Paul the hack Martin

[Hank C Cheyenne]

yea nascar I agree with you....... the thing is it would of created jobs and therefore put more money back into the Canadian economy.......not to say that the social spending has no job creation element but its just not as significant!

its proves that they will do anything to stay in power...even if its not in Canadas best interests.

......and Rev you can't judge Harper as corrupt just because of Mulroney which was 13 years ago! And I beleive it was also Treudau who also had a HUGE part in running up the debt!!!

 

[Nascar_James]

no1 ... I think many folks in the Maritimes also object to SSM. So it's not just an Alberta issue.

 

[Nascar_James]

Just thought of another issue the voters will ponder when come election time. Why in the world have the last 4 PM's come from Quebec? Why not pick someone from Alberta or say the Maritimes this time? Even Ontario,... many good candidates there, like Mike Harris.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

actaully every province here is forced to have SSM..... its jsut not democracy because there was no national referendum on the issue!

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

....good question.....what about the last 2 governon generals?

both worked for CBC
both were immigrants (just saying that do you have to be immigrant to hold the position nowadays?)
both are wayy left
one is possibly a seperatist and has appeared in sepratist films

 

[JomZ]

INDEPTH: BUDGET 2005
Liberal-NDP budget deal

CBC News Online | Updated June 24, 2005


Prime Minister Paul Martin reached an agreement-in-principle with the New Democrats on April 26 to earn support for his minority government's budget. The deal includes a $4.6-billion boost in social program spending over two years.

"This agreement is fiscally responsible. It is progressive. We agreed to it because we want Parliament to work," Martin told reporters.

Martin said the deal - which could enable his government to survive - will be paid for through projected budget surpluses of $9 billion.

The deal between the Liberals and the NDP included:
$1.6 billion for affordable housing construction, including aboriginal housing.

A $1.5-billion increase in transfers to provinces for tuition reduction and better training through EI.

$900 million for the environment, with one more cent of the federal gas tax going to public transit.

$500 million for foreign aid to bring Canada in line with a promise of 0.7 per cent of GDP.

$100 million for a pension protection fund for workers.
Promised tax cuts for small and medium-sized businesses will remain but cuts for large corporations will be deferred.

Martin said a day after the Liberal-NDP deal was announced that the business tax cuts would be withdrawn from the budget. They would be introduced later as separate legislation provided the Liberals get the backing of the Conservatives, Martin said.

When Finance Minister Ralph Goodale introduced his budget in February, he pledged to reduce the general corporate tax rate from the current 21 per cent to 20.5 per cent in 2008, 20 per cent in 2009 and 19 per cent by 2010, at a cost to Ottawa of slightly more than $3 billion.

Goodale's second budget also called for the elimination by 2008 of the corporate surtax, which was originally brought in as a deficit-cutting measure in 1987. Cutting the surtax would have been the equivalent of a 1.12-percentage-point cut in the corporate tax rate. Ottawa said eliminating the surtax would cost it $440 million in tax revenue in 2009 and $920 million in 2010.

Business groups denounced the tax-cut deferral in the Liberal-NDP agreement. The Canadian Chamber of Commerce, the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Canadian Federation of Independent Business all criticized the government's attempts to get the budget passed and stay alive.

The opposition Conservatives denounced the Liberal-NDP budget deal and threatened repeatedly to vote against the budget and bring down the government. But on June 23, the Liberals deployed a rarely-used procedural tactic to limit debate. In a midnight vote, the Liberal's amended budget passed third reading by a vote of 152-147.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/budget2005/liberal-ndp-deal.html

I am not saying Martin is a great guy, I actually find him too corporate and uncharismatic to be an effective leader of people. He lacks the real leadership qualities and wit that a leader needs, expecially in these times of political instability.

Its also funny that some approach the NDP budget with the argument that it will effect job creation when the majority of these corporations

JOB GROWTH BOUNCES BACK IN AUGUST

September 9, 2005

27,500 jobs created in Canada
Wage growth starting to pick up
Canada’s August job report bested expectations with the addition of a convincing 27,500 positions to the economy – a healthy rebound from two softer months. Indeed, there continues to be good reason for enthusiasm about Canada’s labour force. First, although the raw pace of job creation over the past twelve months doesn’t quite match the scorching pace set over the prior few years, the quality of new positions has been top-notch. In fact, the entirety of the net jobs created in the last twelve months have been full-time positions. Second, the unemployment rate was unchanged at a rock-bottom 6.8 per cent in August – just off the three-decade low set in June. Third, an arguably superior “adjusted” unemployment rate (modified to account for discouraged job searchers, those waiting to begin pre-arranged jobs, and involuntary part-time workers) trended downward to its lowest annual average on record in August. Finally, both Canada’s labour force participation rate and the share of the population that is employed sit near record highs. As a result, the Canadian job market is strong by virtually every measure.

Digging into the details of the monthly report, the pace of full-time job creation continued to impress, with 35,500 new positions in August. By contrast, there was a decline of 8,100 part-time positions during the month.

