Ontario PCs need to sort out their position on Sex Ed

relic

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So,you don't think maybe manufacturing is gone because we priced ourselves out of the market ? So you don't think maybe sex ed would lessen the burden on welfare by reducing unwanted pregnancy's,or the health care system by reducing stds ? Maybe like most cons,you just don't think.
 

Curious Cdn

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So,you don't think maybe manufacturing is gone because we priced ourselves out of the market ? So you don't think maybe sex ed would lessen the burden on welfare by reducing unwanted pregnancy's,or the health care system by reducing stds ? Maybe like most cons,you just don't think.

I have worked in (and still work in) manufacturing for the last three decades. It ha put food on our table and a roof over our heads .. neither of which service sector jobs can supply, living in the GTA.

Any sort of nanufacturing that produces a million identical anythings have gone to cheap labour places, forever and never to return. We can still manufacture products here that have a high custom content or have a time sensitive nature ( anything at all that goes into building construction falls into this category) The Chinese can't do either and time, distance and attitude will prevent them from ever doing so.

Have we priced ourselves out of the market? Yes, if you are referring to losing the identical widget producing jobs but who of us wants to try living on Chinese wages? The only contribution that China has made is cheap labour. They don't design or create anything new. They copy. You are seeing the newest version of an ancient slave culture at work and it is hard to compete against, in many instances.

Factors like high electricity prices drive the sorts of manufacturing that we can still do to other, friendlier juristictions. The hungry American Rust Belt is chock-ablock with towns and counties who will do just about anything, offer all sorts of goodies, to lure what's left away. Hydro prices score a big minus for Ontario (Canadian health insurance rates are a big plus).

BTW, Check the statistics and you will find that teen pregnancies are not a huge problem, here. It is a big problem in the urban USA among the black population and in North and West Canada in the First Nations communities. Canada scores auite low compared to similar countries. Sex Ed is okay, I guess but it is really not a pressing issue for anyone living here, now. The Liberal brain trust had better start thinking about real and important issues or they are out in the curb the next time around ( check your polls).
 
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Machjo

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So,you don't think maybe manufacturing is gone because we priced ourselves out of the market ? So you don't think maybe sex ed would lessen the burden on welfare by reducing unwanted pregnancy's,or the health care system by reducing stds ? Maybe like most cons,you just don't think.

I'm not against sex ed per se, but it goes well beyond the basics now.
 

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Brown is starting to look like a real moron. Can't keep his story straight......


Questions about Patrick Brown's role in a sex-ed controversy resurfaced Friday as new information appeared to suggest the Progressive Conservative leader was aware of a promise his party would scrap the updated curriculum.

Brown's chief of staff, Nicolas Pappalardo, wrote in an email on the morning of Aug. 18 -- more than a week before the leader has said he became aware of a letter making the same promise -- that he had sent an anti-sex-ed group "the statement Patrick was prepared to make."

"The Wynne Liberal government has ignored parents and introduced a controversial sexual health education curriculum against the will of parents," read part of the statement in the email obtained by The Canadian Press. "If elected, a PC Government would introduce a new curriculum after thoughtful and full consultation with parents."

Brown's office would not comment Friday on the latest developments, but the PC leader has previously said he did not see a letter with a similar message before it was distributed in an east Toronto riding during a recent byelection, where the curriculum was unpopular.

The statement from Brown referenced in Pappalardo's email that day also said, "teachers should teach facts, not values."

Brown made the same statement while speaking at a February 2015 anti-sex-ed rally, but has never explained what parts of the curriculum he felt were values as opposed to facts.

Brown 'was prepared' to say he'd scrap sex-ed curriculum, according to email | CTV Toronto News