The Greateast Canadian

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Some of you must have been watching the CBC feature which has about 2 weeks left to go until he's chosen. At the current time, it looks like the winner is going to Terry Fox or Tommy Douglas, but hey, the tide can turn.

There's so many aspects to look at in considering who you think is the real winner, but looking past all of the attention the show is getting, who is it?

Here's the top 10 list:

1 Tommy Douglas
2 Terry Fox
3 Dr. Frederick Banting
4 Pierre Elliott Trudeau
5 Don Cherry
6 Lester B. Pearson
7 David Suzuki
8 Sir John A. Macdonald
9 Wayne Gretzky
10 Alexander Graham Bell

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I sure think Alexander Graham Bell should be the winner, but then I remember Tommy Douglas and think of how great he made Canada by pushing the country to a free health care system.. It's such a hard call :)

What are your thoughts?
 

Andem

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BTW... it's totally beyond me how Don Cherry is 5 spots ahead of Bell. Why is he on this list??
 

Haggis McBagpipe

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I agree with you about Cherry, Andem. I would put Trudeau at the very top for many reasons, not least of which was his understanding, seemingly long before the rest of us realized it, that Canada must, for its very survival, remain apart from the US as much as possible.

I'd put Bell second, though.
 

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As a European, I would go for Alexander Graham Bell, partly because that is one of few who I recognize from the list (besides Terry Fox, Pierre Elliott Trudeau and Wayne Gretzky), but also because I think that he deserves it. But as I am not Canadian, I know I see it all different than most of you :)
 

Andem

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The notion of that a bigot like Don Cherry is on the list, let alone top 5 or top 10, is extremely offensive!

I agree with you Haggis, Trudeau is also a good choice for top-canuck... but I wouldn't put him as being more important as Bell or Fox.
 

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Re: RE: The Greateast Canadian

Andem said:
I agree with you Haggis, Trudeau is also a good choice for top-canuck... but I wouldn't put him as being more important as Bell or Fox.

Actually, you bring up an especially good point. These people (the good choices) made amazing contributions to this country and often, to mankind as a whole. The contributions vary to such a degree that one has to ask, should this really be a 'who gets to be the best' kind of competition?
 

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On that list, I'd say it's a toss-up between Tommy Douglas and Lester Pearson. More than anyone else, they're responsible for the way Canada is today. The ideas came from Douglas. Universal publicly funded health care, unemployment insurance, pensions, welfare services, the whole social safety net Canadians now consider to be a right of citizenship, are all in the Regina Manifesto of a socialist political party originally called the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation, the CCF, which has since mutated into today's New Democratic Party. Douglas was a founding member of both. But the CCF and NDP never achieved national political power. It was the minority Liberal governments of Lester Pearson that made those ideas reality. Nobody else on that list had anything like the lasting influence those two people had, and to the extent that Canada is perceived as a sane and civilized place in this world, most of the credit belongs to them.

Sir John, as the original architect of this country, is close behind, followed by Trudeau, though any thoughtful and informed Canadian would also have to concede that Trudeau was pretty divisive in a lot of ways and never really understood anything of this country west of Hamilton or east of Montreal.

Cherry and Bell shouldn't be on the list at all. Cherry's abrasive and opinionated and not at all typically Canadian, and Bell did most of his work in the United States. The others are all single-issue people and don't have the scope of Douglas, Pearson, Trudeau, or MacDonald. I freely admit to unreserved admiration for Terry Fox, he was a genuine hero who made a difference in a lot of lives, but he's about only one thing. So are the rest of them.

My vote (and yes I voted online) goes to Tommy Douglas, the quintessential good and decent man who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw pain and tried to heal it, saw injustice and tried to correct it.

But there are no women on that list, and there should be. Who got votes for women, who fought for the right of women to be equal citizens, who's still fighting that battle... That's a crucial part of the Canada's social and political landscape over the last century, and it's completely absent from that list. And from that I conclude that this is just a fairly trivial popularity contest.

Dex
 

Andem

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Dexter Sinister said:
Universal publicly funded health care, unemployment insurance, pensions, welfare services, the whole social safety net Canadians now consider to be a right of citizenship, are all in the Regina Manifesto of a socialist political party originally called the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation, the CCF, which has since mutated into today's New Democratic Party.



Thanks for that tidbit of info, there's obviously a lot I have to learn :D But I do everyday from this place, hehe. I agree with your choices.. though I still think in different ways, Bell was the greatest Canadian. Canada wouldn't be the same today without all of these people (minus Don Cherry), so I think they're all great.
 

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My choice would be Tommy Douglas also. I am more drawn to his socialist outlook and consistency than Trudeau's "Hollywood" type lifestyle. Douglas seemed to truly be a man of the people, and although he could have ran for a more traditional office he chose to fight for what he believed in any arena it presented itself.

Gretsky? lol Great player, but not in the same league as some of the others on the list.
 

Andem

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Re: RE: The Greateast Canadian

Prometheus said:
My choice would be Tommy Douglas also. I am more drawn to his socialist outlook and consistency than Trudeau's "Hollywood" type lifestyle. Douglas seemed to truly be a man of the people, and although he could have ran for a more traditional office he chose to fight for what he believed in any arena it presented itself.

Gretsky? lol Great player, but not in the same league as some of the others on the list.


Prommy :D :D Welcome back to cc..

I agree with your view on Gretzgy. He is and was a hockey legend, but nothing compared to the others.. Hockey doesn't shape Canadian life, contrary to what a lot of people think.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: The Greateast Canadia

My vote goes to Tommy Douglas. His ideas weren't just used in Canada, they very much influenced the rest of the world, especially when it came to health care. Those ideas very much shaped Canada though. Without Douglas, Pearson wouldn't have had the ideas to put into force and Trudeau wouldn't have had a base to work from.

As for Don Cherry...he's an embarrassment not just to Canada, but to the entire human race.
 

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I can't even begin to understand why Don Cherry is on the list. Gretsky, well, borderline, but I guess it depends on how you see "great".

Of all, I'd put Bell first, Douglas second. It's hard to forgive Douglas for inflicting Keifer Sutherland on the world.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: The Greateast Canadia

I like Keifer...he was in that cowboy movie where they ate peyote. ;-)

Don Cherry is the list because he got enough votes. Remember that this isn't really based on acheivements, it's based on how many people can be convinced to vote for a candidate and you can vote as many times as you want, within certain limits.

Hal Anderson, a Winnipeg DJ and thoroughly obnoxious man, made it onto the top 100 list that they started with. If Hal's a great Canadian, then Don Cherry is Ghandi. The fact is that Hal has a lot of fans willing to vote over and over again. Don has more fans like that. I have a feeling that they share their fan base to some extent.

Most of the people who made the top ten are likely to draw a vote or two from many Canadians though...people who watched the show on the candidate and voted for them.
 

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