Quebec gets a bigger international role

Numure

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Apr 30, 2004
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Re: RE: Quebec gets a bigger international role

FiveParadox said:
In my opinion, what we need for Canada to become more united among the peoples, and to foster less divisions between the Provinces and Territories of Canada, is to get Ottawa more involved with the Provinces and Territories. The Government of Canada should begin to exercise its right, under the constitution, to veto Acts of the Provinces where those Acts run contrary to the interests of the nation. The Provinces should be reminded that their authority is limited — we are all Canadians.

The day Ottawa veto's a law passed in L'Assemblé Nationale, is the day this country is finished.
 

FiveParadox

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RE: Numure's Conduct

Numure, you seem to be choosing to take a very confrontational stance on everything I have said thus far. I am not attempting to launch attacks against you as a member, and to that end, I would suggest that such a defencive stance is unwarranted, unnecessary, and counterproductive in terms of this discussion. I simply offered a suggestion as to how I thought that the issue of unity could be addressed, in my own opinion.

I was only bringing to the forefront the fact that the Government of Canada does, in fact, have the right conferred upon it through the constitution to disallow legislation enacted by the Lieutenant Governors of the Provinces and the Commissioners of the Territories.
 

Numure

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Re: RE: Numure's Conduct

FiveParadox said:
I was only bringing to the forefront the fact that the Government of Canada does, in fact, have the right conferred upon it through the constitution to disallow legislation enacted by the Lieutenant Governors of the Provinces and the Commissioners of the Territories.

And I was simply pointing out that the day they exercise that right, is the day confederation shall end. The people of this province do not want the federal government intruding on provincial affairs.
 

Numure

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RE: Quebec gets a bigger

Also, the authority of the provinces is limited to what is given to them by the constitution. The federal governments of the pass though *cough* liberals *cough* have never respected the constitution and provincial authority.

The Provinces do not answer to the Feds.
 

FiveParadox

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The affairs of the Provinces and the Territories are just as much the concern of the Crown as are the affairs of the Government of Canada. The Crown, and therefore the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, and therefore by proxy the Prime Minister of Canada and the Ministers of the Crown, have the authority to veto the Acts of the Provinces — to suggest that there would never be circumstances under which this would be warranted is, in my opinion, naïve.
 

Numure

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Apr 30, 2004
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Montréal, Québec
Re: RE: Quebec gets a bigger international role

FiveParadox said:
The affairs of the Provinces and the Territories are just as much the concern of the Crown as are the affairs of the Government of Canada. The Crown, and therefore the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, and therefore by proxy the Prime Minister of Canada and the Ministers of the Crown, have the authority to veto the Acts of the Provinces — to suggest that there would never be circumstances under which this would be warranted is, in my opinion, naïve.

Like I said, the day they use that right, is the day Canada is dissolved.
 

FiveParadox

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Re: RE: Quebec gets a bigger

[i said:
Numure[/i]]Also, the authority of the provinces is limited to what is given to them by the constitution. The federal governments of the pass though *cough* liberals *cough* have never respected the constitution and provincial authority.

The Provinces do not answer to the Feds.
With due respect, I would suggest to the above member that this post is, in fact, incorrect. The very history of Canada would lead me to believe that, in many respects, the Government of Canada does indeed reserve authority over the Governments of the Provinces and the Territories, should odd or exigent circumstances ever occur.

At Confederation, the Lieutenant Governors of the Provinces were not even representatives of Her Majesty the Queen; in fact, they were meant to act as representatives of the Government of Canada (hence, their being appointed by the Governors General of Canada, rather than by Her Majesty) — this continued for years, until certain events transpired which "shifted" the answers of Lieutenant Governors to Her Majesty, rather than the Government. The precedent, however, stands.

[i said:
Numure[/i]]Like I said, the day they use that right, is the day Canada is dissolved.
La province du Québec ne peux pas se séparer du Canada sans le consentement de la Chambre des communes, le Sénat, et le consentement, au moins, des sept de dix Assemblées législatives des provinces (qui représentent au moins cinquante pourcent de la population du Canada).

Québec is just as much my home as it is yours, Numure.