The ineffective brainwashing of Canadian schoolkids

MikeyDB

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Namaste

Perhaps you aren't familiar with the many special dynamics at work in western society so you'd miss the point that the conditioning of our children has been riotously successful and we live in an age where the consumerist lives and the human being doesn't.

We teach our children that all is fair in love and war....Conrad Black isn't a thief and a liar, he's the product of the idea that whomever dies with the most toys wins....

We teach our children that we can discriminate against blacks against native Canadians against women and against the poor the elderly and the sick.

Despite the fact that America had its great "Civil War", racism is alive and well in America and Canada where we have a little more difficulty with our racism because those damn indians aren't as obviously part of the "correct" group we can marginalize and denigrate with impunity. We've gotten better at defining the targets of our hatred though...

We've taught children that a smiling cartoon clown at the "golden arches" is a viable and in fact better parent than our human parents. We've taught our children that eating beef and swilling soda pop is the hallmark of freedom and democracy ...so then we can alienate and ostracize the obese and the diseased after they've followed our encouragement.

We've learned that if we characterize the "wants" of our children as "needs"....if Johnny or Sally are to be fully "accepted" in their social circle and at school it's our "duty" to make sure they have a GameBoy or a Nintendo or five hundred channel television at home....

We've taught our children that "disposable" is the way to go.

We invite them to purchase a clock or a fan or a TV or anything else they really "ought" to own at the discounted price made available by off-shore sweatshops and conditioned them not to expect that whatever they will buy will last but fall apart break or be replaced by something newly manufactured to honor the principles of planned obsolescence....

We've conditioned our children that a woman has to be skinny so if that means sticking your fingers down your throat...that's the price you'll have to pay for popularity and "beauty"....

We've conditioned our children to believe that "success" comes not from an internal personal triumph of the spirit but through the objects you own and the wealth you can demonstrate.

We've taught our children that the earth and everything in it is a disposable commodity so they need not be concerned and can waste and consume without conscience.

We've taught our children that the wealthy and the powerful are more derserving of our respect and awe than anyone else, and we teach them to accept whatever the wealthy and powerful say as the absolute truth.
 

china

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MickeyDB
Dear Mickey,Observe ,and see that in our present civilization we have divided life into so many departments that education has very little meaning except in learning a particular technique or profession. Instead of awakening the intelligence of the student, education is encouraging him to conform to a pattern and so is hindering his comprehension of himself as a total process.Personally, I left school at a young age .It was a right move . [/FONT]
 
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iARTthere4iam

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Mikey,

I believe you are mistaken on a number of points.

1)Alls fair in love an war- hardly, we must conduct wars with respect without hurting too many people, without hatred- see Afghanistan. Wars cannot be won in such a manner.Wars purpose is to make the other guy give up. Fighting with such restricted goals is dangerous and leads to longer bloodier wars.

2)we can discriminate against blacks against native Canadians against women and against the poor the elderly and the sick.- where have you been? we cannot discriminate against anyone. We have a black female foreign born Governor General, multiple MP's both male and female and of ethnic minorities, our laws apply to every canadian regardless of race, religion, financial status, or gender.

3)we have a little more difficulty with our racism because those damn indians aren't as obviously part of the "correct" group we can marginalize and denigrate with impunity- Oh come now. Indians are afforded all of the same rights as other Canadians. They are not segregated from Canadian society except where they choose to live on reserves apart from other Canadians.
 

MikeyDB

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Iart....

What we "think" isn't the same as reality my friend. The way we behave is reality. We may "think" that the notion that "alls fair in love and war" is the credo of the nihilism but in fact that's exactly the way we behave.

We freely elect to find reasons for embargoes both financial and military that serve the "needs" of our societies.... It's "acceptable" to invade a nation because our embargoes didn't work as swimmingly as we'd hoped....our embargoes didn't prevent the "enemy" from hoarding huge stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction...for example.

We think that all's fair in love so we have no qualms about lying both directly and through ommission about who we are what we think and what we believe.....

Racism exists and despite the fact that you think that the native Canadian isn't discriminated against, there are a few who'd argue that makeing agreements with the governing body of the nation is as binding on the nation as it is on the native...but this clearly isn't the way we behave.
 

MikeyDB

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It's certainly more comfortable to believe that we've erected a just and equitable system of laws and government than it's all fuzzy warm to acknowledge that our governments commit atrocities in our name and on our "behalf"....

I'm getting a good deal of grief around here for bringing the responsibility to the individual....

No one likes to admit that they do what they know at some level is "wrong" but celebrate the great deal they got at WalMart.....

No one likes to admit that responsibility for how our nations and our governments work is a reflection of the choices we make as individuals.

People don't like to be held accountable for their own actions. It's far easier to identify "national necessity" and "broader interests" than it is to own the impetus behind our nations actions.

This is exactly what we teach our children.....

"It's not my parenting skills and my committment to the well-being of my children and my family that are to blame...or where the responsibility lies for trouble....its genetic....or its a disability or its ADD or its ADHD or its too much lead in the water or its the influence of television or its this or that...

Personal responsibility suggests rather that a great injustice is leveled at the rest of humanity becuase an elderly person gets a break on the price of a movie ticket.....

If we allow lattitude in holding our governments and our businesses accountable because they are after all rich and smart.... it's entirely reasonable that only the wealthy have a shot at university it's only common sense that there should be a two tier justice system.....
 

iARTthere4iam

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I don't know where you went to school that tried to teach you the "alls fair in love and war" or that you should discriminate agains blacks or nativies or the elderly or the poor. I certainly wasn't told any of these things, and if I was I would have told my teachers their beliefs were absurd ( just as I told them their catholic teaching were madness). I went to school with Canadian-born children, and others from Poland, Portugul, Ethiopia, natives from reserves etc. I was never told to discriminate, never told "them" were worse than "us". In fact the one moral lesson that stuck with me from my catholic education was "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". As far as religious goes that is all I have.