Peak Oil news, CNN out to lunch

dumpthemonarchy

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In the following article they say Brazil has found a whopping new 7 billion barrels of oil-which is about two months worth for the world oil supply. The world uses about 3 billion barrels a month.

Then real nonsense:

"Peak oil advocates claim that the world is running out of oil unless the West gives up its energy-consuming lifestyle. Like global warming and population-bomb Malthusianism, it's essentially junk science because it operates on a static model. Crucially, it leaves out the politics of whether oil companies are allowed to discover or not."

Yeah, like if only Russia, Iran, Iraq, Venezuela were only like us, capitalistic, super efficient and so scientific. And just the West? China, India et al are buying new cars and SUVs at a rapid clip. CNN means a western lifestyle of oil gluttony. But that would mean criticizing the good ol' US of A and the neocons.

They neglect to comment that world oil production has been stuck at 85 million barrels per day since 2005. No minor fact. Peak oil is real and coming slowly. One way to ease the pain is to buy organic food and reduce our dependence on carbon-based agriculture.

Enjoy.


http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/IBD-0001-21688641.htm

Brazil's Not Peaking
December 14, 2007: 08:05 PM EST



Dec. 17, 2007 (Investor's Business Daily delivered by Newstex) -- Energy: Global warming doomsayers have a mirror canard of doom in the peak oil theory, suggesting that the world is running out of oil. So is it? Not with countries like Brazil still not even done discovering it yet.

Last week came news that Brazil may be sitting on even bigger oil deposits than the huge Tupi field discovered just last month. According to Bloomberg News, if a geological formation beneath a two-mile layer of salt in Brazil's Santos offshore basin is oil-bearing, it may hold "significantly more" crude, says Gustavo Gattass, an analyst with UBS (NYSE:UBS) Pactual in Rio de Janeiro.

That's no small thing -- Tupi alone almost doubled Brazil's oil reserves and may raise Brazil to the rank of 10th biggest oil producer from 17th currently. Awed at the good fortune, Brazil's president, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva sighed: "God must be Brazilian."
Wait a minute. Wasn't oil supposed to be running out? Wasn't all the oil out there already discovered? If this new "Sugar Loaf" field in Brazil pans out, the world oil picture won't be the same.

Brazil will become an even bigger exporter in a decade or so than projected and could put pressure on the club of petrotyrants that now has a monopoly on resources. Best of all, it throws doomsday assumptions about oil "peaking" on its head.

The world produces about 85 million barrels of oil a day, according to the International Energy (OOTC:ILGL) Agency. Global energy (NASDAQ:GEGT) demand is expected to rise 55% from 2005-2030. Peak oil theories abound that new discoveries are not keeping up with oil usage. But it's significant that the new demand also is fostering big new discoveries, largely from the very countries where demand is growing most.

Peak oil advocates claim that the world is running out of oil unless the West gives up its energy-consuming lifestyle. Like global warming and population-bomb Malthusianism, it's essentially junk science because it operates on a static model. Crucially, it leaves out the politics of whether oil companies are allowed to discover or not.

Might the recent shortage of new oil on the market have something to do with bans on offshore drilling, as in the U.S.?

Might this lack of new oil have something to do with the fact that less-efficient state oil ownership has grown globally to 80% of all reserves, while countries such as Venezuela have begun seizing private oil properties?

Might the fact that big emerging markets need oil badly and don't know where to get it motivate them to find more themselves?

Believing in their potential and determined to get rich, these countries are the ones making some of the most dramatic new energy discoveries this year. Besides Brazil, China has made 10 major new discoveries this year alone. Its Bohai Bay discovery last May, its largest in four decades, added 7.35 billion barrels of reserves. India, once viewed as an energy no-hoper, is also finding energy offshore, and Russia already is a major producer making itself bigger.

Meanwhile, last year Mexico made a huge offshore discovery it has yet to tap. And in the tiny area where U.S. energy companies are permitted to drill offshore in the Gulf of Mexico, Chevron, Statoil and Devon Energy (NYSE:DVN) made the biggest discovery since the Alaska Prudhoe find decades ago, called "Jack 2." It's so big it could add 50% to the U.S.' 29 billion barrels of domestic energy reserves.

"The world is not running out of oil," said Daniel Yergin, head of Cambridge Energy (OOTC:CNGG) Research Associates and one of the world's leading oil experts, in a recent interview with Les Echos in Paris.

Yergin noted that technological breakthroughs also are enabling the production of more energy. Not only can new technologies recover resources from old wells previously thought tapped out, it can create oil from formerly useless resources, like tar sands. It also can recover oil and natural gas from previously impossible geography, like the deep blue sea miles beneath the surface -- which will be Brazil's challenge.

Brazil's discovery isn't just wonderful news for Brazil -- it's a lesson for the West. Not only is there more oil out there than doomsayers claim, but it takes political will to ignore the naysayers and get out there and discover more.

