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Cool! Who knew the afterlife was so sexy?

You will only see fire in the afterlife.
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The tombs or graves of prophets and righteous men will be like idols: people come to visit them and ask their needs from such tombs and from the one buried in that grave; they glorify him, pray him, hope that he will grant them their needs; they swear by him and his grave; they circle round about the tomb, vow to him and give alms for his sake ... while all such works are the idolatry and the associating of such prophets, Jewish sages, Christian saints, Muslim imams and others together with God Almighty .. this in fact is the idolatry and the tomb will be like the idol.

The tomb or grave of Prophet Samuel in Jerusalem

This also is the tomb of Prophet Abraham


This is Rachel's tomb


Haredi Jews praying at Rachel's tomb.
 

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This is a Christian tomb and statue (or idol)


The statue (or idol) of the Christ at Rio de Janeiro


This is another tomb of a Christian saint


Saint Vibiana's tomb in the crypt of Our Lady of the Angels Cathedral​
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Muslims also learned from the past nations of Jews and Christians, and so they forget about the 'exclusive devotion to God alone' and started to glorify the graves and shrines of their imams and sheikhs; and for this reason you have defeated them .. till now.










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Here are also some images of the graves of sheikhs sanctified by some of the Sunni Muslims:



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You'll only see fire on your way to the afterlife.

You will be defeated and will be gathered together to Hell.

Quran 3: 12, which means:
Say [Mohammed] to those who disbelieve: 'You will [in the future] be defeated [and we shall be victorious over you], then [following your death, you shall be] assembled to Hell –– an evil place that you prepare [for yourselves.a]'}
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a Because of your disbelief and denial.
 

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You will be defeated and will be gathered together to Hell.
And you'll be in Paradise. Which is kinda funny, because spending eternity with a rigid, boring, priggish pedant like you is pretty much my definition of hell, and spending eternity with the intelligent, compassionate, interesting people you condemn is pretty much my definition of paradise.

So, you get your desire and I get mine. Pretty good thing, enit?

Allah is endlessly merciful and compassionate.
 

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And you'll be in Paradise.
Allah is endlessly merciful and compassionate.

Allah or God is Most Gracious, Most Merciful and Compassionate, to Whom is my submission and servitude.
I cannot judge myself to Paradise, none can do so except only God Most Gracious.
So I hope to go to Paradise, but how can I assert that I will be in Paradise?

What I told you about Hell in the Next Life; that is because:
The idolater, associater and atheist will not go to Paradise, but will go to Hell to be there forever.

And anyone who does not follow the Quran, does not believe in Prophet Mohammed and does not believe that God is One without associate ... such one will not go to Paradise in heaven: Paradise is forbidden for him and for anyone who is not a Muslim.

While Muslims: if they believe in God as One without associate, and does not exaggerate in loving the prophets and imams and who does not have any patron besides God Almighty, and in addition such Muslim give charity and work righteousness and avoid the disobedience of God ... then such one may go to Paradise in heaven; and this will not be unless by the forgiveness and mercy of God.

But Muslims: if they are wrong-doers, and follow the atheism and follow the enthusiasm about the imams and sheikhs, and if they disobey God's commands and are stingy with their money to the poor and needy, and if they do not do righteous acts .. then how can they go to Paradise.

Moreover, the matter of admission into Paradise or Hell is up to God alone, and even the prophets cannot decide this.
 

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There are general rules:
>> One who blasphemes, disbelieves in God: reviles God, disbelieves in Prophet Mohammed the seal of prophets to whom the Quran was revealed: such one will certainly lose.
>> The associater who associate idols, religious men, angels and others .. such one will lose in the Next Life.
>> Moreover, the one who is not a Muslim will be a loser in the Next Life.

Quran 3: 85, which means:
{Anyone seeks any religion, other than the Islam, [his righteous work] will not be accepted from him [because the past religions were altered g],
and he shall, in the Next Life, be of those who lose [the prosperity of Paradise. h]}
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g By the hand of the ‘chiefs of sects’ and by the ‘scholars of error and misguidance’; so that they changed and altered with their desires, and then said: This is what God commanded and instructed in His Torah; but they were liars against God, for the purpose of their personal advantages and for the wealth and position.

While the Islam religion is the true religion which God commanded people to follow in the past and at the present time, because it is the standard religion till Doomsday;

and its followers do not worship idols as did you, Jews, worship, and as did you, Christians, claim about the Trinity,

while Muslims exclusively devote themselves to God alone.

h So that anyone who seeks any religion other than the Islam, will lose the prosperity of Paradise.

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Kinda makes a body wonder why you condemn folks to hell so much.

When I see some believers and doers of righteousness and they enjoin on people to be just and to give charity to the poor and needy ... to these I may pray God to give them prosperity in Paradise.

but when I see some disbelievers and atheists and they revile God and His noble Prophet Mohammed and transgress on the Quran ... these I will warn and threaten with the punishment in Hell for the idolaters and disbelievers.
 

