Polls

no1important

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I think its basically a dead heat. It will depend on how many people vote NDP too. I also believe the NDP numbers are a little higher than polls make out.

I know out here they should gain at least 2-3 seats federally if not more. I believe they should get some of those Sask. seats they lost.

I fully believe they will hold the "balance" federally after next election, no matter if Martin or Harper win a miniority. That is good as we can really see (and show the anti NDP crowd) how good they are, and hopefully in subsequent elections they will get more votes and seats.
 

no1important

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CANADA
Liberals – 36.1%
Conservatives – 29.5%
NDP – 17.9%
Green – 4.3%

ATLANTIC:
Liberals – 51.8%
Conservatives – 29.4%
NDP – 15.3%
Green – 3.5%

QUEBEC:
Liberals – 20.5%
Conservatives – 11.4%
NDP – 14.6%
Green – 4.6%
Bloc – 48.9%

ONTARIO:
Liberals – 43.7%
Conservatives – 31.1%
NDP – 22.6%
Green – 2.6%

WEST:
Liberals – 36.2%
Conservatives – 41.1%
NDP – 16.8%
Green – 5.9

They should have a seperate result for BC and the Praires. Libs are gaining in Ontario. I guess even that wont stop Harper from forcing us to vote, when there is no need for one.

The Quebec numbers are quite interesting. The NDP is ahead of Tories and Bloc support seems to continue slipping.
 

no1important

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Ipsos-Reid
07/05/2005
Liberal 32
Cons 31
NDP 16
Bloc 12
Green 5

From Ipso Reid Here
Majority (58%) Believe Conservatives’ Motive For Election Is Power Lust – Not Sincere Belief That They Can No Longer Support “Corrupt” Government (37%)

and

Liberals (32%) And Tories (31%) Virtually Tied Nation-Wide -- But Grits Take Strong 11-Point Lead In Seat Rich Ontario (44% vs. 33%)

Harper seems to be sliding and has no momentum and by the 58% think he is lusting for power, he must be one dumb fuq to bring down the government and force an election, where clearly he is not going to win even a small miniority anymore. He blew it. But who is really suprised anyhow? Not me.
 

Reverend Blair

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The thing is Harper already to his core supporters (and the rest of the country) that he was going to force an election. He put himself in a position where he can't back down now.
 

Reverend Blair

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Last night during Mother's Day supper at my in-laws, Stephen Harper's office called to do a poll. They got my bro in-law. He said they hung up sometime after he started trying to fix the woman who phoned up with, "This really nice lesbian lady down the street." They will never phone that number again. :)
 

Reverend Blair

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Different questions, different demographics. Even polling within Winnipeg, for example, you will get far different answers if you dial Charleswood numbers than Transcona numbers.

Every polling company also has its own political biases and, although they generally try to weed those out so that their polls are valid, those biasses do show through.

It also depends who they are polling for. A poll commissioned by Global is going to favour the right and so on.
 

Reverend Blair

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Environics
16/05/2005
Liberals...33
Cons.......31
NDP........22
Bloc........10

Strategic Counsel
15/05/2005
Liberals...33
Cons.......30
NDP........19
Greens.....6

They were saying on The National last night that the Environics poll has the Liberals running 40% in Ontario. They could actually increase the number of seats there with those numbers.
 

no1important

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I am not surprised. I just wish more people had the "balls" to vote the NDP in Federally instead of voting Liberal to prevent Conservatives getting in.

Funny out of the 5 Parties mentioned Conservatives and Bloc are at the bottom and the Bloc is a negative number.
 

Reverend Blair

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Your last sentence explains why people voting Liberal, No 1. I wish that people would vote NDP too, but I can't blame them for being afraid of Harper and his cronies.
 

badboy

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COMPAS
19/05/2005
Cons...38
Libs...29
NDP...17
Bloc...13
Others...3

looks like we need a vote today.
 

badboy

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Re: RE: Polls

Reverend Blair said:
They only polled 500 people. I'll wait for more data, thanks.

What do you want 30 million, oops that would be a election.
 

Reverend Blair

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It's a small sample, badboy. If you look back through this thread, you'll see that I've said before never to trust a single poll. That goes double with a small sample.
 

badboy

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Re: RE: Polls

Reverend Blair said:
It's a small sample, badboy. If you look back through this thread, you'll see that I've said before never to trust a single poll. That goes double with a small sample.

never trust it unless my guy is on top, well your never going to trust one are you ?