Quebec passes Bill 62 forcing public to uncover faces to

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I might not entirely agree with that law, but it's a palatable one. Even Iranian law does not require women to cover their faces in public.
 

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QUEBEC — A controversial Quebec religious neutrality bill that obliges citizens to uncover their faces while giving and receiving state services became law Wednesday.

Members of the national assembly voted 66-51 in favour of the legislation, known as Bill 62.

Tabled by Justice Minister Stephanie Vallee in 2015, it is the governing Liberals’ response to the Bouchard-Taylor report on religious accommodation more than a decade ago.

It follows up on an election promise in 2014 to address the issue after the Parti Quebecois’ own controversial secularism charter — the so-called charter of values — died after the party was swept out of power.

While the Liberal bill doesn’t specifically mention the garb, it would have the effect of prohibiting the burka and niqab while people interact with the state, but it doesn’t extend to other religious symbols as the PQ’s charter did.

The law will also provide for the possibility of religious accommodation if certain criteria are met.

The main opposition parties, who voted against the bill, have said the Liberals didn’t go far enough, while advocacy groups and academics have said the law could be subject to legal challenge.

Vallee has said guidelines on how to apply it would be phased in over a period of several months after consultations.

The face-covering ban initially only involved provincial employees when first introduced, but has since been amended to extend to municipal and public transit.

Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre has previously blasted the law, saying the province doesn’t have the right to tell city workers how they should dress.

Coderre has also raised concerns about municipal employees being forced to deal with tense situations, such as having to decide whether women wearing Islamic face coverings should be able to ride public transit.

A spokesman for the union representing Montreal bus drivers, ticket takers and subway employees says it isn’t interested in enforcing the law.

Ronald Boisrond of the Canadian Union of Public Employees says the union wants proper guidelines.

“Bus drivers don’t want to have the responsibility of applying Bill 62 at this time,” Boisrond said in an interview. “We want the STM (transit authority) to give us clear guidelines about what we are supposed to do when the law is in force.”
 

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Furthermore, there might be valid security reasons for it in some cases. What irritates me is the argument that it's to promote secularism which is a crock when we consider the crucifix in the National Assembly. If they stuck to security reasons, great, but let's not pretend it has anything to do with secularism.
 

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Muslims who don't like it can fk off back to the country they built for themselves
 

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what about weddings? will brides be allowed to wear veils?

Good point. I think the law refers to any government institution, so it would not apply to a church, but it would apply to government property, such as when a couple marry before a judge at city hall for example.

I still don't agree with that law; but it's still far less draconian than what the PQ was proposing a few years back.
 

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Boy, I wish you would f_ck off back to whatever pool of primordial ooze you crawled out of.

Maybe he's just angry he was declined membership in the local White Nationalist community for being a first-generation Canadian. Poor guy!

Boy, I wish you would f_ck off back to whatever pool of primordial ooze you crawled out of.



Hardly a Christian country.

Weren't the Indian Residential Schools 'Christian?'
 

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If any other province had this kind of law, (particularly AB) the rest of the country would be calling them Racist, but if Quebec does it, well it seems to be ok.

I would say this is a fairly convincing majority.

"Members of the national assembly voted 66-51 in favour of the legislation, known as Bill 62."
 

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Maybe he's just angry he was declined membership in the local White Nationalist community for being a first-generation Canadian. Poor guy!

I question how Canadian he is.

Weren't the Indian Residential Schools 'Christian?'
They were and I would hope, with the the exception of the knuckle dragging idiots [cough Durry cough], that we've moved beyond that. Religion should have no place in Canadian politics. The residential schools is a shining example of that.

I am no fan of face covering or burka's. The best way to combat these rags of oppression are education.

Watch what happens in Quebec.

If any other province had this kind of law, (particularly AB) the rest of the country would be calling them Racist, but if Quebec does it, well it seems to be ok.

It is racist. If it was about keeping state and church separate they wouldn't be funding Catholic Schools.
 

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And just how does education keep women from wearing a burka, many of these burka wearing ***** are highly educated.

I think you are the one that needs an education
 

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I question how Canadian he is.

They were and I would hope, with the the exception of the knuckle dragging idiots [cough Durry cough], that we've moved beyond that. Religion should have no place in Canadian politics. The residential schools is a shining example of that.

I am no fan of face covering or burka's. The best way to combat these rags of oppression are education.

Watch what happens in Quebec.



It is racist. If it was about keeping state and church separate they wouldn't be funding Catholic Schools.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Quebec funds all private religious schools equally, whether Catholic, Muslim, etc... though I think they do receive less funding than public schools. You might be thinking Ontario with its separate school system that funds Catholic and Protestant exclusively and as much as secular.

And just how does education keep women from wearing a burka, many of these burka wearing ***** are highly educated.

I think you are the one that needs an education

I sometimes wear a ski mask in the dead of winter, so there.
 

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And just how does education keep women from wearing a burka, many of these burka wearing ***** are highly educated.

A friend of mine is a Muslim, he came here from Pakistan when he was a kid. His father insisted that he, his two brothers and two sisters all get an education. They all did and lead productive progressive lives as Canadians. I believe their Muslim kids are now going to university to lead a new generation of progressive Muslims.[/QUOTE]

I think you are the one that needs an education
I'm surprised you're able to do that without falling on your face.