Particle physicists want money for bigger collider

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Particle physicists want money for bigger collider
Wednesday, January 16, 2019
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What the Europeans will do is harder to predict, because
a lot depends on who has influential friends in which ministry.
But I think particle physicists have dug their own grave by giving
the public the impression that the LHC would answer some
big question, and then not being able to deliver.
Posted by Sabine Hossenfelder
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/01/particle-physicists-want-money-for.html
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Tuesday, January 22, 2019
Particle physics may have reached the end of the line
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CERN’s press release of plans for a larger particle collider,
which I wrote about last week, made international headlines.
Unfortunately, most articles about the topic just repeat the
press-release, and do not explain how much the situation
in particle physics has changed with the LHC data.

Since the late 1960s, when physicists hit on the “particle zoo”
at nuclear energies, they always had a good reason to build
a larger collider. That’s because their theories of elementary
matter were incomplete.
But now, with the Higgs-boson found in 2012, their theory –
the “standard model of particle physics” – is complete.
It’s done. There’s nothing missing. All Pokemon caught.
. . . .

Particle physicists had a good case to build the LHC with
the prediction of the Higgs-boson. But with the Higgs found,
the next larger collider has no good motivation.
The year is 2019, not 1999.

Posted by Sabine Hossenfelder
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/01/particle-physics-may-have-reached-end.html
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False Claims In Particle Physics
By Tommaso Dorigo | January 20th 2019
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'' . . . what does the idea of a "God particle" have to do with the Higgs boson?
Very, very little.
The Higgs boson is in fact the result of an almost magical mechanism,
called in its non-trivialized version "electroweak symmetry breaking" (EWSB).
. . .
The universe "chooses" one among an infinity of possible
minimum-energy states to be its vacuum, . . . ''
https://www.science20.com/tommaso_dorigo/false_claims_in_particle_physics-236226
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"God particle" was the result of an "electroweak symmetry breaking"
(EWSB). in an infinity minimum-energy states . . . of vacuum.
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a) If the Higgs boson ''completed the standard model'',
then why do ''Particle physicists want money for bigger collider'' ?
b) If '' the standard model' isn't completed, then . . . .
c) CERN / LHC principles are -
1) the higher energy and
2) the deeper vacuum
the stronger the "electroweak symmetry'' can be broken and
more new particles can be discovered.
But where is the border of this CERN's idea?
Is it LHC around our Earth ?
Or, maybe, the border of CERN's project is LHC between Earth and Moon ?
Nobody asks of the CERN's border.
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In 1911 Rutherford studied structure of atoms, bombarding them
with a- particles and this idea helped him to understand the
inner structure of atom.
Then it was decided that accelerators are better source
to bomb micro particles and to understand their inner structure.
The results of this bombing was stunning: more than 1000 new
strange particles appeared (from 1931) but nobody was possible
to unite them and therefore most of them were thrown out and
only a few (about 20) particles received permission to take
part in ''The Standard Model of elementary particles''
But . . .
''The Standard Model simply can't explain some of the most
prevalent and fundamental features of the universe;
. . . . . how gravity behaves at the subatomic,
particle physics scales where quantum rules rule.''
https://phys.org/news/2015-01-standard.html
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It is very strange, . . . to create gravity at LHC we don't need
to bomb particles, we need to gather all 1000+ micro particles together.
It seems that the LHC and ''The Standard Model'' never will be complected.
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