The 100 years war is not over !

[Numure]

I celebrate La Fete Nationale too, hope I'm allowed, even though I am not what you would call a Quebecoise.

But is it not possible to keep being quebecois and well aware of your nationality and nurture your language and culture and at the same time see a bigger picture - Canada?

And do you really think that Quebec without Canada would be better off?

I honestly do think so. And by you not being Québécoise, what do you mean?

 

[Numure]

Numure,
I'm sorry, I understand that you're strongly for Quebec independence, probably the same way I'm against it. And nobody will change their mind anytime soon. So...Peace?

Ahh, minds change. My has, I was also a federalist somewhat before I attended University. If Québec becomes an idependant country, then we can ease up on the language laws. As we would be a majority in our own Country. We could conduct our own immigration policy. For example, not limit middle eastern immigration for discrimination reason. I feel a bond to North Africans, their culture brings so much to ours, but our federal goverment has put in place strick immigration policies, bot only on them, but on many Francophone cultures that wish to live here, with us. Dans un Québec libre, le terme Québécoise et Québécois, n'est pas seulement que pour les Blanc Francophone, mais pour toutes les cultures qui vivent ici avec nous.

 

[EternalSunshine]

Dans un Québec libre, le terme Québécoise et Québécois, n'est pas seulement que pour les Blanc Francophone, mais pour toutes les cultures qui vivent ici avec nous.

This is exactly what I have a problem believing. Don't get me wrong - would be nice, I just think minority of separatists share this opinion.

I moved here from Europe, little bit over 7 years ago, completely clueless, only thing I knew - I had to learn French. Not a problem. My French teacher gave me my first lesson on Quebec "issue". She asked me if my husband was a Quebecois, and as naive as I was, thinking "well he was born here, so he must be" I answered "Yes" And then I was told that he can't really be, because his name doesn't really sound as if he is from Quebec...etc


I don't really have a problem with the language laws, since I do believe that everything has to be done to preserve French language and culture in Quebec. Within Canada. And something should be done to raise quality of English taught to kids in French schools here.

 

[Numure]

I would prefer a different language then english thought to our children. Now, as for your teacher, she/he was probably a racist bastard. They exist everywhere. One thing I can point out, most seperatist share my opinion. That the word Québécois/Québécoise is for all that live here or are born here. Not selective to White people that speak french. My last name is Belzile. It isnt the typical Québécois name, but my ancesters immigrated her in 1651. To add to that, my first name is Andrew, yet I'm not an anglophone. I can tell you with certainty, that I am a Québécois, born and raised. Haitiens that live here, are Québécois/Québécoise as well. So are you.

 

[EternalSunshine]

It sure is good to know that there are separatists that think that way.

 

[Numure]

It sure is good to know that there are separatists that think that way.

The only issue that seperatist share, is the common goal to have our own country. The seperatist cause, has right wingers, left wingers and former liberals. Réné Levesque was a member of the Liberal party before he created this peaceful movement. Much of the old guard is racist, but the generation before me, my generation, and the ones after me, all believe in a multi cultural Québec. The Parti Québécois shares that views in its immigration policies.

 

[Démocrite]

L'argument de EternalSunshine selon lequel nous devrions oublier les vieux conflits et "we should focus more on building our national identity as Canadians" est recevable dans la seule et unique mesure où il y a absence de rapports de domination entre deux peuples. Or la réalité nous montre le contraire, c'est-à-dire qu'être francophone au Canada est un désavantage sur tous les plans: politiques, culturelles, économiques, linguistique. La seule façon de rémédier à cette situation c'est la souveraineté puisque l'histoire nous montre que les Canadiens anglais sont trop coincés pour entreprendre des réformes du fédéralisme ou de revenir à l'esprit de la loi constitionnelle de 1867.

Je veux bien célébrer la différence culturelle, mais on oublie trop vite que le discours du multiculturalisme à la Trudeau est le discours idéologique que les puissants se sont donné pour mieux discréditer le discours nationale souverainiste des dominés. Mais voilà, cette tactique militaire ne fonctionne pas parce que nous avons une conscience historique plus développée que la plupart des English Canadians étrangement amnésiques quand cela les arrange. Réveillez-vous! Vous nous reprocher sans cesse d'être fermés sur nous-mêmes alors que vous démontré depuis deux siècles une intolérance sans équivalent dans l'histoire à l'égard des Québécois. Vous êtes passés champions de l'arrogance et du paternalisme malsain. Vous êtes mal placés pour faire leçon et prétendre être un modèle de tolérance et d'ouverture.

 

[Vincent_2002]

Why do the separatists not just admit we will never separate?? It will never happen, so why not just work towards a better Canada.... There would be so much better change if all the separatists just got together with other Canadians to force our government to work for us...

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Does Anybody have any thoughts on that one?

 

[Vincent_2002]

I just found out that everybody in these posts are from Montréal?