RE: Sponsorship Program -
They didn't have any documentation showing that he knew. It's even possible that he didn't know, actually. Do you understand how political campaigns work, tibear. Chretien doesn't sign cheques for lawn signs, that's handled by people within the party.
Do you understand how government works? Budgets are allocated, programs are set up, and then operations are carried out. The PM doesn't sit there micro-managing each part of each program.
Do you know what self-fulfilling prophecy is, tibear? Those of you on the right have been pushing the idea that all politicians are crooks that you are well on your way to creating just that. Private industry is certainly no less crooked than politics though...padded expense accounts, nepotism, the whole deal.
Chretien was sitting in front of a judge that had made prejudicial statements against him to the press. That judge's wife works for the same law firm as Brian Mulroney. The prosecutor is a decades-old political foe of Chretien who also used to work for Mulroney.
Forget about "real courtrooms", this thing has been an over-priced political farce since the start and has gone on for far too long and cost far too much. Chretien pointed that out, then he nailed Gomery for being an idiot.
Not from my perspective. Remember the Conservative's ad saying that the Liberals support child porn. That was an outright lie and they knew it. Harper had them pull the ad, but he was never man enough to apologize for it.
That came about because the Liberals wouldn't support a poorly thought-out Alliance bill that would have defined century's-old pieces of art as child porn, and had parents arrested for taking pictures of their kids in the tub.
The bill was puritanical piece of crap based on religious extremism so it failed.
I'm going by what the economists said, tibear. Had you paid attention you would have found that most endorsed the NDP platform as being workable. You would have found that none without direct ties to the Conservatives endorsed Harper's platform.
Oh come on. Alliance members were taking out PC memberships so they could vote twice. What the hell is that? Besides being a crooked mess, I mean. What about the backroom deal between the weasel-faced boy and Harper? Was that the honest democratic process that Harper likes to pretend the Conservatives value?
Actually the findings were that there was political interference from the PMO, but not from Chretien. The argument was that the RCMP would have acted the same way anyway. Given their growing reputation as jack-booted stormtroopers they likely would have too. Besides that, in the case of the pepperspraying incident it was not investigated by disinterested third party.
You are trying to change the subject because you are having trouble refuting facts again though. Since the RCMP had built enough of a case in the ad scandal to begin pressing charges and were only peripherally involved in the scandal itself it is quite a different matter.
They didn't have any documentation showing that he knew. It's even possible that he didn't know, actually. Do you understand how political campaigns work, tibear. Chretien doesn't sign cheques for lawn signs, that's handled by people within the party.
Do you understand how government works? Budgets are allocated, programs are set up, and then operations are carried out. The PM doesn't sit there micro-managing each part of each program.
Do you know what self-fulfilling prophecy is, tibear? Those of you on the right have been pushing the idea that all politicians are crooks that you are well on your way to creating just that. Private industry is certainly no less crooked than politics though...padded expense accounts, nepotism, the whole deal.
Chretien was sitting in front of a judge that had made prejudicial statements against him to the press. That judge's wife works for the same law firm as Brian Mulroney. The prosecutor is a decades-old political foe of Chretien who also used to work for Mulroney.
Forget about "real courtrooms", this thing has been an over-priced political farce since the start and has gone on for far too long and cost far too much. Chretien pointed that out, then he nailed Gomery for being an idiot.
Not from my perspective. Remember the Conservative's ad saying that the Liberals support child porn. That was an outright lie and they knew it. Harper had them pull the ad, but he was never man enough to apologize for it.
That came about because the Liberals wouldn't support a poorly thought-out Alliance bill that would have defined century's-old pieces of art as child porn, and had parents arrested for taking pictures of their kids in the tub.
The bill was puritanical piece of crap based on religious extremism so it failed.
I'm going by what the economists said, tibear. Had you paid attention you would have found that most endorsed the NDP platform as being workable. You would have found that none without direct ties to the Conservatives endorsed Harper's platform.
Oh come on. Alliance members were taking out PC memberships so they could vote twice. What the hell is that? Besides being a crooked mess, I mean. What about the backroom deal between the weasel-faced boy and Harper? Was that the honest democratic process that Harper likes to pretend the Conservatives value?
Actually the findings were that there was political interference from the PMO, but not from Chretien. The argument was that the RCMP would have acted the same way anyway. Given their growing reputation as jack-booted stormtroopers they likely would have too. Besides that, in the case of the pepperspraying incident it was not investigated by disinterested third party.
You are trying to change the subject because you are having trouble refuting facts again though. Since the RCMP had built enough of a case in the ad scandal to begin pressing charges and were only peripherally involved in the scandal itself it is quite a different matter.