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There are general rules:
>> One who blasphemes, disbelieves in God: reviles God, disbelieves in Prophet Mohammed the seal of prophets to whom the Quran was revealed: such one will certainly lose.
>> The associater who associate idols, religious men, angels and others .. such one will lose in the Next Life.
>> Moreover, the one who is not a Muslim will be a loser in the Next Life.

Quran 3: 85, which means:
{Anyone seeks any religion, other than the Islam, [his righteous work] will not be accepted from him [because the past religions were altered g],
and he shall, in the Next Life, be of those who lose [the prosperity of Paradise. h]}
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g By the hand of the ‘chiefs of sects’ and by the ‘scholars of error and misguidance’; so that they changed and altered with their desires, and then said: This is what God commanded and instructed in His Torah; but they were liars against God, for the purpose of their personal advantages and for the wealth and position.

While the Islam religion is the true religion which God commanded people to follow in the past and at the present time, because it is the standard religion till Doomsday;

and its followers do not worship idols as did you, Jews, worship, and as did you, Christians, claim about the Trinity,

while Muslims exclusively devote themselves to God alone.

h So that anyone who seeks any religion other than the Islam, will lose the prosperity of Paradise.

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When I see some believers and doers of righteousness and they enjoin on people to be just and to give charity to the poor and needy ... to these I may pray God to give them prosperity in Paradise.

but when I see some disbelievers and atheists and they revile God and His noble Prophet Mohammed and transgress on the Quran ... these I will warn and threaten with the punishment in Hell for the idolaters and disbelievers.
LOL....have you not noticed that God seems to be deaf....thank goodness. Who are you to warn and threaten people?? Humans have been threatened by believers throughout history. If there is any justice, usurping God's role is punishable by death......Oh but wait....that comes to all, no matter what.
 

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LOL....have you not noticed that God seems to be deaf....thank goodness. Who are you to warn and threaten people?? Humans have been threatened by believers throughout history. If there is any justice, usurping God's role is punishable by death......Oh but wait....that comes to all, no matter what.

God is All-Hearing.

And who are you?
... Oh but wait ...
It is not humans to be warned, but the idolaters, atheists, the enthusiastics about Jesus Christ and others, and Zionists: so you almost belong to one of such groups.
 

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God is All-Hearing....Prove it!!

Me? I am a human female with a decent brain, due to evolution. So idolaters, atheists and enthusiasts about Jesus Christ and others, including Zionist are not!! LOL I am not any of those but I am definitely one smart human female. So what are you?? I suspect a mind slave to a religion who has not had an original idea in a very long while.

So exactly what is the purpose of your particular life?? To preach?? Not exactly welcomed in a world where there is freedom to practice whatever religion one chooses but to even explore many other life purposes. Quit while you are ahead!!
 

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Why is that?It is even against human nature.

"Human" means "of the earth", SS.

human (adj.)
mid-15c., humain, humaigne, "human," from Old French humain, umain (adj.) "of or belonging to man" (12c.), from Latin humanus "of man, human," also "humane, philanthropic, kind, gentle, polite; learned, refined, civilized." This is in part from PIE *(dh)ghomon-, literally "earthling, earthly being," as opposed to the gods (see homunculus). Compare Hebrew adam "man," from adamah "ground." Cognate with Old Lithuanian zmuo (accusative zmuni) "man, male person."
Online Etymology Dictionary

Jesus speaks of another life here:

"At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." (Matthew 22:30 NIV)
"When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." (Mark 12:25 NIV)
 

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Man is comprised of a material body and an ethereal or spiritual soul.
And what is your evidence for this extraordinary claim? I know of no evidence that would justify accepting that as true, all you've got is a 7th century text that makes the same unsupported claim, and that's nothing more than the argument from authority fallacy. You have failed to make the case.
 

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And what is your evidence for this extraordinary claim? I know of no evidence that would justify accepting that as true, all you've got is a 7th century text that makes the same unsupported claim, and that's nothing more than the argument from authority fallacy. You have failed to make the case.
All anyone has is faith. Nothing more .
 

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I have a good deal more than mere faith, which in this context means belief in the absence of, and sometimes defiantly in the face of, the evidence.
 

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Luke:21:24 was 70AD and that is when the 'time of the Gentiles' started, Re:11 picks the story up when there are 42 months left. During that period the 2 witnesses will be active and since they have powers that are greater than Moses had, the time of faith by proof would be 'the norm'. We are all doubting a Thomas, the book alone has us believing in a literal God or it doesn't. If it does you are alive at the start of the 1,000 year reign and if you are not then you are alive at the start of Judgement Day.

I have a good deal more than mere faith, which in this context means belief in the absence of, and sometimes defiantly in the face of, the evidence.
Which would affect the earth's weather more, a few sunspots more/less or 20,000 underwater volcanoes going off in a line about 2,000km long?