Smearing chavez american lies!
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RE: Smearing chavez ameri
Not many examples of an economically successful capitalist government either, MMMikey.
Not many examples of an economically successful capitalist government either, MMMikey.
RE: Smearing chavez ameri
Chavez is just implementing programs that we already have though, MMMikey. Medical care, education, infrastrucure. The furthest left thing he has done is the land reforms, and he has gone out of his way not to shut down productive private businesses with those.
By the way, Chavez does not consider himself a socialist, at least in the way that you and other conservatives improperly use the word, and there really isn't much to show that he is. He believes in private ownership and free enterprise. He calls his movement the Bolivarian Revolution.
Of course if you'd been following Chavez's career, you would have known that.
Chavez is just implementing programs that we already have though, MMMikey. Medical care, education, infrastrucure. The furthest left thing he has done is the land reforms, and he has gone out of his way not to shut down productive private businesses with those.
By the way, Chavez does not consider himself a socialist, at least in the way that you and other conservatives improperly use the word, and there really isn't much to show that he is. He believes in private ownership and free enterprise. He calls his movement the Bolivarian Revolution.
Of course if you'd been following Chavez's career, you would have known that.
don't ruin you considerable credibility with stupid comments like that Rev.... I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about Venezuela, or Chavez and his 'revolution'. Frankly, I don't care either. I hope that he does bring some good to the country. But don't be some feckin gullible to believe that he walks on water... that he has finally found the elusive "third way". Sorry, I'm not buying. We've both seen this story before many times. A great white hope, rising up to free his people from poverty, to spit in the face of globalization and capitalism... Ten years from now I say he'll be in exile, living on the French Riviera, while the Venezuelan people are recovering from the economic collapse his 'reforms' brought on. Honestly, I'd love to be wrong for a change. :wink:
I think it is worth saying again.
I consider the following paragraphs
to be proof that American propaganda is wrong and obviously Chavez is doing something right. The Venezuelan economy was in terrible shape when Chavez took over. The growth has been phenomenal.
Venezuela's current setting is very favorable. The economy has sustained a remarkable growth rate in the last seven quarters. During 2004, Venezuela had the highest economic growth rate in the world, with a GDP growth of 17.8%. Following the same trend, gross fixed investment grew 43% in 2004. Unemployment rates have decreased steadily, up to June 2005.
In 2005 Venezuela's economy keeps showing signs of an extraordinary sustained growth. In the first two quarters of 2005, Venezuela's GDP grew 7.5% and 11.1% respectively, averaging a mid-year growth rate of 9.3%. It is worth noting that the non-oil sector is growing at higher rates in the same period, at 8.7% and 12.1% respectively. Thus, Venezuela's overall economy growth becomes the highest in the continent at mid-year 2005, followed by Argentina, and the second worldwide, just behind China.
I consider the following paragraphs
to be proof that American propaganda is wrong and obviously Chavez is doing something right. The Venezuelan economy was in terrible shape when Chavez took over. The growth has been phenomenal.
Venezuela's current setting is very favorable. The economy has sustained a remarkable growth rate in the last seven quarters. During 2004, Venezuela had the highest economic growth rate in the world, with a GDP growth of 17.8%. Following the same trend, gross fixed investment grew 43% in 2004. Unemployment rates have decreased steadily, up to June 2005.
In 2005 Venezuela's economy keeps showing signs of an extraordinary sustained growth. In the first two quarters of 2005, Venezuela's GDP grew 7.5% and 11.1% respectively, averaging a mid-year growth rate of 9.3%. It is worth noting that the non-oil sector is growing at higher rates in the same period, at 8.7% and 12.1% respectively. Thus, Venezuela's overall economy growth becomes the highest in the continent at mid-year 2005, followed by Argentina, and the second worldwide, just behind China.
The Americans would always rather deal with one despot greedy for their crumbs rather than millions seeking freedom from american economic oppression
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Well, most in America think a democracy is more stable to deal with even if those democracies have poison substituting for fairness.
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don't ruin you considerable credibility with stupid comments like that Rev.... I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about Venezuela, or Chavez and his 'revolution'. Frankly, I don't care either. I hope that he does bring some good to the country. But don't be some feckin gullible to believe that he walks on water... that he has finally found the elusive "third way". Sorry, I'm not buying. We've both seen this story before many times. A great white hope, rising up to free his people from poverty, to spit in the face of globalization and capitalism... Ten years from now I say he'll be in exile, living on the French Riviera, while the Venezuelan people are recovering from the economic collapse his 'reforms' brought on. Honestly, I'd love to be wrong for a change.
---------------------------------MMMike
Your remarks were worth repeating MMMike.
Exactly my sentiments.
-----------------------PoisonPete2---------------
Well, most in America think a democracy is more stable to deal with even if those democracies have poison substituting for fairness.
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don't ruin you considerable credibility with stupid comments like that Rev.... I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about Venezuela, or Chavez and his 'revolution'. Frankly, I don't care either. I hope that he does bring some good to the country. But don't be some feckin gullible to believe that he walks on water... that he has finally found the elusive "third way". Sorry, I'm not buying. We've both seen this story before many times. A great white hope, rising up to free his people from poverty, to spit in the face of globalization and capitalism... Ten years from now I say he'll be in exile, living on the French Riviera, while the Venezuelan people are recovering from the economic collapse his 'reforms' brought on. Honestly, I'd love to be wrong for a change.
---------------------------------MMMike
Your remarks were worth repeating MMMike.
Exactly my sentiments.
He walks on water compared to bush...and more the american government tries to smear him...try to undermine his democratic elected government, the more people will elevate him. I mean...go back to kindergarden 101
RE: Smearing chavez ameri
MMMike's remarks were and are based on ignorance of the situation in Venezuela. He freely admits that he doesn't know what's happening down there. He prefers to believe the version being put forth by the Republican spinners here, who have no credibility when it comes to this issue at all.
If MMMikey had done his research he wouldn't be saying that we've seen this before, because we haven't. What we've seen so far is that things are improving under a democratically elected leader. If some have trouble accepting that in spite of the evidence, then I suggest that they have reasons for their refusal to look at the facts.
MMMike's remarks were and are based on ignorance of the situation in Venezuela. He freely admits that he doesn't know what's happening down there. He prefers to believe the version being put forth by the Republican spinners here, who have no credibility when it comes to this issue at all.
If MMMikey had done his research he wouldn't be saying that we've seen this before, because we haven't. What we've seen so far is that things are improving under a democratically elected leader. If some have trouble accepting that in spite of the evidence, then I suggest that they have reasons for their refusal to look at the facts.
Rev you're really hurting my feelings. 
We can't all be 'experts' on Venezualan affairs like you apparently are. You believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. Let's get together in a few years to see who's right. I'll bet you a beer! :beer: Just don't welch later! :wink:
We can't all be 'experts' on Venezualan affairs like you apparently are. You believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. Let's get together in a few years to see who's right. I'll bet you a beer! :beer: Just don't welch later! :wink:
Do the reading, MMMikey. Check out the facts. Venezuela is doing well economically. Chavez is not a communist dictator, no matter how desperate some are to paint him that way.
If you really want see Venezuela do well, then support democratic principles there. No matter how much you may dislike Chavez, he is far more of a democrat and doing far better than those who preceded him and those that the US would put back into power.
no1important said:
Answer - nothing new about America not maintaining its contracts. Just look at NAFTA. It appears Chavez expects resiprosity. Something Canada is afraid of demanding.