Poll finds most Muslims agree with Al-Qaeda's goals

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Washington - Most Muslims want US military forces out of the Middle East and Islamic countries and many agree with Al-Qaeda's goals, if not its tactics, suggested a public opinion poll conducted in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan and Indonesia.

"Most respondents have mixed feelings about Al-Qaeda," said a statement of the study's findings, conducted by the Washington-based nonprofit group WorldPublicOpinion.org and the University of Maryland.

"Large majorities agree with many of its goals, but believe that terrorist attacks on civilians are contrary to Islam."

An average of 74 per cent of all those polled agreed with the goal of "push(ing) the US to remove its bases and military forces from all Islamic countries," said the poll.

A full 91 per cent of Egyptians and 69 per cent of Moroccans said they approved of attacks against US soldiers in Iraq, while 61 per cent of Indonesians disapproved. Pakistanis appeared divided on the matter, with 31 per cent for such attacks and 33 per cent against.

The survey found similar responses with regard to US forces in Afghanistan and the Gulf.

At least 70 per cent or more in all countries supported the goals of "stand(ing) up to Americans and affirm(ing) the dignity of the Islamic people," and "pressur(ing) the United States not to favor Israel," it said.

Those polled were asked whether they thought certain ideas were the goals of Al-Qaeda or groups inspired by the Osama bin Laden-led militant network, and then were asked to what extent they agreed or disagreed, somewhat or strongly, with those goals.

Most agreed that Al-Qaeda goals included requiring a strict application of Islamic, or sharia, law in every Islamic country, pushing US military forces out of all Islamic countries, and keeping Western values out of Islamic countries -- and most were supportive of those aims.

( I.E. No freedom, No Guys, No Music, No drinking, No out of marriage sex, No movies, no equal rights for women but strick subservent roles for women, Killing any Hifra is acceptable and or anyone who converts to another reglion, ALL law is dictated by Cleric and no secularism for free enterpise.)

Asked about Al-Qaeda's attitudes and tactics in general, 25 per cent of Egyptians and 15 per cent of Indonesians said they "support Al-Qaeda's attacks on Americans and share its attitudes toward the US," along with nine per cent of Moroccans and 10 per cent of Pakistanis.

Nearly 33%, one third, of those polled in Egypt and Morocco said they agreed with "many of" Al-Qaeda's attitudes toward the United States but "oppose Al-Qaeda's attacks on Americans." Twenty-four per cent in Indonesia and six per cent in Pakistan took this view.

Less than 33%,one third, said they disagreed with both Al-Qaeda's attitudes and its attacks on Americans, with 31 per cent of Egyptians, 29 per cent of Indonesians and 26 per cent of Moroccans and 16 per cent in Pakistan.

A large number of Pakistanis chose not to answer the question, with 68 per cent saying they refuse/don't know. Significant sections of the other groups also declined to answer, including 35 per cent of Moroccans, 32 per cent of Indonesians and 14 per cent of Egyptians.

(Theocratic intimidation or fear of thsoe who they say they support?)

A wider range of opinions was found regarding the question of suicide bombers and whether their actions could be justified often, sometimes, rarely or never.

41%, Forty-one per cent, of Egyptians said "an attack in which a Muslim blows himself up while attacking an enemy" is often justified, while 19 per cent said "sometimes" and 28 per cent said "never."

However, 68 per cent of Indonesians and 60 per cent of Pakistanis were strongly opposed to suicide tactics.

Most Egyptians, Indonesians and Moroccans said establishing a Palestinian state was not a US goal, and sweeping majorities in all countries -- including 89 per cent in Egypt and 63 per cent in Morocco -- responded that the United States was controlling most or nearly all of what happens in the world today.

The poll was conducted from December to February through in-home interviews by native Arabic, Indonesian and Urdu language speakers with around 1,000 people in each country. The margin of error was between three and four per cent.

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s243a

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Most Muslims agree with al-Qaeda's goals?

Does that mean that Sufi and Shiia Muslims endorse the Sunni's idea of making war on them as well????
Good point. Thus the natural question should be which goals. I am sure you could do a poll and get the result that 70% of people agree with Hitler. Of course the question might have been do you agree that Michelangelo is a better artist then Picasso.
 