The best part about Brazil's will to drill is it exposes the peak oil crowd for what it is: a group with a radical agenda that has less to do with science than with expounding "Western guilt" about its economic success, which is built on oil. Emerging Brazil has no such qualms, and shows just how useless such hang-ups are.


Newstex ID: IBD-0001-21688641

Originally published in the December 17, 2007 version of Investor's Business Daily.

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MikeyDB

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Walter

I have great respect for differing opinion and while I believe that a significant contributor to the phenomenon of global warming is human in origin, are you suggesting that it's the mark of an informed intellect to continue to play the fossil fuel shuffle and slide...?

Because more petroleum is found...everything's OK..?

We don't have a responsibility to entertain the notion that our behavior (billions upon trillions of metric tons of carbon) released into the atmosphere plays any significant role in climate change and we can and should with clear conscience continue to develop and lock ourselve's even more to a dependency on fossil fuels?

I suppose when air borne debris begins to cloud those rose colored lenses you might rethink your position but it's unlikely that this would happen....
 

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I saw some very interesting presentations this week on the growing demand for resources. I think we're in for very interesting times over the next generation or three. The break even cost for producers is growing significantly and is likely to moderate the supply, even if there for the taking. We were shown a few projects cancelled by the prospect of extraction costs mounting to 10 times the original estimates. And with emerging markets evolving into real consumers, and their GDP's expected to rival or surpass the US in the first half of this century, it's difficult to foresee an outcome that doesn't add up to significantly higher resource prices in the future.
 

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Kreskin

It's the same story with the automotive industry and several others...

Why does it cost "X" for an automobile.... is part of this cost the good salaries and profits taken by line-workers and as Beve likes to call it ..the "machine" over the past sixty years, is it the expectation that the public requires more money because the costs keep rising and on and on and on... a snake eating its tail...

When "profits" aren't as juicy as once anticipated, the "cost" of finding and mining that resource goes up....

Isn't there a lesson to be learned here?
 

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Walter and Toro:

Rabid right wing organizations are so passe. Because they say everything is trickery by some iluminati who always fool us plodders. Pardon me while I yawn.

Are you saying that there is not a greater demand for resources in the world today? There are the facts on the ground here, as in China and India burning more fuel. Do you deny this? We have to establish some ground rules here.

Then Cambridge says everything in the future will be fine. I agree, life in the future will be fine, it will be awful. No one knows the future so anyone can say anything about it. The future is not a fact, but total denial of it seems very Bushlike.

*Note, the Cambridge web page is one year old, from 2006*  The world changes. Try to notice please.

Will Cambridge, those guys in their nice soft office jobs take any kind of responsibility if their words become empty? Never. Why should they? They have no legal responsibility or obligation for anything. They advise. They are on the gravy train. Ya gotta love it.

I'm so lover of Peak Oil, I dread it. I just wonder why there have been no big oil fields discovered in the last 30 years, or the fact that oil production is stalled at 85-86 million barrels per day since 2005.

There's lots of oil at $300-500 per barrel, and suffering at that price too.
 
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s243a

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If people believe in peak oil why don't they buy oil futures? That is put their money where their mouth is.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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A very sanguine report on peak oil, saying $500 per barrel oil will not be so bad because using less oil is currently the way it is in Europe. Americans will still be quite rich but have to live closer together. True to a point.
Only problem here is that everything will get much much more expensive as we live in a sea of oil. We wil get 50% poorer overnight by my reckoning with oil at $500 pb. A cause for economic upheaval.

http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/585637.html
 

s243a

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A very sanguine report on peak oil, saying $500 per barrel oil will not be so bad because using less oil is currently the way it is in Europe. Americans will still be quite rich but have to live closer together. True to a point.
Only problem here is that everything will get much much more expensive as we live in a sea of oil. We wil get 50% poorer overnight by my reckoning with oil at $500 pb. A cause for economic upheaval.

http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/585637.html

If oil ever went to $500 per barrel Alberta would be rich.
 

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dumpthemonarchy;911353I'm so lover of Peak Oil said:
PetroChina may have tapped into the largest oil reserves to be discovered in China in the past decade, government officials confirmed Tuesday.
PetroChina's big oil find in the Jidong field in Bohai Bay off the coast of Hebei is currently estimated at about 2.2 billion barrels, Global Insight said. Theenergy producer hopes to have a combination of off- and onshore production facilities yielding 160,000 barrels per day by 2010, the analysis and forecasting firm said.
Future exploration work over the next five to 10 years could raise the overall reserve level to as much as 7.3 billion barrels, Global Insight said.
PetroChina President Jiang Jiemin had hinted at the scope of the discovery when announcing the company's year-end results last week. But the magnitude wasn't confirmed until the Ministry of Land and Resources confirmed the numbers Tuesday.
If the reserves reach 7.3 billion barrels it would put the find in the same league as PetroChina's largest crude producing in the Tarim Basin, giving a substantial boost to China's production picture.
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