"Resurrection day"

[selfactivated]

gosh youre arrogant. you think you are the end of all knowledge. thats my opinion on you. i dont consider your type of thinking a source for any knoweldge. its just flakey and has nothing to do with christianity. i cant believe that 2000 years of catholic teaching is wrong cos i belive god guides the catholic church. how can anybody take seriously false religions that are not even that old?

Sweetheart......as so many tell me attach the thinking not the person. Using your logic I can say Pagan thinking is WAY older than catholocism so it beats out catholosism? No Paganism is A way not THE way and no matter how old it is it will always only be A way. Same with the Catholic church......it is A way of thinking not THE way of thinking.

You might think about appologising to AJ.......and if you dont like HIS way of thinking.......dont read it

 

[china]

2 Peter , Chapter 3 , verse 8

But do not ignore this one fact,that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a year.

New nemerology?

 

[china]

mapleleafgirl
are you saying sanctus dosent know his bible___________________________________________

Fact is that many of them don't .( I'm not being negative.)

 

[sanctus]

mapleleafgirl
are you saying sanctus dosent know his bible___________________________________________

Fact is that many of them don't .( I'm not being negative.)

That is not true. That is an unfounded rumour. The Catholic priesthood is well versed in the Scriptures, since it forms so much a part of our Liturgical and daily lives. Further, it is studied ad nauseum in Catholic seminaries.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

How about the number 360? Would not the number 12 fit perfectly into 360?

Jesus/God, is complete, whole, or as one. 360 is a whole circle, one circle and is divided, by 3: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and has 12 apostles in completing the whole.

I mean, those were just a few numbers that would indicate a divine connection, won’t you think?

No, I wouldn't.

12 months in a year, 365 days in a year, 7 day in a week are all indicatives of some structured plan that could only mean there is a higher intelligence, wouldn’t you think so?

No again, there are perfectly satisfactory natural explanations for all of those. The 12 months in a year and 7 days in a week are just human conventions rooted in history, and the year is not 365 days long. Why do you think we have leap years? They're to keep the calendar in time with the seasons, which is necessary because a year isn't really 365 days long.

And okay, so how about the number 360? Yes, 12 fits into it perfectly. So do a lot of other numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15...etc. So what? Why are 3 and 12 significant and the others aren't? If there had been 10 apostles and no Holy Spirit, only the two-in-one instead of three-in-one, you'd be making the same claims about 2 and 10. Why doesn't 7, the number of days in a week, fit into 360, or into 365? Why aren't the 12 months all the same length? Why isn't the year 360 days instead of being a little under 365¼ days? Why isn't the number of degrees in a radian (that's 360 degrees divided by 2π, a very convenient value in a lot of math and physics, where you can find thousands more apparent mystic coincidences) a nice round number instead of being 57.29577951... ? Why aren't π and e (2.71828..., the basis of natural logarithms that occurs in mathematical descriptions of growth and decay processes) nice round integers? You're just doing some selective thinking that suits your prejudices and adds nothing to your argument. Like I said, you won't impress a scientific mind with numerology.

 

[jimmoyer]

look3467, why are you so wedded to the idea of numerology ?

I recall Pythagoras began a Greek colony on Sicily romanced by the newness of their
discoveries in math. There is that beauty in the newness of an idea, but like any marriage it
will eventually grow in unforseen directions and if this growth does not occur you could surmise
that you are in a non-learning rut of sorts.

As Dexter points out the cycle of the planets and seasons are never exactly the same.
Thus we always have to calculate in an adjustment.

That constant change should bemuse you, eh?

 

[look3467]

gosh youre arrogant. you think you are the end of all knowledge. thats my opinion on you. i dont consider your type of thinking a source for any knoweldge. its just flakey and has nothing to do with christianity. i cant believe that 2000 years of catholic teaching is wrong cos i belive god guides the catholic church. how can anybody take seriously false religions that are not even that old?

I never said that the Catholic Church was wrong in it's teachings.

And of course you think I am arrogant, wouldn't you be if you knew more than I did?

I present what I know, and it is up to you to dissimulate it.

If that makes me arrongant in your eyes, I'm sorry.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[look3467]

are you saying sanctus dosent know his bible!

No, I am saying no such thing. You are. Like I said, I present my viewsa and it is up to you to want to enter in a discussion or not.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[look3467]

Dexter

These are the total of the number 7 in the bible:


seven - 390
seventy - 96
sevenfold - 5
seventeen - 9
seventh - 119

Total of 7's = 619 -- 7 and 619 are prime numbers

Surely not a coinsedence don't you think?

Peace>>>AJ :love9:

 

[look3467]

look3467, why are you so wedded to the idea of numerology ?

I recall Pythagoras began a Greek colony on Sicily romanced by the newness of their
discoveries in math. There is that beauty in the newness of an idea, but like any marriage it
will eventually grow in unforseen directions and if this growth does not occur you could surmise
that you are in a non-learning rut of sorts.