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So most Muslims would like foreign goverment's armies and their influence over their goverments removed. This news? I guess they should actually consider themselves lucky to be even noticed or of worth to the west.
 
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A lot of this assumes that the pollsters and the people being polled know what Al-Qaeda's real goal is, and I don't think they do. I think Al-Qaeda's real goal is to create fundamentalist Islamic governments everywhere from Pakistan in the east, all through the Middle East, and including Turkey, all across north Africa to Morocco on the Atlantic coast, and if they can, up into Spain and Portugal, and into eastern Europe at least up to the boundaries of the old Austro-Hungarian Empire. They want to recover all the territories that Islam once ruled, and they think fundamentalism is the way to do it. And they think that because--and I'm certain this is the Taliban calculation too--they're convinced that Islamic empire fell because it allowed western influences to subvert it even as it conquered, so God turned his face away from them. For a fundamentalist Muslim the calculation is simple: return to the old ways and God will take care of everything else, Islam will be returned to its former glory and power.
 

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To actually answer your question...I recommend you read an interesting book called "How to lie with statistics". I feel that this article helps to propel the stereoptype that muslims are violent people, and present a danger to the west. I feel that is unfortunate.

I'll pass, thank you. Stats was not my favourite area of study in University. I'm well aware of how this sort of information can be manipulated:)
 

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we really don't look at it from thier point of view. They were considered as little people from the west for such a long time. So this seems like accumulated resentment. Also a propaganda tool used by the few in power or influential circles. Can you imagine a foriegn country imposing on us? Hmmmm
in a more subtle way the U.S. pushes thier desires on us but culterally we are not that different so it goes mostly unnoticed.
 

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Most agreed that Al-Qaeda goals included requiring a strict application of Islamic, or sharia, law in every Islamic country, pushing US military forces out of all Islamic countries, and keeping Western values out of Islamic countries -- and most were supportive of those aims.


To be precised, from the same poll, it is egypte and pakistan who ask for sharia law, not the other 2,why putting everyone in the same boat??

Also, 70% of them HAS A VERY negative view OF OUSSAMA BIN LADEN, doesnt share his goals and disparove killing innoncent civilian. WHY ISNT IN THE ARTICLE YOU BROUGHT?





First of all, even less than 25% believe 9-11 was done by alqueada(that is ffrom the same poll), in pakistan 3% believe in us official story, incrédible isnt??


Why the author wrote "most agree with alqueada"? that is total bullstrawberrry crap and it shows their crédibilité.

When an author doesnt put the link of the poll( like many does in canada and usa) that he is writing an article about, you can smell the biased side of the author, here it is the link.


http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/home_page/346.php?nid=&id=&pnt=346&lb=hmpg2


why the author, and even the poll suggested that it is only alqueada goal, to kick american ass out of the muslim land?


here is a something that should have been in your article.


Most view globalization positively and favor democracy and freedom of religion.



Why isnt in? Because the author and like many in here, are just anti-muslim at whatever cost, ready to manipulate polls for their goals, period.
 
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First: Logic - how about letting go of all that formatting nonsense. A bigger font does not mean a stronger argument. It is just annoying and gets in the way of actually paying attention to what you write.

Second: Sanctus - I want the military bases out of the middle east - does that make me a terrorist sympathizer? If there was a foreign occupation of my country - you bet I'd find a way to oppose it. Should I be sent to Gitmo?

Of course this article is Muslim - bashing: the poll results were not given in their entirety or in context, so the numbers were necessarily massaged to make the biased claims of the writer seem more credible.

Having said that, Islam is a religion of violence and intolerance (aren't they all, really?) and deserves to be critically exmined.

Just not in so ham-handed a way.

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sanctus said:
How do you feel the article is indicative of Muslim bashing?

Why don't you answer my question first?

Are you convinced that "most Muslims agree" with al-Qaeda's goal of exterminating Sufis and Shiia who refuse to see their world through their hate filled eyes?

If you AQ at all, you know that it is more at war with Islam than it is with the West.