Should we redraw Quebec's borders along linguistic lines?

[Machjo]

Should we allow all majority-French-speaking municipalities outside of Quebec to hold a referendum to join Quebec and if it votes to join and Quebec wants it, Quebec can take it?

Of course we'd do the same for majority-English-speaking municipalities too.

In all cases though, the municipality could also vote for a conditional transfer. For example, a majority-French-speaking municipality coudl vote to join Quebec on condition that Bill 101 will not touch the public schools and private businesses in that municipality. Again, it would up to Quebec whether it accepts that municipality under those conditions.

Your thoughts on this?

 

[Queb]

Your thoughts on this?

no

because it make no sense.

 

[Machjo]

no

because it make no sense.

So you would support Quebec buying Labrador without consulting the locals but would oppose giving Labrador municipalities a vote to join Quebec for Free?

What I imagine happening is parts of Labrador and Eastern Ontario would join Quebec. Parts of English Quebec would join neighbouring provinces. Quebec's Far North might vote to join Nunavut. Only possiblities, maybe even with conditions.

 

[Queb]

So you would support Quebec buying Labrador without consulting the locals but would oppose giving Labrador municipalities a vote to join Quebec for Free?

Oh no. i don't believe in that possibility.

By the way, Quebecers never vote to be federated under canada... and we never vote to give a gift of 30% of our territory to Newfoundland.... But, no I don'y believe that Newfoundland will give it back to us ;-)

 

[Machjo]

Oh no. i don't believe in that possibility.

By the way, Quebecers never vote to be federated under canada... and we never vote to give a gift of 30% of our territory to Newfoundland.... But, no I don'y believe that Newfoundland will give it back to us ;-)

All Quebec would need to do is ask for a referendum. I doubt Newfoundland would want to keep municipalities that don't want to stay.

Same with Ontario.

However, I imagine they'd be asking for similar referenda in Quebec. Canadians do believe in democracy.

And Canadians believe in saving money on taxes too. The less translation the better.

 

[Queb]

All Quebec would need to do is ask for a referendum. I doubt Newfoundland would want to keep municipalities that don't want to stay.

Same with Ontario.

However, I imagine they'd be asking for similar referenda in Quebec. Canadians do believe in democracy.

And Canadians believe in saving money on taxes too. The less translation the better.

why not by land ?

Can I annex my land to Bahamas if I do a referendum in my home ?

 

[Machjo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Newfoundland_and_Labrador#Languages

According to this, 0.38% of Labrador speaks French.

Going by municipal elections, Quebecwould be lucky if one municipality votes to join Quebec.

You'd have better luck with Eastern Ontario.

why not by land ?

Can I annex my land to Bahamas if I do a referendum in my home ?

What do you mean?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Where do you draw the big, squiggly line between Français and Joual?

 

[Kreskin]

Build a Quebec wall and have Mexico pay for it.

 

[Johnnny]

My thoughts?

You need to get out more

 

[Machjo]

Where do you draw the big, squiggly line between Français and Joual?

I honestly don't know Labrador well enough to know how such a hypothetical referendum would go.

Judging from the stats though, no doubt most of Labrador woudl want to stay with NF. As for majority-French municipalities, who knows.

As for Eastern Ontario where my family is from, the majority is French-speaking but somewhat anti-Quebec, so even then it would be a tough sell in most municipalities, but the language demographics would make it somewhat more promising. Their beefs are often on the tax front.

 

[Curious Cdn]

I honestly don't know Labrador well enough to know how such a hypothetical referendum would go.

Judging from the stats though, no doubt most of Labrador woudl want to stay with NF. As for majority-French municipalities, who knows.

As for Eastern Ontario where my family is from, the majority is French-speaking but somewhat anti-Quebec, so even then it would be a tough sell in most municipalities, but the language demographics would make it somewhat more promising. Their beefs are often on the tax front.

I've sailed along the Labrador Atlantic coast some and have visied some of the Outports. I was in Red Bay Labrador a year or two only before they discovered all of the archeology, there.Those settlements .. and the ones on the Quebec side, like Harrington Harbour have been settled by English speakers for a long, long time. The French never settled there, at all. The Basque and Spanish did but never the French. Jacques Cartier stopped in there a few decades after Cabot and his boatload of Bristolmen did, so even that historic claim is nought.

 

[Remington1]

Your asking if Ontario and New Brunswick would be willing to get rid of their French speaking Ontarian's and Acadian perhaps? Well, I think the Acadians and Bilingual Ontarian's would have an issue with this purging, plus the province themselves would never ever contemplate such a strange proposition.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Build a Quebec wall and have Mexico pay for it.

Geez ... another corrupt Quebec construction project with massive cost over-runs and new concrete swimming pools popping up all over Ville St. Michel.

Your asking if Ontario and New Brunswick would be willing to get rid of their French speaking Ontarian's and Acadian perhaps? Well, I think the Acadians and Bilingual Ontarian's would have an issue with this purging, plus the province themselves would never ever contemplate such a strange proposition.

Actually, that Acadian population in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia gives the place condiderable pizzaz.


Of course, so do we Celts.

 

[Queb]

Where do you draw the big, squiggly line between Français and Joual?

Where do you draw the big, squiggly line between english and slang?

What do you mean?[/QUOTE] I mean that municipality is not a state as a federated state is.

 

[DaSleeper]

And I thought Queb started all the Quebec troll threads....

 

[MHz]

It should be by all residents, Trappers would most likely qualify as residents as long as they have been making improvements to the area they trap. They would be the road builders in a future territory. Put it under any Provinces control and they become a welfare state as that is income for the Province that gets the land and the people. If anybody gets her it should be the one right across the Hunson Bay as they would have the most in common.

 

[Queb]

And I thought Queb started all the Quebec troll threads....

I am impressed by the quality of your argument ;-)

 

[Curious Cdn]

Where do you draw the big, squiggly line between english and slang?

English is a plastic and fluid laguage, ever changing that is defined by usage. If English speakers invent or borrow a word or expression, it is officially English and not "slang". The experts on the English language such as Oxford University or Merriam-Webster are mere chronicallers who collect new words and expressions, constantly. In 2014, there were 1,025,109 known English words and that number grows every year. We do not have an Academy of English, telling us what is English... how to speak ... what to think. Ironically, the lingua franca of the planet is currently English. French is just too limiting, constricted, controlled to have led to the explosion of creativity of the English speaking world over the last few centuries. French tongues and minds are constrained in an Académie française straight jacket.

 

[MHz]

We are pretty good at fine-print loopholes also so be careful, we might have become almost as good at it as the French are.