As Dexter points out the cycle of the planets and seasons are never exactly the same.
Thus we always have to calculate in an adjustment.

That constant change should bemuse you, eh?

I am amused by the way God uses the numbers in the bible to give direction to key important actions performed by Jesus.
Numbers serve a very key roll in understanding Gods work, much as science uses numbers to understand why things are the way they are.

I don't hold numbers as important as my faith in Jesus Christ. He alone is what is, and He alone is the one who paid the price for my souls' life. Otherwise, I'd be and a soul that would have never existed.

I bring out the numbers things because it is interesting for one, and also to show Gods wonderful ways with them.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[look3467]

look3467, why are you so wedded to the idea of numerology ?

I recall Pythagoras began a Greek colony on Sicily romanced by the newness of their
discoveries in math. There is that beauty in the newness of an idea, but like any marriage it
will eventually grow in unforseen directions and if this growth does not occur you could surmise
that you are in a non-learning rut of sorts.

As Dexter points out the cycle of the planets and seasons are never exactly the same.
Thus we always have to calculate in an adjustment.

That constant change should bemuse you, eh?

There is all that wonderful science and astrology to amuse us with.

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years:
Act 17:26 and he made of one every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed seasons, and the bounds of their habitation;

Surely, God did not leave us to total ignorance, for with in the pages of His word, are all the secrets He wishes to reveal to us.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Dexter
These are the total of the number 7 in the bible:
seven - 390
seventy - 96
sevenfold - 5
seventeen - 9
seventh - 119
Total of 7's = 619 -- 7 and 619 are prime numbers
Surely not a coinsedence don't you think?

That's exactly what I think, and you're wrong anyway, because:
1. You haven't counted the number of times 7 occurs in the chapter and verse numbering system.
2. You've counted things you shouldn't. According to your numbers, there are 390 occurrences of seven. The others aren't sevens.
3. The word 'sevens' occurs twice in the 7th chapter of Genesis (I'll take your word on the other counts), which by your logic you should have counted, so your number should be 621, which is not prime.

You're busted.

 

[look3467]

That's exactly what I think, and you're wrong anyway, because:
1. You haven't counted the number of times 7 occurs in the chapter and verse numbering system.
2. You've counted things you shouldn't. According to your numbers, there are 390 occurrences of seven. The others aren't sevens.
3. The word 'sevens' occurs twice in the 7th chapter of Genesis (I'll take your word on the other counts), which by your logic you should have counted, so your number should be 621, which is not prime.

You're busted.

Hey, how can I argue with you? You are good at what you do.
My best argument, is what is in my heart, and to me that is where the whole thing of life centers on.

If, I have no heart for my fellow human being, I am absolutely nothing!

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[L Gilbert]

:roll:

 

[selfactivated]

AJ I hope you dont mind if I use Dex's post as an educational tool for my point to Maple and anyone else that falls in that catagory.

Dex's post is the perfect point, he attacked the logic NEVER the poster or his sensabilities, therefore never putting down the person personally. Because we ALL know AJ is a wonderful person, his belief system is just a bit different than most. That does NOT mean he is arrogent or that we should berate him in ANY way shape or form. They are HIS beliefs and he has a right to them as we ALL have a right to ours. I hope Ive made my point.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Hey, how can I argue with you?

You can start by conceding that your numerological analyses have no merit, as should be amply clear to you by now, then switching into some more fruitful line of discussion.

 

[look3467]

AJ I hope you dont mind if I use Dex's post as an educational tool for my point to Maple and anyone else that falls in that catagory.

Dex's post is the perfect point, he attacked the logic NEVER the poster or his sensabilities, therefore never putting down the person personally. Because we ALL know AJ is a wonderful person, his belief system is just a bit different than most. That does NOT mean he is arrogent or that we should berate him in ANY way shape or form. They are HIS beliefs and he has a right to them as we ALL have a right to ours. I hope Ive made my point.

Of all folk, the simplest thing to understand is the heart, and you do that well.

As long as your heart leads you, you can do no wrong.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[selfactivated]

*hugs* you

 

[look3467]

You can start by conceding that your numerological analyses have no merit, as should be amply clear to you by now, then switching into some more fruitful line of discussion.

To me, Dexter, numbers have allot of merit. But, not so as to make a difference in my relationship to you or anyone else.
But because of numbers, especially "7", I came to understand God's redemption plan in Christ.

To me, God is so real, that I find it hard to believe that there are unbelievers.

But, I do undestand, and therefore, my heart goes out to them.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[china]

Sanctus
That is not true. That is an unfounded rumour. The Catholic priesthood is well versed in the Scriptures, since it forms so much a part of our Liturgical and daily lives. Further, it is studied ad nauseum in Catholic seminaries.

Dear Sanctus , I will not argue with you or anyone else for that matter.