The 100 years war is not over !

[Proud_Quebecer]

Yeah it seems so !

French and Enlish people fought for over well let me guess..400 years maybe..and do not have learned yet

We have the chance here in Canada to have 2 of teh greatest cultures of the world..2 ancient power and i am sure that if finally we work together hand in hand that this country will become greater someday

But if we the atitudes of the two cultures persist..there will be no future for Canada

I love Canada but i do not like the way the 2 cultures are towards each others


and thats the bottom line ! :?

 

[Numure]

Well, I dont share that view. I would share it, if the Centralist tendencies of Ottawa would change, and we would decentralise... So we can guide our Nation, and the other provinces can do the same.

 

[Numure]

And the dislike between the french and english is maybe 1000 years old.

 

[Proud_Quebecer]

...and it will always be it seems..As i can see Numure you are for the separation of the province of Quebec

I m gonna say something funny now...

Dont you believe that when God saw that the french and english people fought each other over the centuries , he was sick and tired of seeing it and then sais to himself :

Maybe i should create a land , a country where the two nemesis wouls be together so they could learn...


mmmm...science-fiction but it was fun saying i

...and God must now feel sorry for us and say there s nothig to do with both cultures..

Hope now he wont send a flood over the country ...loll.. :laughing5: [/list]

 

[Numure]

I don't believe in god or religion.

 

[Proud_Quebecer]

it was only a joke Numure.. :wink: ...and acknowledge that i have a great imagination..lolll... :angel9:

 

[Anonymous]

disagree

the separation is not against someone...it is for us and only us.

Don't bring those language war in these kind of topic.

 

[Proud_Quebecer]

if my talking bothers you , i suggest taht you go to another thread

 

[Démocrite]

There are neither English nor French in this country. English/French antagonism is typically an Europeen issue. There are more than two cultures or people in this country. Québécois are completely different than Acadians, plus you forget First Nations in your description. Canada and Quebec have been more than the US the typical immigrant-built country. Canadian history picturised as war zone between two nations is truly a inaccurate representation of our commun past.

 

[Proud_Quebecer]

I think that this antagonism between the english and french cultures were present here on the other side of the ocean..in the time of the colonies..weren t they ?

for the rest i must agree with your sayings after thinking of it

 

[Démocrite]

It's true that French and English people here were fighting but only as a result of Wars fought in Europe between Great-Britain and France, not because of true antagonism. The Seven years war was over in Europe and English and French were still fighting here because they didn't know. So Europe always decided when wars were declared and when peace agreement were signed, and the military here would follow this decision-pattern like puppets.

 

[Anonymous]

That was a shame..If peace and understanding would be the rule in that time in North America..that would have been a model for Europe or at least France and England

I ve just read about the 100 years war..and i found it completely idiot this war and all the dead...juste for the title of to know who would be ruler in France...a family history


I was also surprised to learn that in these times French was the language of England or at least a great majority..

And also that they could have been reunited in a single country since they were talking the same language and have the same laws and culture..in fact they were identical

And today we would not talk about the french and english in Canada..In fact the language would have been today french since that it was the language use at that time in both Countrys


the 100 years war was a complex one..with all the family stuff and more

I will read further about it and try to understand it more


By the way I ve learned by the revue Historia that France and England planned in World war 2 (before France felt) to be reunited as a single Country..but the plan felt when France surrendered to the Germans (well at least the North of it )

 

[Numure]

The 100 year war, was also when Joan of Arc came about.

 

[Démocrite]

Read a little more, and tell us what you further learned. I'm curious.

 

[Anonymous]

ok, but don t expect a reply before a couple of months..This period of intrigues, families and stuff is complicated at the most 8O

 

[EternalSunshine]

I think that in Canada, we should focus more on building our national identity as Canadians, and not fight over whose ancestors came from where, and who was here first, and who pushed whom from their land (anyway, everyone knows who really was here first, before Europeans), and what war lasted 100 years or 17 minutes....

Our diversity should enrich us, not be a cause of discord. Same with languages, we should all be able to speak both, and be happy about it.

 

[Numure]

My identity is Québécois. I think many share that view. Just look at how many people participate at La Fête Nationale. Our Parlement is called L'Assemblé Nationale. We are a nationality, in the country of Canada. I'm not french(nationality), and I'm not canadian.

 

[EternalSunshine]

I celebrate La Fete Nationale too, hope I'm allowed, even though I am not what you would call a Quebecoise.

But is it not possible to keep being quebecois and well aware of your nationality and nurture your language and culture and at the same time see a bigger picture - Canada?

And do you really think that Quebec without Canada would be better off?

 

[EternalSunshine]

Numure,
I'm sorry, I understand that you're strongly for Quebec independence, probably the same way I'm against it. And nobody will change their mind anytime soon. So...Peace?

 

[Anonymous]

A Quebec independant will look like QUEBEC. We will be able to built on our identity, on our wish and dream for Quebec.

L'indépendance, c'est avant tout la naissance.