Stephen Harper: The Al Gore of Canadian Politics?
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gordo said:
Actually, the Bloc is considered to be a left-wing party and they find much of what the Conservative Party stands for to be offensive...
...but that is irrelevant, as it is a no-brainer that a voter for the Bloc would NEVER vote for the Conservative Party of Canada...
Vanni Fucci said:
Actually, Vanni, that is bullshit and you know it. How about real Canadian values that the CPC promotes like:
Lower personal and corporate taxation.
Increased spending on the military to ensure they can do their jobs.
Fiscally responsible social programs, unlike the bogus and overbudget gun registry, to name one.
There are just three. There are more. And what to the Libs have for Canadian values:
Buying of votes (parties and individuals) simply to stay in power.
Using taxpayer dollars to fund their election campaign.
Using taxpayer dollars to enrich their Quebec ad firm friends.
There are just three. There are more.
Gee, I wonder which ones are best? :roll:
There is no hidden agenda, and the continual lying of the left is getting really stupid. Maybe thats why the polls are starting to show a reversal, and that real Canadians with real Canadian values are seeing through the lies, deception, sleaze and stench surrounding the Libs and their new bed mates, the NDP.
Either find a hidden agenda, or STFU about it.
bluealberta said:
Yeah, by slashing burning social programs to do it...
bluealberta said:
...and what job would that be? Following the US on their imperialistic campaigns?
bluealberta said:
See above...
Vanni Fucci said:
See initial response to your see above.
You really have no answers that make any sense. The policies the CPC will put into place will not slash and burn anything. On the contrary, they have the potential of putting more money into the hands of people who actually need it. The military has been gutted and filetted by the liberals over the years to the point it is irrelevant. In order to get it back to some semblance of resepectability will take a lot of money. The CPC will reverse the libs cuts.
And anyone who thinks the Libs policies are fiscally responsible needs to give their heads a shake. Or get an eye exam.
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Is that why the Conservatives had the least endorsements by economists in the last election, Blue?
Sorry man, we've seen what these policies do when put into action. They are the same policies that are driving the US deeply into debt right now. They are the same policies that we've seen fail in every other neo-con country on the planet.
Is that why the Conservatives had the least endorsements by economists in the last election, Blue?
Sorry man, we've seen what these policies do when put into action. They are the same policies that are driving the US deeply into debt right now. They are the same policies that we've seen fail in every other neo-con country on the planet.
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And the Liberals promote what? Stealing and money laundering. Horrendous cost overruns in the gun registry. A lost $1 - $2 billion in HRDC. On and On.
The CPC policies will treat taxpayers fairly and equally, will not gut social programs, because there is no need, and will ensure that the social programs are run fiscally responsible. They will also enhance the reputation and ability of our military which will improve our standing on the world stage. Or at least get us back to the stage, we have been off for so long now, we can't even see the friggin stage.
You have no proof of what the CPC policies will do because they have not been in power. In a lot of ways, their policies are similar to Kleins policies, and gee, all that has given Alberta is no sales tax, lowest personal income tax, no debt, etc. But then who in their right mind would want that when we could have the liberals proven record of corruption, incompetence, and mismanagement. Only people with no power to think for themselves.
Reverend Blair said:
And the Liberals promote what? Stealing and money laundering. Horrendous cost overruns in the gun registry. A lost $1 - $2 billion in HRDC. On and On.
The CPC policies will treat taxpayers fairly and equally, will not gut social programs, because there is no need, and will ensure that the social programs are run fiscally responsible. They will also enhance the reputation and ability of our military which will improve our standing on the world stage. Or at least get us back to the stage, we have been off for so long now, we can't even see the friggin stage.
You have no proof of what the CPC policies will do because they have not been in power. In a lot of ways, their policies are similar to Kleins policies, and gee, all that has given Alberta is no sales tax, lowest personal income tax, no debt, etc. But then who in their right mind would want that when we could have the liberals proven record of corruption, incompetence, and mismanagement. Only people with no power to think for themselves.
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The Liberals have a whack of balanced budgets and have made a huge dent in the debt Mulroney left, so the second you say that they are fiscally irresponsible, you lose all credibility.
The Liberals have a whack of balanced budgets and have made a huge dent in the debt Mulroney left, so the second you say that they are fiscally irresponsible, you lose all credibility.
