I wish I could offer you a warm coffee or cup of tea Amber. A nice sit down and chat would be lovely after hearing you share something so painful. I'm so sorry you went through that. My heart and all the healing energy I can scrounge up today go out to you.
Should a man go to jail if he's caught with child porn in his house?
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I wish I could offer you a warm coffee or cup of tea Amber. A nice sit down and chat would be lovely after hearing you share something so painful. I'm so sorry you went through that. My heart and all the healing energy I can scrounge up today go out to you.
You don't understand the difference between acting and using special effects for the sake of scaring people, and raping and exploiting children for sexual gratification?
You explained AFTER the post to which I replied, so forgive me for going through in the order in which the posts occur. But, while you informed Durka of your view on the subject, you still have failed to note the ways in which they are drastically different. The purpose for which movies are made is not strictly to cause arousal in someone at seeing their subject matter. That is where they and child pornography differ drastically. Child porn is made specifically for the sexual entertainment of their audience.
The recent release of a movie containing a rape scene of a child, is not pornographic in its detail of that occurence. They do not show her genitals, they do not show penetration. What they show is what happens in the world every day, children being abused and exploited, and it is not to arouse you, it is to mortify you. What you do with it once they put their message out there is beyond their power.
I agree with what you just said. Of course they're different. But I'm saying it doesn't matter. A lot of people out there don't care if it's acting. They like what they see and start fantasizing about it and maybe one day, they might end up R@ping or murdering someone. And with the way Amber Eyes was acting, then she should totally be for having murder scenes in a movie illegal. And that's why I brought up the movie thing.
How many people act out on scenes they see in a horror movie?
What percentage of people who view child porn go on to abuse children?
Raw, it is INEVITABLE that people will pick up fetishes from things in the world around them, and act out on them in inappropriate ways, possibly raping and abusing someone as a result of what their twisted minds do. That is something no one can accomodate for. We can't sterilize all media to a point where no one could possibly be turned on by anything in it. It would be ridiculous to even try. What we CAN do however, is shut down areas which are based PURELY on victimizing and harming people. Pornography made at the expense of children is one of those areas. people don't make it for any other reason, and people don't view it for any other reason.
And, no, you can't extrapolate what Amber should think of one issue based on what she thinks of another. You won't earn much respect jumping from child porn to violence in movies to animal rights and back again. If you raise the issue of child porn, expect that people will want you to stay on that issue, not bounce back and forth.
"How many people act out on scenes they see in a horror movie?"
Probably more than you think. But it's the point that some people do that.
"What percentage of people who view child porn go on to abuse children?"
Probably over 99%, but you see I'm not defending the molesters. I don't think they should go to jail. I think they should get the death penalty. But that .00001% that hasn't actually done anything and never will, is who I'm defending for now. I'm not saying they shouldn't be investigated, but putting them in jail just for a picture they didn't take is going overboard.
Probably more than you think. But it's the point that some people do that.
"What percentage of people who view child porn go on to abuse children?"
Probably over 99%, but you see I'm not defending the molesters. I don't think they should go to jail. I think they should get the death penalty. But that .00001% that hasn't actually done anything and never will, is who I'm defending for now. I'm not saying they shouldn't be investigated, but putting them in jail just for a picture they didn't take is going overboard.
"And, no, you can't extrapolate what Amber should think of one issue based on what she thinks of another. You won't earn much respect jumping from child porn to violence in movies to animal rights and back again. If you raise the issue of child porn, expect that people will want you to stay on that issue, not bounce back and forth."
I'm not changing the subject. Amber was acting like every single person who downloads child porn will eventually r@pe a child. So I brought up the fact that there are a lot of idiots who take movies seriously. so by her attitude we should ban R@pe and murder scenes so then those idiots won't be exposed to it.
And a lot of people on here used the "By looking at it, you support it, meaning you're just as bad."
So I brought up the animal argument "By eating meat, you support the deaths of millions of innocent creatures, meaning you're basically a murder"
I'm not changing the subject. Amber was acting like every single person who downloads child porn will eventually r@pe a child. So I brought up the fact that there are a lot of idiots who take movies seriously. so by her attitude we should ban R@pe and murder scenes so then those idiots won't be exposed to it.
And a lot of people on here used the "By looking at it, you support it, meaning you're just as bad."
So I brought up the animal argument "By eating meat, you support the deaths of millions of innocent creatures, meaning you're basically a murder"
Okay, so it would be okay to assume, since you think viewing child porn is okay, that you think viewing 'crush videos' is alright? You know, where gorgeous women put kittens on the ground and walk all over them in highheels, crushing their heads with their stilettos, popping their eyeballs out and stomping them into the pavement. That would be totally fine to get off to and keep in a collection on your comp, because you didn't take part in the actual video, or the actual death of the kitten?
Perhaps some day, when your brain starts to function, you will understand what is wrong with possessing child pornography. Until then, enjoy.
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I wonder if you know what it feels like, having been betrayed by such an evil man, and knowing that there's videos out there exploiting children, that are making it easier for more people to abuse these innocent people. I wonder if you know what it feels like to be so abused. I doubt it. If somebody had taken a video of that man doing what he did to me and sold it do an individual, who likewise thougth that MY PAIN was SEXY, I would want him dead. Unfortuantely, I can't have him dead, so in jail will have to do. Atleast then he can't get off on the idea of abuse.
I think that there is something seriously wrong with an individual who gets off on the suffering of innocent people. They should be charged, I have no doubt about that. Take them away from society so that they cannot act on their desires. Horror movies aren't real, and people know that when they watch them, just like they know the abuse is real in child porn. Fortunately, in most of the movies out there such murder scenes are acted out, and no innocent individual is being abused. I don't think movies that use acting should be illegalized, and I don't think people that watch legal movies should go to jail.
I wonder if you know what it feels like, having been betrayed by such an evil man, and knowing that there's videos out there exploiting children, that are making it easier for more people to abuse these innocent people. I wonder if you know what it feels like to be so abused. I doubt it. If somebody had taken a video of that man doing what he did to me and sold it do an individual, who likewise thougth that MY PAIN was SEXY, I would want him dead. Unfortuantely, I can't have him dead, so in jail will have to do. Atleast then he can't get off on the idea of abuse.
I think that there is something seriously wrong with an individual who gets off on the suffering of innocent people. They should be charged, I have no doubt about that. Take them away from society so that they cannot act on their desires. Horror movies aren't real, and people know that when they watch them, just like they know the abuse is real in child porn. Fortunately, in most of the movies out there such murder scenes are acted out, and no innocent individual is being abused. I don't think movies that use acting should be illegalized, and I don't think people that watch legal movies should go to jail.
We could do with a whole lot less violence, gratuitous nudity and adult themes in most popular media these days. Chop and dice horror movies, glorifying criminals and we wonder why there is so much violence in our society today.
IMO, the whole thing is ridiculous, I won't watch what I don't want to, nor will I watch what disg usts me. Grown people looking at pictures of naked kids as an aid to get their rocks off is abnormal behavior and it disg usts me. Same thing with interspecies sex and a few other sociopathic behaviors. Watching violence and sex doesn't disturb me. I was told by a five year old one time while he and a couple friends were watching a moderately violent movie that "It's just pretend stuff, you know. It isn't real."
Nice of you to bring up that point. Do bring us a full report when your done. Thanks:wave: