Preemptive War Criminals

[Anonymous]

And what exactly gives you your enlightenment sir? The fact that you've never done anything meaningful for your or anyone elses country? If the opposite of being brainwashed is that, I'd rather not even know my own name.

It's easy for you to say someone's brainwashed as opposed to actually considering their point of view. Ever thought that your anti-Americanism stems from something else? There's quite a few nations and countless people in said nations that dislike the US solely on the amount of power we have in this world. This leads them to argue against anything and everything they (we) do. Well, if that's your thing, enjoy a long life of bitterness being frustrated with the fact that you're insignificant. The right thing to do would to be to make improvements in your own govenment, build an economy that doesn't rely on ours, and ultimately grow a set of your own "balls". Bottom line is that if we weren't doing something, you wouldn't have anything to talk about, I'm sorry, complain about. Now that's sad...

 

[LuShes]

Hannibal

I know the states was hurt bad from the 911 terroist attacks. Bush promised to rid the world of terroism. I am not agasint that, I am sure there is some good in his intentions.
It is impossible to get rid of all terrorism.
I am sure iraq could do better without Saddam. Alot of countries could do better without alot of there politicans.

But NO ONE! I mean no one, on this entire planet, should play god. There must be other ways then war.

I dont think anyone is brainwashed here. Everyone has rights to there own opinions.
Canada is not an agressive country like the states. The United States rules the earth pretty much, and can bully who they want.
You guys play nice to us anyways, because we have many recources you want such as Iraqs oil.

Im proud you are a strong soldeir and stand for your country. Everyone needs to work together on a solution, rather then war. TO many lives are at risk, even the well being of the planet.

Hundreds of innocent people will die, be they have a gun or not. War is NOT the answer!

 

[Anonymous]

But NO ONE! I mean no one, on this entire planet, should play god. There must be other ways then war.

Im proud you are a strong soldeir and stand for your country. Everyone needs to work together on a solution, rather then war. TO many lives are at risk, even the well being of the planet.

I appreciate your comments, the only thing I would tell you is that we're not attempting to play god, we're only attempting to protect ourselves. It had been clearly stated that our intentions are not to harm innocent people. Clearly it happens, but we will care for everyone we can, we always have.

I also appreciate the fact that you understand that serving your country isn't a sentence to become brainwashed. I enlisted voluntarily because I love where I live and I don't want it to change by the hands of anyone else butthe American people.

 

[Vincent_2002]

And what exactly gives you your enlightenment sir? The fact that you've never done anything meaningful for your or anyone elses country? If the opposite of being brainwashed is that, I'd rather not even know my own name.

It's easy for you to say someone's brainwashed as opposed to actually considering their point of view. Ever thought that your anti-Americanism stems from something else? There's quite a few nations and countless people in said nations that dislike the US solely on the amount of power we have in this world. This leads them to argue against anything and everything they (we) do. Well, if that's your thing, enjoy a long life of bitterness being frustrated with the fact that you're insignificant. The right thing to do would to be to make improvements in your own govenment, build an economy that doesn't rely on ours, and ultimately grow a set of your own "balls". Bottom line is that if we weren't doing something, you wouldn't have anything to talk about, I'm sorry, complain about. Now that's sad...

I think the sole fact that you would act with this madman Bush at attacting other country is stupid without UN Support. So there's not very much support around the world, so what. There's not very much support of your own countrymen, and you will still support the american war machine in it's quest to rule the world?

Conquering Iraq will not only effective add control to the oil supply of the east, but such a grasp on Europe. Who will grow away from the United States in the years to come.

If you be so arrogant towards other people of this world, you will again recieve more terror attacks.

 

[Shmad]

And what exactly gives you your enlightenment sir? The fact that you've never done anything meaningful for your or anyone elses country? If the opposite of being brainwashed is that, I'd rather not even know my own name.

