the rest of them. Filthy dirty minds, with nothing better to do than stick their noses in other peoples bedrooms....Man I am so crabby today :twisted:

Actually, most of us on the right have absolutely no problem with what anybody does in their bedrooms, how they do it, who they do it with, even if they do it :wink: . Your choice, we support choice. In this I agree with Trudeau, the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

Good...then you accept that gays have as much right to marry as anybody else. better tell your leader that he's embarrassing you then.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: The marriage "Saviour

Good...then you accept that gays have as much right to marry as anybody else. better tell your leader that he's embarrassing you then.

What happens in a bedroom stays in a bedroom. I support same sex civil unions, and support keeping the traditional definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman. But of course you knew that, but your mind may have slipped again, like it did on another thread. The only embarrassment I find in Canadian politicians is the Liberal government and it's trained seals, and it's lapdog, the New Dumbocratic Party. Having mafia wannabes running our country is disgraceful, embarrassing, and disgusting. Having another party support this party is beyond belief.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

So you still want to make one segment of our society just a little less equal than the rest of us? Too bad that's against the law.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: The marriage "Saviour

So you still want to make one segment of our society just a little less equal than the rest of us? Too bad that's against the law.

SSUnions have the same rights and benefits as traditional marriages.

SS Unions are equal before the law.

Therefore, there is no right or equality issues.

Therefore, you are wrong in your premise. And it's not against the law everywhere.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

Substitute the word interracial for same sex and try to sell that to us. It's the same principle.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: The marriage "Saviour

Substitute the word interracial for same sex and try to sell that to us. It's the same principle.

Gays are not a race, and I have addressed this issue on numerous other posts. You have the right to call yourself a woman, too, but calling yourself that does not change that you are a man (I think :wink: ). I have been very clear that I am not and have never been opposed to mixed race marriages. I am not opposed to SS Unions either. Been very clear on that too. Been very clear that I support the traditional definition of marriage too. If you need to call me names and slander me to validate your position, go ahead.Sticks and Stones.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

Gays are a minority group. Your position puts you in there with the rest of the bigots.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: The marriage "Saviour

Gays are a minority group. Your position puts you in there with the rest of the bigots.

Again, if you want to call me names to validate your position, go ahead. The people who know me think of me as reasonable, fair, and not bigotted. Apart, of course, from those who are themselves unreasonable, unfair, and extreme. And the reasonable and fair people come from all sides of the political spectrum. Sticks and stones, Rev, sticks and stones.

And again, I repeat, to compare a race (african-canadian, native, asian, etc) with a sexual preference group is no comparison. By your very same argument, any minority group could be included in your reasoning. Even minorities like pedophiles, and no, let's make it very clear: I am in no way equating gays with pedophiles. I am pointing out the fallacy of your argument by using one of the worst group of people on the planet as an example. Do you think pedophiles and their young targets should be allowed to marry or even have civil unions? I think the amount of men who want to marry their mother is a minority, should we allow them to marry or have civil unions? We restrict some aspects of marriage already, so to maintain the traditional definition of marriage is not anything new in our political system

 

[peapod]

If it walks like a bigot, talks like a bigot...chances are they are a bigot.

Parliament rejects Harper's bigotry
Motion to resurrect old definition of marriage fails

By Kevin Bourassa and Joe Varnell

Stephen Harper's ongoing attempt to stop the progress of equality failed again today when Parliament rejected his motion to prevent Bill C-38 from proceeding to second reading in the House of Commons. Harper's bigotry was rejected by 164 Members of Parliament; 132 MPs voted in favour of Harper's amendment, including approximately 30 Liberal backbenchers.

The NDP, most of the Bloc Quebecois, a majority of Liberals, and four Conservative MPs voted against the Tory attempt to deny the existence of gay marriage. This result was achieved despite an unprecedented campaign against civil rights mounted by religious and conservative extremists, funded in part by U.S. counterparts.

mmmmmmm...kind seem like the americans are taking a special interest in how we run our country...could the CIA be far behind....oh I know its all in my head.

 

[bluealberta]

If it walks like a bigot, talks like a bigot...chances are they are a bigot.

Parliament rejects Harper's bigotry
Motion to resurrect old definition of marriage fails

By Kevin Bourassa and Joe Varnell

Stephen Harper's ongoing attempt to stop the progress of equality failed again today when Parliament rejected his motion to prevent Bill C-38 from proceeding to second reading in the House of Commons. Harper's bigotry was rejected by 164 Members of Parliament; 132 MPs voted in favour of Harper's amendment, including approximately 30 Liberal backbenchers.

The NDP, most of the Bloc Quebecois, a majority of Liberals, and four Conservative MPs voted against the Tory attempt to deny the existence of gay marriage. This result was achieved despite an unprecedented campaign against civil rights mounted by religious and conservative extremists, funded in part by U.S. counterparts.

mmmmmmm...kind seem like the americans are taking a special interest in how we run our country...could the CIA be far behind....oh I know its all in my head.

The headline of the article invalidates it's effectiveness. The content simply reaffirms it. Paranoia runs rampant, pod, It will destroy you. There was only one grassy knoll and it was in Dallas.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: The marriage "Saviour

Actually there are grassy knolls everywhere, Blue. A knoll is just a small hill.