Same-Sex Interfaith Couples Face Roadblock to Marriage in Judaism

[gerryh]

where do you see me saying that the institution should be FORCED to perform this marriage?


as for people's rights, that's up to the law - in that state they have a right to get married - don't know what the law is as to whether an institution can be compelled to perform the ceremony; whether it is or not is up to the law to determine

and I suppose you would have no problem with a "law" taking away an individuals religious freedom.

 

[gopher]

that does not answer my question which is where do you see me saying that the institution should be FORCED to perform this marriage?

 

[gerryh]

that does not answer my question which is where do you see me saying that the institution should be FORCED to perform this marriage?

It was clearly implied in what I quoted. Now answer the question.

 

[gopher]

you interpreted it that way without any justification for doing so

I leave it up to the law to determine what is legal

 

[gerryh]

you interpreted it that way without any justification for doing so

I leave it up to the law to determine what is legal

Really. So you were fine with homosexuals being discriminated against and even jailed when that was the law?

 

[SLM]

When Julia Spiegelman and Erina Donnelly, two teachers who met as undergraduates at Bryn Mawr, became engaged, they were looking forward to planning a wedding that included elements from both of their religions.


Ms. Spiegelman grew up attending a Reform synagogue in Andover, Mass., and Ms. Donnelly was raised a Roman Catholic.


The two women attend Jewish and Catholic services together, and they had hoped to find marriage officiants from both religions, which they did not think would be difficult. Most non-Orthodox rabbis officiate same-sex weddings, and while they could not expect to find a Catholic priest to officiate, they planned to ask a layperson from Dignity/Boston, a community of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Catholics, to take part.


So one Sabbath morning, they approached the rabbi at their Boston-area synagogue, a liberal congregation unaffiliated with any particular branch of Judaism.


But the rabbi told them that she could not perform the wedding. The problem was not that Ms. Spiegelman wanted to marry a woman — it was that she wanted to marry a non-Jewish woman.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/31/u...-face-a-roadblock-to-marriage-in-judaism.html

Wow, okay, so I think the lesson learned here is.....when one doesn't get one's way it should serve as a rallying cry of injustice? Yeah, maybe not.

There are chaplains who offer interfaith services, individuals who are well versed in the traditions of many different religious beliefs who can and will officiate at weddings of interfaith couples. Of course, that wouldn't generate headlines......

 

[gopher]

Really. So you were fine with homosexuals being discriminated against and even jailed when that was the law?

Can't speak for Canada but in the USA we have the Constitution and the equal protection clause - that's the law under all circumstances.

 

[gerryh]

Can't speak for Canada but in the USA we have the Constitution and the equal protection clause - that's the law under all circumstances.

Oh? are you saying Homosexuals were not discriminated against? Are you saying they weren't jailed?

 

[gopher]

Oh? are you saying Homosexuals were not discriminated against? Are you saying they weren't jailed?

I am saying they were not protected under EPC and that was clearly unconstitutional.