It's easy for you to say someone's brainwashed as opposed to actually considering their point of view. Ever thought that your anti-Americanism stems from something else? There's quite a few nations and countless people in said nations that dislike the US solely on the amount of power we have in this world. This leads them to argue against anything and everything they (we) do. Well, if that's your thing, enjoy a long life of bitterness being frustrated with the fact that you're insignificant. The right thing to do would to be to make improvements in your own govenment, build an economy that doesn't rely on ours, and ultimately grow a set of your own "balls". Bottom line is that if we weren't doing something, you wouldn't have anything to talk about, I'm sorry, complain about. Now that's sad...

The fact you assume I've never done anything meaningful for my country just goes to prove my point. At least think somewhat about it.

As for my "Anti-Americanism" as you put it. Im not anti-american, nor did I state anywhere in there "I hate americans" or anything in such a way. Americans are brainwashed by the media to believe what they government wants them to believe. As for the reason Im posting here, its not the fact that americans are completely clueless, its the fact that this is done without ANY kind of UN backing. Think about it, we just now have an international court assembled. Anyone who is involved in illegal or war crimes (bing bing george W), can be arrested in any country which has signed onto the international court and stand trial for their actions.

The US has really no right to go and attack Iraq, they were for the most part complying with weapons inspectors, but I guess a quick way to get this over with is to bomb the hell out of them and get it over with eh?

As for Canada relying on the United States... do you have ANY clue where 90% of your clean drinking water comes from? Or your lumber? I could go on and on about this, but I wont. Simple fact is, Canada is, and always will be a peaceful nation, we simply wont enter a war unless it does have UN backing. If thats too difficult for you to accept, then go continue with your illegal war, Canada will only enter a state of war where war is warranted by the UN. If the US wants to go to war with the world so be it, the entire world would be destroyed, and you know what? In a morbid way, that would probably be best, lets destroy all the war mongers, and in turn destroy the world.

The Iraqis have NOTHING to do with the Taliban/Al Quada and if that fact still eludes you, do your homework. They are in no way affiliated.

Canada always has and always will (like many other nations) look for a peaceful resolution to avoid military conflicts, if one however cannot be found, then with UN approval Canada will participate in any wars.

This entire thread isnt about the US going to war with someone entirely... its about the US entering an illegal war without any backing from any global agency...

 

[Vincent_2002]

Oh, and by the way, your comments against Canada and Canadians. You seem quite racist as a typical american.

You people think that money and power is the ultimate goal above anything else. Have you not seen Bowling for Columbine which clearly states the fact about your country?

Canada is not a land based on Money, Greed, Military and Power. We love our land and we love our way of life. We love our healthcare, available to everyone. We love our sports. We love our diversity. We love ourselves.

If you could only say such a thing about your people are your system.

(sorry, im french, my english is not as good)

 

[Anonymous]

[quote="Vincent_2002]
I think the sole fact that you would act with this madman Bush at attacting other country is stupid without UN Support. So there's not very much support around the world, so what. There's not very much support of your own countrymen, and you will still support the american war machine in it's quest to rule the world?

Conquering Iraq will not only effective add control to the oil supply of the east, but such a grasp on Europe. Who will grow away from the United States in the years to come.

If you be so arrogant towards other people of this world, you will again recieve more terror attacks.[/quote]

I really do appreciate all of your opinions, however disheartening they our to an American, let me say that first.

As for our President, and our country, you guys really don't see it but we're attempting to stave off terrorist attacks on all countries not just our own. As for legal precedence for waging war on Iraq, we're well within our rights. I'm not sure of the resolution numbers nor the details but at the completion of the first war the previously mentioned resolutions were put in place for almost exaclty this scenario.

 

[LuShes]

Vincent

I think hannibal deserves to stand up for country and his beliefs. Like what we do here as canadians.

There are no right answers here. Simply everyone has the right to voice there own opinion. Now if i was american, im sure I would want to stand up for my country. But I know in my heart and the type of person i am, as well being a mother. I know I would be along with the rest of the 75% of american population agasint war.

