Poll suggests Canada is tiring of being the world's do-gooder

Avro

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Of all the innumerable polls measuring public opinion that get trotted out these days, one recent one stood apart from the rest because, in conventional terms, it makes little sense. It's this very fact that makes it so interesting.
The poll was by Angus Reid. The subject was global warming and respondents were asked their preferences about alternative policy approaches.
By a wide margin, 66 per cent to 34 per cent, Canadians said they preferred "domestic action" to halt climate change rather than "international policy."
By definition, though, a global problem – of which climate change is the ultimate form – can only be solved globally.
Domestic "action" is, of course, of immense importance. But only global action, in which the great majority of countries act co-operatively, can actually solve the problem.
So why are Canadians giving secondary importance to the most effective route to dealing with a challenge that they are so deeply concerned about? A couple of positive explanations come readily to mind.
It's only at the local level that Canadians can get involved personally, as so many want to do.
Also, local action functions as a springboard for global action. Only once we've paid our dues by meeting our Kyoto commitments will we be able to credibly lecture other countries that, at present, are doing little or nothing.
But a less encouraging motive may also be in play.
The relative indifference to international action captured by that poll suggests an underlying shift in Canadian attitudes toward the great wide world. It wouldn't be accurate to call this mood neo-isolationism. But it does give a clear impression of a weariness with, and wariness about, the world.
This is quite a change. For about half a century, we've often measured how we were doing as a nation by what others thought about us (or what we thought they thought).
No one, of course, is going to say out loud that they want Canada to pull back from the world. Yet the bits of evidence keep multiplying that a growing number hold this view.
Consider the strong opposition to our military involvement in Afghanistan. That opposition should exist is understandable in itself: This is the first time we've been involved in a war in more than half a century.
But the action has been sanctioned by the United Nations and is being conducted by the very kind of multilateral organization – NATO – that we habitually support so strongly. That many European NATO members are shirking their Afghan responsibilities is infuriating and depressing; but that's a separate matter.
Then there's the report the Senate has just issued on our aid program to Africa. It's title is almost shocking: Overcoming 40 Years of Failure.
What is shocking is not the Senate's conclusion that our aid to Africa has done the continent precious little good at all, nor its dismissal of the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA) as a moribund bureaucracy. Insiders have long been well aware of both these facts.
What's shocking is that the Senate now judges – correctly, surely – that Canadians are in a mood to hear these kinds of painful realities, even at the risk of eroding their support for foreign aid.
As goes without saying, terrorism is a major cause of our new-found wariness about the world. There are now large parts of the world that Canadians no longer want to visit.
One cause of the shift in our attitudes has be the way the left, traditionally international-minded, is now so often hostile to what's going on beyond our own borders.
Virtually all of the opposition to and the demonstrations against globalization – in the sense of free trade – came from the left.
Opposition to Canadian soldiers being in Afghanistan, even though without them there can be no reconstruction or development there, is led by the New Democrat Party.
The finding that most of us want to deal locally with the global problem of climate change simply confirms this trend.
Traditionally, we've seen our international role as going around doing good while the Americans go around kicking butt.
We're as skeptical as ever about the U.S.'s tactics. But we are losing, if not our taste for doing good, then our certainty about how much of it we can actually do.

http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/183407
 

tamarin

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The ordinary Canadian has always been smarter than his politicians. CIDA was reviled as a waste of time years ago. Like most "charities" it was widely recognized as a bureaucratic boondoggle and trough for domestic freeloaders. If global warming is to develop an engaged local audience the government is going to have to do a helluva sales job on emission credits. I'm not on board there. Few people are. The idea of paying other countries to look askance as our emissions continue to soar is a non-starter. The idea of stock exchanges trading in the credits is abominable. Another means for the filthy rich to get filthier. Our participation in global warming changes should be Canadian driven and financed. Not a penny to any other world capital.
 

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Climate change is a global problem and must be tackled that way. Emission credits can be paid through technology up grades to developing countries to help them produce green energy....the EU is already doing this with China and the development of clean coal energy plants.

Canada on it's own will change nothing as far as global warming is concerned, the heavy producers of GHG must be engaged and Kyoto is the only thing that does that. In 2012 more countries will be involved and expected to lower emissions, Kyoto is only in it's beginning stages.

Remember, it's called Global warming, not Canada warming.
 

CDNBear

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Climate change is a global problem and must be tackled that way. Emission credits can be paid through technology up grades to developing countries to help them produce green energy....the EU is already doing this with China and the development of clean coal energy plants.

Canada on it's own will change nothing as far as global warming is concerned, the heavy producers of GHG must be engaged and Kyoto is the only thing that does that. In 2012 more countries will be involved and expected to lower emissions, Kyoto is only in it's beginning stages.

Remember, it's called Global warming, not Canada warming.
Do I really have to post the news reports that pretty much report the exact opposite of what you just claimed? The ones that state if China builds the coal plants, that are opening pretty much on a monthly rate, any effect from reducing GHG emissions in Europe or North America will be negated? Or the other ones that state that the EU is failing at it attempt reach projected reduction targets?
 

sanctus

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Do I really have to post the news reports that pretty much report the exact opposite of what you just claimed? The ones that state if China builds the coal plants, that are opening pretty much on a monthly rate, any effect from reducing GHG emissions in Europe or North America will be negated? Or the other ones that state that the EU is failing at it attempt reach projected reduction targets?

Does China still rely a great deal on coal-power Bear?
 

mabudon

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I think China is indeed a "rising star" in the field of coal-derived energy- no link right now, but I'm sure I've heard that a few times recently and it would make sense what with the exponential growth happening there
 

tracy

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I think this poll just shows Canadians think they do a lot more overseas than they actually do. To call us the world's dogooder is just a sign of ignorance. We do some good work of course, but it's hardly a large chunk of our budget or anything.
 

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Do I really have to post the news reports that pretty much report the exact opposite of what you just claimed? The ones that state if China builds the coal plants, that are opening pretty much on a monthly rate, any effect from reducing GHG emissions in Europe or North America will be negated? Or the other ones that state that the EU is failing at it attempt reach projected reduction targets?


Really?

What did I claim?

That the EU is working with China to develope clean coal power plants?

The opposite of that would be they are doing no such thing.

Show me an article that says they are not doing this.

I'll show you one that does....

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/xw/t236207.htm
 
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