The sectoral composition of the report contained a few quirks. Notably, more job creation originated from the goods sector (+24,600 jobs) than the services sector (+2,800 positions), which runs against the grain of earlier months. Construction was the main contributor to the goods sector, resulting in the creation of 31,900 jobs, and providing an offset to a large loss in construction positions the previous month. By contrast, manufacturers continued to shed positions – another 8,500 in August, bringing the total to 107,600 lost over the past year – as elevated input costs and a higher Canadian dollar wreaked havoc on their bottom line. The service sector was a thoroughly mixed bag, with a few persistent laggards continuing to weigh down the average, and a surprising drop in the heretofore strong retail and wholesale trade industry, which lost 14,300 jobs.

Canada’s tight labour force requires careful watch given the potential for rapid wage growth, which in turn can translate into the bane of all central bankers – inflation. In fact, it is becoming evident that wage growth has already begun to accelerate, with year-over-year wage growth of both hourly and salaried employees running at between 3.5 and 4 per cent – the fastest pace in more than four years. Accordingly, when the robust labour force is considered in combination with Canada’s high rate of capacity utilization and an output gap that is nigh closed, the Bank of Canada’s decision to raise interest rates on September 7th appears fitting. We suspect interest rates have some distance yet to travel before reaching their peak, although the odds of a rate hike on October 18th are diminished by the uncertain extent of the destruction wreaked by Hurricane Katrina on global economic growth.

Eric Lascelles, Economist
416-982-6420
http://www.td.com/economics/comment/el090905.jsp

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: RE: Paul the hack Martin

....good question.....what about the last 2 governon generals?
one is possibly a seperatist and has appeared in sepratist films

Even worst than that. Her husband is affiliated with communism!

 

[no1important]

All the courts that heard ssm arguements agreed it was unconstitutional to deny it, and if Parliement did not legalize it, the SCOC would of.

Man you and nero are sure a pair of homophobes.

Why not pick someone from Alberta

ha ha Remember Joe Clark? ha ha he was a joke as is Harper.

 

[Nascar_James]

Perhaps Albertans might be able to convince Ralph Klein to run for Federal politics.

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

lol....Klein is an old bugger and he will be stepping out of office in 2006.....but yea I prefer him over Paul Martin.

I am wondering who the next conservative permier of Alberta will be ...............

 

[neocon-hunter]

Stephen Harper? He is liked their and if he gets slaughtered come next election? Would he want to run provincially though?

 

[no1important]

The only thing Harper will do after next federal election is run his shrunken caucus, which will mostly be mp's from Alberta.

I kinda think old ralphie like the power and hero worship and I could even see him staying on longer....

 

[Hank C Cheyenne]

you know Harper would actually be an intresting choice for premier of Alberta.........if he can't win the federal election...he should give it a shot.........he could be like a young Preston Manning .

 

[Reverend Blair]

he could be like a young Preston Manning .

I doubt it, Manning called Harper a quitter.

Perhaps Albertans might be able to convince Ralph Klein to run for Federal politics.

Yeah, that's a good idea. The man is despised outside of Alberta. You should run him.

Even worst than that. Her husband is affiliated with communism!

Her husband isn't GG though, is he? That and the charges are largely facbricated. Even if he were, communism is a legitimate political stance and contains many facets that you latter-day McCarthyites are completely unaware of.

....good question.....what about the last 2 governon generals?

One was an anglophone, one a francophone. The position traditionally alternates between the two. Both were qualified. The last one did her job in spite of constant attacks from an uneducated, ignorant, vitrolic, and unfair radical right. I expect Ms. Jean will carry on that tradition.

actaully every province here is forced to have SSM..... its jsut not democracy because there was no national referendum on the issue!

One of the basic tenets of democracy is protecting the rights of minorities from the tyranny of the majority. That goes back to ancient Greece. It's funny how when some say they support democracy when what they actually support is mob rule...at least until the mob turns against them.


There is also the small matter of constitutionality. Denying those of the same gender the right to marry is an infringement on their rights.

Just thought of another issue the voters will ponder when come election time. Why in the world have the last 4 PM's come from Quebec? Why not pick someone from Alberta or say the Maritimes this time? Even Ontario,... many good candidates there, like Mike Harris.

Mike Harris belongs in prison over Ipperwash and the nuclear plant kick-backs. He's a perfect example of how corrupt conservatives are.

Kim Campbell was from BC. Joe Clark was from Alberta. John Diefenbaker was from Saskatchewan. There's three for you.

Part of why a lot of leaders come from Quebec is the political tradition there. It is not as dependent on sound-bites and closed-house photo-ops. There is more of a tradition of discussion and debate. That makes those who came up through the ranks in Quebec formidable opponents in a leadership run.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Re: RE: Paul the hack Martin

you know Harper would actually be an intresting choice for premier of Alberta.........if he can't win the federal election...he should give it a shot.........he could be like a young Preston Manning .

Actually I'd be quite curious how Alberta would do under Harper. At least you'd get to see how he'd run a province before he starts running 10 of them .

:lol: Ralph in federal politics would be funny though, first of all he'd have to learn French, I bet he'd butcher it as well as I. Second he'd be good business for the political cartoonists, and a gold mine for air farce, 22 minutes and other political/comedy shows.