If he fought and lost?
That's the question.
Personally, I don't know if I could take the plea.
Once that stink is on you, it never comes off.
Ski instructor held tot's ***** to help him pee
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If he fought and lost?
That's the question.
Personally, I don't know if I could take the plea.
Once that stink is on you, it never comes off.
Yep and that will not change, some people will call this guy a pedo no matter what. I knew a guy accused of somethinmg by a neighbor and he was completely exonerated after it was proven that the neighbor had fabricated the whole story. There were still people who thought he was a pedo, that in fact perpetuated the story. I looked at the case and knew he wasn't, saw the angst it caused him and how absolutely paranoid he became.
I still couldn't roll over for this.
I dont get it, did the kid ask him to help him or did he do it on his own accord thinking it was necessary? Either way the kids a minor and isnt old enough to make the decision on his own, hence a minor. THe old fart is a paedo, who else hands out candy to kids in the bathroom while touching their private parts....
Was i the only one who payed attention in school where we were educated to not let anyone touch us in that fashion? At any age before we became old enough to understand the difference?
And dont come at me with that frost bite ****, let him piss his pants and when he gets to the bottom on the hill send him to his parents. Frostbite does not happen instantaneously. Thats less embarrassing than getting caught touching a little boys pecker.
Ok ill concede the guy pleaded common assault to touching a little kids *****.... Whatever
:lol: I will answer this with a really? I would sure as hell have a problem, a big problem touching a minors ***** though.
The crown dropped the rest of the charges, alright clearly everything i learned growing up from school and my parents was wrong.
OMG the guy cried and was apologetic when he GOT CAUGHT, not after he did it the first time because he was forth coming from the start with his parents. He did it 3 times in different locations and kept doing it until he was caught while giving him Candy in the bathroom. If he admitted to it after the first time ok maybe, but repeatedly especially in an actual Bathroom where his own parents could have been there to do it instead of him come on.... His parents would have been at the ski hill and hence close enough to the facilities to take care of their own child in the manner you guys have said you had before.
Repeatedly touching another kids ***** who is not biologically yours while not informing the biological parents as to what your doing is a huge stink and i would question his intent. By not being honest and forthcoming from the start is a logical reason to question his intent. The fact alone that the mothers own child said she would never forgive him is proof enough that what he did was wrong, especially because he only became apologetic after he was caught.
Was i the only one who payed attention in school where we were educated to not let anyone touch us in that fashion? At any age before we became old enough to understand the difference?
And dont come at me with that frost bite ****, let him piss his pants and when he gets to the bottom on the hill send him to his parents. Frostbite does not happen instantaneously. Thats less embarrassing than getting caught touching a little boys pecker.
Ok ill concede the guy pleaded common assault to touching a little kids *****.... Whatever
:lol: I will answer this with a really? I would sure as hell have a problem, a big problem touching a minors ***** though.
The crown dropped the rest of the charges, alright clearly everything i learned growing up from school and my parents was wrong.
OMG the guy cried and was apologetic when he GOT CAUGHT, not after he did it the first time because he was forth coming from the start with his parents. He did it 3 times in different locations and kept doing it until he was caught while giving him Candy in the bathroom. If he admitted to it after the first time ok maybe, but repeatedly especially in an actual Bathroom where his own parents could have been there to do it instead of him come on.... His parents would have been at the ski hill and hence close enough to the facilities to take care of their own child in the manner you guys have said you had before.
Repeatedly touching another kids ***** who is not biologically yours while not informing the biological parents as to what your doing is a huge stink and i would question his intent. By not being honest and forthcoming from the start is a logical reason to question his intent. The fact alone that the mothers own child said she would never forgive him is proof enough that what he did was wrong, especially because he only became apologetic after he was caught.
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Pedophiles don't usually make it to 55 without incident. I only know what was written in the article and without further evidence it sounds very suspect. But hey, I'm looking at it through rose colored glasses.
When someone hasnt been forthcoming about what they have been doing to someone elses kid to the kids parents, i think being pragmatic is the viable route as opposed to thinking of the most positive side to the situation. He wasnt forthcoming and as such he was hiding it cause he wasnt honest about his actions until he was caught, not cool.
Like i said before if he said something after the first time it happened, then yes there is grounds on the basis of character and honesty that he had no intent of anything.
