Seems everyone has seperation plans...

[Musicman]

Re: RE: Seems everyone has se

Nah, we don't want to give them a complex.

Actually, if you look around the country at various public and private posts, there are a disproportionate number of people who grew up in Saskatchewan, or were educated there, or started their careers there. I don't really know why that is, but it is.

I guess I don't understand then why they all seem to leave. Why did you leave?

 

[mrmom2]

I get a kick out of dirt farmers thinking there smarter than everybody else :lol: :lol: The smart ones leave to find intelligence

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Seems everyone has se

Dirt farmers? See, that's the difference right there...nobody in Saskatchewan is backwards enough to think that you farm dirt.

 

[Jay]

The real reason they leave, of course, is that people in Alberta, BC, and Ontario are obviously in dire need of intelligent, well-educated people to help them. :wink:

:lol: good one.

 

[missile]

So,they're enticed by the bright lights of the big cities and are just sick and tired of all the wide open spaces. Of course,our people just leave for the big bucks to be made in Alberta.

 

[no1important]

RE: Seems everyone has se

The thing is when "Canada opened up" in the mid to late 1800's people flocked to the praires and they were able to get a quarter section very cheap to farm and I guess over time they moved to other places in Canada.

6 of my 8 great grandparents all settled (from England) around Winnipeg(surrounding area) (I know winnipeg is not sask, but the point is the same) and 3 of 4 grandparents were born in Winnipeg(all in same hospital even) and all came to to Vancouver in the 30's before the war.

Many others did the same.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Seems everyone has se

Not everybody can inherit the farm. If they did, most farms would now be the size of the average suburban lot.

 

[mrmom2]

Yea thats true no1 and you can still get land there for damn near the same price .I've seen lots for a dollar :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[no1important]

RE: Seems everyone has se

Thats true. Back in the day a quarter section was more than enough to raise and support the family, grow crops and have some pigs, cows, chickens etc. Now a quarter section would be a large "hobby farm".

 

[Musicman]

So,they're enticed by the bright lights of the big cities and are just sick and tired of all the wide open spaces. Of course,our people just leave for the big bucks to be made in Alberta.

Is that the main reason Alberta's population is growing and Saskatchewans is going down? I mean, more money to be made in Alberta? Is it also true that a lot of maritimers are moving to Alberta for the jobs and money too?

This is fascinating stuff.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Seems everyone has se

Alberta has been through booms before. The bust always comes.

 

[Musicman]

Re: RE: Seems everyone has se

Alberta has been through booms before. The bust always comes.

I thought things would be different this time. No?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Seems everyone has se

Lemmee see...the ag sector still sucks, the mining industry is hurting the tourism industry and all of the diversifying they've done is tied to oil and gas.

The boom will last as long as oil prices remain high. That could be indefinitely, but I wouldn't bet on it. Since the numbers from the oil companies indicate that Kyoto would only cost 7 to 25 cents per barrel, ever wonder why the Alberta government is so against Kyoto? Because when alternative fuels come in, oil prices will drop.

 

[mrmom2]

That and have you ever been to Alberta 8O Not the nicest province in Canada as a matter of fact its down right ugly Lets not get in to the weather either :lol: Most people go make some quick cash and leave the place is pure hell :wink:

 

[Musicman]

That and have you ever been to Alberta 8O Not the nicest province in Canada as a matter of fact its down right ugly Lets not get in to the weather either :lol: Most people go make some quick cash and leave the place is pure hell :wink:

Yes, I have been to Alberta to see relatives. I found Alberta to be quite attratctive, clean cities, and when it is above freezing in January, it is hard to see how the weather is bad.

I asked Reverend Blair about this, but perhaps you could tell me why if Alberta is as bad as you claim, their population is increasing?

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[damngrumpy]

Most of the seperation crap comes from the right wing fringe of complainers, and whiners. It has been demonstrated time and again that even the majority of Quebecers would stay in confederation and complain, than divide the country into little kingdoms for the Americans to gobble up. Alberta is no different, they have a group of people with too much time on their hands, who for their own selfish reasons would like to see the breakup of the country. What these folks don't understand is, even if they won the right to form their own country, as people moved in, the direction of the country they formed would change and they would be back where they started. People came to the new world to start over, and to establish a government that was not oppressive. Today we have the gun laws, some unfair tax laws, well a tax on everything but air, shhhh we shouldn't mention the air is free, Martin will tax it.
The number of Canadians that want seperation in their region, don't really amount to a hill of beans.

 

[Canucklehead]

RE: Seems everyone has se

I say we should pre-emptively kick em in the ass and give the Natives a sweet land deal that includes the oil producing areas of the province of Alberta. (barring, of course, the possibility of Martin growing balls and trying to nationalise our natural resources) They could then take a cut, erm, surtax, of the existing oil fields output in $$, set up their own rigs with gov't assistance and sell it to Canadians at a reasonable rate. They make a chitload of cash, get some land back and the people of this country are able to purchase what is rightfully ours without being raped in the process. A win-win deal if you ask me, oh, unless you happen to be a whiney feckin conservative Albertan...in which case, please, feel free to head south or alternately...just go f*ck yourself.

 

[DoubleWitt]

Separating...

I think that gov's that opt for separation have jumped to the last resort to cover their lack of competence in political affairs. They're always proclaiming that separation is the solution to everything. To me, that's a rather naive attitude. Gov's will screw you after that happens as they forcefully convince you to blindly believe in their shortsighted projections. Gov's will and have always influenced the people to believe their campaigns. But the surprise is waiting after it is done. It's not always easy to be insightful in political affairs and know exactly what kind of consequences will follow but the consequences are inevitable. In most cases, political projections are on a trial and error basis. We will try to do this and we will try to do that - so basically, we'll see...And then, they often fall short of their promises!

It makes me think of the common trend in marital life. Today, as soon as there is a problem - well, goodbye! That's how it works out in the greater majority of marital separations. People no longer have the zazz to fix their personal problems and so they quickly opt out as a solution. According to studies nearly 80% of women who have separated or divorced have actually found the same problem with the new partner. Was separation the solution? Probably not - but that's the common trend today. In Quebec, the separation rate is continually soaring and is beyond control. The rate in Quebec is higher I believe than any other province - what a shame! And yet, this forceful trend in our society is moving into the political world. It's a reflection of how we live our personal lives. As soon as there is a problem between two provinces - that's it! I've had enough! Let's separate. Where is the maturity in the people today...? Personally, I will never back any separation plans.
That is only deception.

Have you ever heard the expression; "the family is the backbone of a nation"...? Well, if the families are all broken up, then the nation will break up. It's a sad situation.

DoubleWitt

 

[DoubleWitt]

Where are we headed with all this crap we see today...?
I really don't approve of all this separation talk...

DoubleWitt