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Fiscally responsible does not mean balanced budgets done by first increasing taxes, then decreasing them, but raising CPP contributions at the same time. Fiscally responsible does not include a gun registry that went from $2million to $2 billion, HRDC losing $2billion, billions stashed in foundation accounts, a $46billion surplus in EI premiums, coming from employees and employers alike, etc. And the best of all is the Liberal Party had to steal taxpayers money to fund an election campgain because the party was broke.
Anyone who believes this to be fiscally responsible needs a refresher course in economics 101.
Just for the record, deficit financing started with Pearson, a liberal, in the 60's and continued right on through, so to blame Mulroney is disingeneous at best, a lie at worst.
Reverend Blair said:
Fiscally responsible does not mean balanced budgets done by first increasing taxes, then decreasing them, but raising CPP contributions at the same time. Fiscally responsible does not include a gun registry that went from $2million to $2 billion, HRDC losing $2billion, billions stashed in foundation accounts, a $46billion surplus in EI premiums, coming from employees and employers alike, etc. And the best of all is the Liberal Party had to steal taxpayers money to fund an election campgain because the party was broke.
Anyone who believes this to be fiscally responsible needs a refresher course in economics 101.
Just for the record, deficit financing started with Pearson, a liberal, in the 60's and continued right on through, so to blame Mulroney is disingeneous at best, a lie at worst.
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Actually, the Liberals have done very well at being fiscally responsible. Where they fall down is by not spending enough on social programs and not being a whole lot harder on bigots and homophobes. They are also moving, albeit more slowly than Harper would, towards deep integration with the United States.
Actually, the Liberals have done very well at being fiscally responsible. Where they fall down is by not spending enough on social programs and not being a whole lot harder on bigots and homophobes. They are also moving, albeit more slowly than Harper would, towards deep integration with the United States.
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Fiscally responsible: No. Liberals do not know the meaning of the phrase, as is evident by their record.
Regarding bigots and homophobes, this is not Nazi Germany, and your comments should be scarey to all who read this forum. You cannot legislate these things, certain people will always be this way. If you cannot legislate this out of existence, what is the next step?
Reverend Blair said:
Fiscally responsible: No. Liberals do not know the meaning of the phrase, as is evident by their record.
Regarding bigots and homophobes, this is not Nazi Germany, and your comments should be scarey to all who read this forum. You cannot legislate these things, certain people will always be this way. If you cannot legislate this out of existence, what is the next step?
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Well thank you for that blue...you at least have the nuts to admit it, and if nothing else, I have some respect for you for that reason alone...
http://www.straightgoods.com/McQuaig/010312.shtml
bluealberta said:
Well thank you for that blue...you at least have the nuts to admit it, and if nothing else, I have some respect for you for that reason alone...
http://www.straightgoods.com/McQuaig/010312.shtml
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Ya gotta love Linda McQuaig. Her book, It's the Crude, Dude, details what a crappy deal Klein swung on those oil contracts too. If Ralph was even vaguely competent, Alberta would be much Richer than it already is.
Ya gotta love Linda McQuaig. Her book, It's the Crude, Dude, details what a crappy deal Klein swung on those oil contracts too. If Ralph was even vaguely competent, Alberta would be much Richer than it already is.
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Yeah...but that would just give the greedy bastards even more incentive to separate...and would make the neocons even more dangerous... 8O
Reverend Blair said:
Yeah...but that would just give the greedy bastards even more incentive to separate...and would make the neocons even more dangerous... 8O
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That will solve itself with time, Vanni. Alberta is growing and larger urban populations always move left. In the anomaly that is Alberta, it will take quite a while for them to even reach the centre, but it will happen.
Meanwhile, their separatist movement has not yet reached 25% and has no real representation within a mainstream party, even while their most prominent political representatives have alienated themselves from the most populated parts of Canada.
That will solve itself with time, Vanni. Alberta is growing and larger urban populations always move left. In the anomaly that is Alberta, it will take quite a while for them to even reach the centre, but it will happen.
Meanwhile, their separatist movement has not yet reached 25% and has no real representation within a mainstream party, even while their most prominent political representatives have alienated themselves from the most populated parts of Canada.
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I watched a TVO interview,with a couple of journalists.
They were quite clear that Stephen Harper is dismissive of journalists and reporters...and they were not surprised that he doesn't receive "favourable" press coverage.
In this modern media age,any politician HAS to know that the 15 second sound bite is what makes it to the news...and playing the press is part of the game.
I watched a TVO interview,with a couple of journalists.
They were quite clear that Stephen Harper is dismissive of journalists and reporters...and they were not surprised that he doesn't receive "favourable" press coverage.
In this modern media age,any politician HAS to know that the 15 second sound bite is what makes it to the news...and playing the press is part of the game.
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This is your take on it. Why do you feel that you’re posting hard facts for the people of Canada?
Alberta has legitimate gripes with the dickheads in Ottawa, with the passing of time and the more monies they get from the oil this will have to be dealt with and Ottawa knows this.
For people like the liberals to deny this is just like everything else they do, not talking about it does not solve anything.
Quebec does not have the $$$ to say go fuck yourself but Alberta does, so mind your P & Q's.
Reverend Blair said:
This is your take on it. Why do you feel that you’re posting hard facts for the people of Canada?
Alberta has legitimate gripes with the dickheads in Ottawa, with the passing of time and the more monies they get from the oil this will have to be dealt with and Ottawa knows this.
For people like the liberals to deny this is just like everything else they do, not talking about it does not solve anything.
Quebec does not have the $$$ to say go fuck yourself but Alberta does, so mind your P & Q's.
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Well, we have seen a string of leftist policies in Canada for some time now. We are debt laden trying to support the social infrastructure we can't afford, all in the name of leftist ideology, not helping the poor. We can't afford to run health care in Ontario anymore, and yet were being forced to give 23 billion dollars or so a year to support the rest of Canada. Go figure.
The left/unions sunk Ontario Hydro 30 billion dollars in debt. Of coarse they don't pay for it, the little guy does, and the Ontario government had to take on some of this debt itself. These are the policies of the left...the hidden agenda if you will. Soak the citizens for everything you can regardless of the consequences. Teachers unions are a fine example of the greed that exists on the left. Teachers in Ontario are NDP supporters, (unless they have to vote liberal to keep the conservatives out). Look at the amounts of money these people make....all in the name of "the kids". They complain there aren’t enough text books in the classrooms, yet they get raises twice a year, and want all there sick days to be reimbursed to them at retirement...it has little to do with the kids, and everything to do with more money in their pockets, regardless of the state of the public education system. If you’re unsatisfied with public education, too bad, even if you send your kids to a private school, you still pay for the public system. Must be nice to be a leftist…have your cake, eat it too, then eat my piece, and if I’m reluctant to up my piece of cake, call me greedy.
The hidden agenda of the left is to bankrupt the country, its institutions, and citizens.....So since we have started to see the light of day, neo-cons are saying screw you, if that’s the game your going to play....were taking the marbles away. I will support the neo-cons in Canada, rather than the neo-communists.
Good morning all!
Reverend Blair said:
Well, we have seen a string of leftist policies in Canada for some time now. We are debt laden trying to support the social infrastructure we can't afford, all in the name of leftist ideology, not helping the poor. We can't afford to run health care in Ontario anymore, and yet were being forced to give 23 billion dollars or so a year to support the rest of Canada. Go figure.
The left/unions sunk Ontario Hydro 30 billion dollars in debt. Of coarse they don't pay for it, the little guy does, and the Ontario government had to take on some of this debt itself. These are the policies of the left...the hidden agenda if you will. Soak the citizens for everything you can regardless of the consequences. Teachers unions are a fine example of the greed that exists on the left. Teachers in Ontario are NDP supporters, (unless they have to vote liberal to keep the conservatives out). Look at the amounts of money these people make....all in the name of "the kids". They complain there aren’t enough text books in the classrooms, yet they get raises twice a year, and want all there sick days to be reimbursed to them at retirement...it has little to do with the kids, and everything to do with more money in their pockets, regardless of the state of the public education system. If you’re unsatisfied with public education, too bad, even if you send your kids to a private school, you still pay for the public system. Must be nice to be a leftist…have your cake, eat it too, then eat my piece, and if I’m reluctant to up my piece of cake, call me greedy.
The hidden agenda of the left is to bankrupt the country, its institutions, and citizens.....So since we have started to see the light of day, neo-cons are saying screw you, if that’s the game your going to play....were taking the marbles away. I will support the neo-cons in Canada, rather than the neo-communists.
Good morning all!
That's not my take on it, it is a sociological pattern that we've seen throughout history.
Everybody has legitimate gripes with Ottawa. Alberta thinks that its money entitles it to more votes though. That is inherently undemocratic and a non-starter.
No. We've been suffering through right-wing cuts since Mulroney took power. That is a long time ago.