There have been people who were charged in their senior years for a sexual assault they have committed when they themselves were younger. It is possible, and its happened plenty of times. Former coaches, priests etc...
My stance is that you never touch anyone. Never a minor, and only someone older than a minor if they invite you into their space.
Is my logic faulty?
Actually gerryh, im looking at you and calling you out because we have great history.
Is my logic faulty?
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I think if you follow my posts on this thread you will see that I do not endorse touching a kids junk. I also don't know that this guy is a pedophile or that he became so comfortable (after two years with the kid) that he thought nothing of helping him out. Helping someone pee, even three times, doesn't sound like molestation unless there are details being withheld.
We have to be very careful today. People have been charged with child porn for posting a pic of their newborn in the bath.
I think it's based on emotion, rather than pragmatism if you are talking about your conclusion that this guy is a pedophile..
Not really emotion, just because i post quite quickly and i mean what i write doesnt mean i think based on emotion. Im far from stupid but im not here to prove myself to anyone.
Ive given quite a few good points that are practial.
Kept it a secret - Got caught - started crying around cause he got caught, now he is the victim?
He kept doing it when there were other options (like informing the parents of the situation) - never chose to use those options (like informing the parents that they should be doing it themselves or give their kid a DIAPER) - kept doing it (treated the kid as a monopoly whether it was his intention or not)... As such the parents had no idea of what was going on...
Hence one has to question his intent based on the shady method in which he handled the situation, which would lead most to believe that he had other intentions.
After the first time the parents should have been informed. He never took the time to work out a solution or communicate with the parents but instead took the situation into his own hands. No pun intended.
That's looking at it practically imo....
Just because you find my delivery intense doesn't take away from my points
You could only criticize my delivery (semantics) instead of countering my points?
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I am in no way forming judgment on this particular guy but yes, many pedophiles get away with it until later in life. I can't count on one hand alone how many stories have come to light in recent years about over 50 men getting caught....just in my city alone.
You make some good points. I think the whole issue is a mess.
-No 2 year old should be taking ski lessons, imo. They're just not steady enough on their feet yet.
-The mother was remiss not only in sending the kid for lessons but not putting a diaper on him to ensure he didn't pee himself.
Most 2 year olds are newly trained, if at all and not good at saying when they have to go.
-The ski instructor should specify an appropriate age range for kids to begin skiing
-The ski instructor should have informed the parent of the 'pee' problem.
Im over it. I woke up thinking whoa did i hit the internet last night? Turns out i did. I guess 4 in the morning black out drunk makes you come off as a little emotional :lol: , Still an effective speaker when not coherent.
The issue is a mess and if the guy had been honest from the start it would have gotten less FUBARED.
He should be charged with 3 counts of assault on a minor not 1 in my opinion, but im not sure a child's testimony at that age can be used in the court of law.
Either way he ****ed up, and he is the emotional one now :lol:
The issue is a mess and if the guy had been honest from the start it would have gotten less FUBARED.
He should be charged with 3 counts of assault on a minor not 1 in my opinion, but im not sure a child's testimony at that age can be used in the court of law.
Either way he ****ed up, and he is the emotional one now :lol:
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Calling me out eh.... what a big man you are. :roll:
I didn't read anything stating that he kept anything secret, that would be you reading in facts that aren't there.
Over a 2 year period he helped the kid take a leak when he had his snowsuit on, that's it, only those times.
He gave candy to ALL the kids, not just the little guy in question, and yet, after 35 years of being a kids ski instructor this is the only report.
So, is your reasoning faulty? Of course it is, you are still batting a thousand.
Now, did that make you feel all better? :roll:
what a fu cking maroon.
and your excuse the rest of the time would be........... or is that your excuse all the time?
The article
you wrote
What you said and the article posted are two different things. He did have his snow suit on which is the reason he reached in and touched him.
Why not be honest in the first place? It wasnt a secret until he was caught
you wrote
What you said and the article posted are two different things. He did have his snow suit on which is the reason he reached in and touched him.
Why not be honest in the first place? It wasnt a secret until he was caught
When questioned by his Oakville mother, the boy said Green had helped him pee three times — twice in the trees on a ski slope and once in a bathroom.
“He told his mom that Green opened his ski suit and held his privates to help him go pee so he didn’t pee on himself,”