Sure innocent people are always a risk of war. In the past war has never solved anything. And it wont now. This is the 20th century, we should try things differently.

The human race i admire, yet im ashamed to be one. In all this hate, war, politics, religion. I just wan to be happy and smell the grass in the spring...

 

[Vincent_2002]

did it come to you that Iraq has not so much to do with terrorists? I have seen no proof of this.

 

[Shmad]

I find it hard to believe that you can support such a war that 75% of your own people oppose and over 80% of the world oppose. Then again, its all political propaganda like usual. There is no need for a war against Iraq, sure they should be disarmed, but without UN approval, or hell, even that of your OWN people, it just goes to show how "wide spread" the support for the war really is.. its dismall at best... Enjoy killing women and children if that makes you feel more like a man and more like a "more superior nation"

 

[Anonymous]

1) its not the fact that americans are completely clueless...

2) Think about it, we just now have an international court assembled. Anyone who is involved in illegal or war crimes (bing bing george W), can be arrested in any country which has signed onto the international court and stand trial for their actions.

3)The US has really no right to go and attack Iraq, they were for the most part complying with weapons inspectors, but I guess a quick way to get this over with is to bomb the hell out of them and get it over with eh?

4) Canada will only enter a state of war where war is warranted by the UN.

5) If the US wants to go to war with the world so be it, the entire world would be destroyed, and you know what? In a morbid way, that would probably be best, lets destroy all the war mongers, and in turn destroy the world.

6) The Iraqis have NOTHING to do with the Taliban/Al Quada and if that fact still eludes you, do your homework. They are in no way affiliated.

1) Yet you sit in here and type these posts acting as if we are...
2) Please see my previous post about about past resolutions. Again, I have no details on them, then again I'm not a politician, it's not my job to have them at the ready.
3) Iraq is a threat to not only our national security, but yours as well. That's reason enough.
4) Hence Canada will never go to war other than to defend their own borders. The UN is useless, that's my opinion. While that may match my government's I'm smart enough to come to that conclusion on my own.
5) This is an ignorant statement filled with nonsense. Come on, do you REALLY think that's best?
6) Unless you have some sort of intelligence to prove otherwise, I don't believe you. You're not an elite spy for Canada nor am I one for the United States. Neither of us know whether or not this is or isn't the case.

Again, I really don't think we're in the wrong for doing this, if I did I'd be chiming in with you, my country encourages such thing.

 

[LuShes]

OMG! I dont think anyone enjoys killing anyone unless you are charles manson!

I dont know if I can see the truth and justice behind killing thousands of people, to MAYBE save hundreds more...

There really has to be another way... It breaks my heart. But if an aggressive measure has to be taken. Why missles? Those things have massive amounts of radiation. The effects would be devistasting to the natural habitat there.

 

[Anonymous]

1) I find it hard to believe that you can support such a war that 75% of your own people oppose
2) Enjoy killing women and children if that makes you feel more like a man and more like a "more superior nation"

1) This is NOT the case, as a matter of fact polls here by non-partisan sources show the opposite

2) This comment is downright sickening, the fact that someone would say this would make me question their character as a human being. Nobody wants to see women and children die, nobody but the man we're going to take care of for you.

I need some sleep now...

 

[Anonymous]

OMG! I dont think anyone enjoys killing anyone unless you are charles manson!

I dont know if I can see the truth and justice behind killing thousands of people, to MAYBE save hundreds more...

There really has to be another way... It breaks my heart. But if an aggressive measure has to be taken. Why missles? Those things have massive amounts of radiation. The effects would be devistasting to the natural habitat there.

I never said I enjoyed anything about this, I think it's sad that it's gotten to this point. But I do think it's important to do what's right. People die when things like this happens, it sucks, but it doesn't mean we can't do what needs to be done. That is remove the threat to my own backyard's security.

