Police quiz boy, 10, for calling schoolfriend 'gay'
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I think there is WAAAY too much coddling. Kids should not fear ostracizing other kids. I say this having grown up as quite an unpopular kid. Being a scrawny smartmouth with an odd name who speaks with a lisp, go figure..I didn't have an easy time in school.
None the less, I think kids have a right to ostracise anyone they see fit. It is how human society functions, and how biologically, it is meant to function. While its not fun, so what, that's life.
Ostracized people need to either learn to fit in, or learn to ignore the slings and arrows of society at large.
I think there is WAAAY too much coddling. Kids should not fear ostracizing other kids. I say this having grown up as quite an unpopular kid. Being a scrawny smartmouth with an odd name who speaks with a lisp, go figure..I didn't have an easy time in school.
None the less, I think kids have a right to ostracise anyone they see fit. It is how human society functions, and how biologically, it is meant to function. While its not fun, so what, that's life.
Ostracized people need to either learn to fit in, or learn to ignore the slings and arrows of society at large.
I agree. Kids should not be forced to play with kids they don't like. And if a kid doesn't fit in socially, they should learn to fit in, or learn to not care.
BUT.
Not liking someone and ignoring them, is different from bullying them and calling them names. Ostracizing someone should mean ignoring, not attacking, be it through words or actions.
You're right Zzarchov, it does depend on who starts the conversation, to a degree anyway. I've seen plenty of kids (heck, not even just kids), who like to jump in on an existing argument or problem, and keep picking and picking at it. Sure, little Timmy might have started the issue, but perhaps Jimmy just won't let it die.
Now, I'm not saying I know the whole situation here, because frankly none of us do, the article doesn't go into great depth. But, I'm assuming that this particular boy was one who jumped into a cycle of behavior which was already occurring and was already a problem for the other child. I really can't imagine police being called in on an honest to goodness isolated incident. but, if this was a pattern of treatment the boy was receiving from other students as well, I can see where they would be popping in for a little chat.
Now, I'm not saying I know the whole situation here, because frankly none of us do, the article doesn't go into great depth. But, I'm assuming that this particular boy was one who jumped into a cycle of behavior which was already occurring and was already a problem for the other child. I really can't imagine police being called in on an honest to goodness isolated incident. but, if this was a pattern of treatment the boy was receiving from other students as well, I can see where they would be popping in for a little chat.
I can totally see police getting called into an isolated incident if the boy is a crybaby and the mom is a Mrs.Brovlovski type.
Police have been called in because a junkie thought his drug dealer ripped him off by selling him fake cocaine, people have called the cops (and 911) because the Drive through window screwed up there order.
Police have gone in, in person and pepper sprayed and beaten a McDonalds cashier because he believed he had been ripped off $10 (upon closer examination it was discovered he had paid with a $10 and not a $20, which was still in his wallet). He was not charged with any wrongdoing.
So I can totally see the cops being called in.
Police have been called in because a junkie thought his drug dealer ripped him off by selling him fake cocaine, people have called the cops (and 911) because the Drive through window screwed up there order.
Police have gone in, in person and pepper sprayed and beaten a McDonalds cashier because he believed he had been ripped off $10 (upon closer examination it was discovered he had paid with a $10 and not a $20, which was still in his wallet). He was not charged with any wrongdoing.
So I can totally see the cops being called in.
I just want to point out again how much of a one sided story this is, and how difficult it is to make a true assessment without knowing more of what actually happened.
This boy is 10 years old, lets get real here. Incident should be dealt with by parents and teachers if that applies, not police.
The word is tossed all over the place in the adolescent world. My grandson and granddaughter are 16
yrs. old, they call each other gay on many occasions, just because one of them does some little gesture, or wears a certain article of clothing, or just 'because', period. 'THAT'S SO GAY', I've heard
them say that many times.
And, yes, they refer to others in their school or wherever as 'so gay' because the name callers are immature right now, and need to develope more brain matter, but they think of each other as,
really cool, and so smart.
I'm certainly not saying that is right, but it is life, and always has been, fatso,four eyes,skinny, fatty,
and on and on.
Parents, please be responsible and observant with your kids. There is always kids who are a little
different than the majority, always has been. When I was a kid/teenager the saying was 'homo' and
heard that many many times about kids who dressed odd,didn't date, or was just shy, or
just the recipient of name calling from the so called cool kids, who aren't really cool at all.
Why couldn't the parent of the other kid have notified the parent of the 10 yr. old boy, and shown
their displeasure with the remark. Even if they had an arguement over the incident, the 10 yr. old would
have thought twice about doing it again. The problem is, that many parents take the side of their
own kid, even when they are wrong.
We're not talking about bullying, or sexual harrassment, or gay bashing, were discussing a 10 yr old
boy, who needs some parantal guidance.
The word is tossed all over the place in the adolescent world. My grandson and granddaughter are 16
yrs. old, they call each other gay on many occasions, just because one of them does some little gesture, or wears a certain article of clothing, or just 'because', period. 'THAT'S SO GAY', I've heard
them say that many times.
And, yes, they refer to others in their school or wherever as 'so gay' because the name callers are immature right now, and need to develope more brain matter, but they think of each other as,
really cool, and so smart.
I'm certainly not saying that is right, but it is life, and always has been, fatso,four eyes,skinny, fatty,
and on and on.
Parents, please be responsible and observant with your kids. There is always kids who are a little
different than the majority, always has been. When I was a kid/teenager the saying was 'homo' and
heard that many many times about kids who dressed odd,didn't date, or was just shy, or
just the recipient of name calling from the so called cool kids, who aren't really cool at all.
Why couldn't the parent of the other kid have notified the parent of the 10 yr. old boy, and shown
their displeasure with the remark. Even if they had an arguement over the incident, the 10 yr. old would
have thought twice about doing it again. The problem is, that many parents take the side of their
own kid, even when they are wrong.
We're not talking about bullying, or sexual harrassment, or gay bashing, were discussing a 10 yr old
boy, who needs some parantal guidance.
I remember as a kid we used the word as an insult before we knew what it meant. It took me years to train myself out of using it again.
I see Imus in trouble for "nappy-headed ho's" and it's quickly become a national issue. Amazing. The lad even appeared on Al Crazyman Sharpton's show to apologize. Seems de rigueur anymore. Who died and made Weird Al god? Why are all such incidents picked up by the media and nationalized? It was a stupid comment but society is rife with them. There seems to be an agenda here and the message is clear: Big Brother is watching you...cover your ass.
And this is the kind of society we're supporting? Where pet issues become national concerns because self-appointed puppet masters say so?
And this is the kind of society we're supporting? Where pet issues become national concerns because self-appointed puppet masters say so?
Again...this is a one sided article. There is so much that we might not know. To make an assessment like this is impossible. There may be much more to this story than we all realize.