 

[Anonymous]

That's me above (duh) anyway, good night, I appreciate the intelligent parts of this arguement.

 

[LuShes]

I wasnt meaning you enjoy anything. I was stating something from what shmad had said about americans enjoying killing. As I said, no one enjoys that, only if you were charles manson.

Well I onlly hope you guys succeed then hannibal. Cuz its gunna be one hell of a mess over there. And i hope some good comes out of all of this... and hannibal, try registring an account here

 

[Vincent_2002]

6) Unless you have some sort of intelligence to prove otherwise, I don't believe you. You're not an elite spy for Canada nor am I one for the United States. Neither of us know whether or not this is or isn't the case.

This is true, as I heard, the al quida forces attempt to overthrow saddam hussien!!!!!!! so what you think you know is wrong and what you assume is incorrect.

 

[Shmad]

1) Yet you sit in here and type these posts acting as if we are...
2) Please see my previous post about about past resolutions. Again, I have no details on them, then again I'm not a politician, it's not my job to have them at the ready.
3) Iraq is a threat to not only our national security, but yours as well. That's reason enough.
4) Hence Canada will never go to war other than to defend their own borders. The UN is useless, that's my opinion. While that may match my government's I'm smart enough to come to that conclusion on my own.
5) This is an ignorant statement filled with nonsense. Come on, do you REALLY think that's best?
6) Unless you have some sort of intelligence to prove otherwise, I don't believe you. You're not an elite spy for Canada nor am I one for the United States. Neither of us know whether or not this is or isn't the case.

Again, I really don't think we're in the wrong for doing this, if I did I'd be chiming in with you, my country encourages such thing.

1. As I stated in a previous post 75% of Americans oppose this war. This in turn makes my statement true in that I only believe 25% of you are clueless

2. Pointless to get into but needless to say, the day will come.

3. I fail to see any act of agression by the Iraqi people, I do however see many acts of agression by the US by having embargos on them, stopping food aids and the like. And we wonder why the population there is so poor and malnurished?

4. Canada will enter any war that has UN approval... I did not say we will only enter war to protect our own borders. I fail to even see where you may have gotten that I might have implied that. The UN in itself does have flaws, but for the most part the UN is a good thing, however countries that withdrawl from the UN to pursue their own interests are not only a threat to the UN, but a threat to all UN/Nato allied countries... I hope you see my reasoning in this...

5. Lets say the US does go to war with Iraq (which will happen), its going to end up possibly starting WWIII in which, biological, nuclear and thermal nuclear warfare will be used. I fail to see how this would not end up destroying the world, if you are a scientist then and can explain to me how this wouldnt please do, my undergraduate degree in this field must be lacking.. And before you say this wont be the start of WWIII, start taking a long look at the trends...

6. There have been many reports presented by Canada, France, Germany, the UN, etc etc that prove they are not linked. Even Sadam has come forward and said "If I were involved with Al Quada I would have no problem admitting this." The only reports that suggest otherwise however would be that prepared for, or by the United States.

I dont mean to flame you personally, so please dont take it as that, this war is no good, no good will come from it, and if you fail to see that, the war has already been lost... for both sides..

 

[Anonymous]

This is true, as I heard, the al quida forces attempt to overthrow saddam hussien!!!!!!! so what you think you know is wrong and what you assume is incorrect.

Yes, they tried very hard to over throw Saddam. I think I heard one of them held their breath for 27 seconds and another threw a stone at a passing rabit that had once lived in Iraq. You aren't so naive as to think this isn't to deflect any attention towards this connection elsewhere?

Seriously, now I'm going to sleep...
As for registering, while I live close to the border and played alot of hockey, I'm not a Canadien. Would I be welcome here? Seems as if after some of the comments I've read, I might not be.

 

[LuShes]

Just give me a sexy man, some seafood or chocolate and a nice comfy bed, and I will shutup and be on my marry way