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Without knowing all the details can this be the U.S.A. pushing Israel to attack Iran to draw the Russians in ? Sounds like buckle up the chin straps time.
 

Ron in Regina

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Without knowing all the details can this be the U.S.A. pushing Israel to attack Iran to draw the Russians in ? Sounds like buckle up the chin straps time.
I have no idea, but….If that was the case, couldn’t they have accomplished the same with a whole lot less steps? Keeping the whole Middle East separate?
 

Ron in Regina

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??On Monday, Trump — before leaving the G7 summit to focus on the conflict in the Middle East — said ejecting Putin from the G8 in 2014 was a “mistake,” and suggested Russia wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine if it were still a member of the group??
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1750253613152.jpegYet, Iranically, Israel’s preemptively stepping up against Iran will weaken Russia and in turn help Ukraine, so there is that.
Iranically, at day 620 since Iran’s proxies openly attacked Israel in this latest chapter in the goat rodeo, the only thing proactive and preemptive in Israel’s actions is that they’re the first to do so.
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EU's top diplomat warns that Russia has a plan for long-term aggression against Europe
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Lorne Cook
Published Jun 18, 2025 • 2 minute read

BRUSSELS — Russia poses a direct threat to the European Union through acts of sabotage and cyberattacks, but its massive military spending suggests that President Vladimir Putin also plans to use his armed forces elsewhere in the future, the EU’s top diplomat warned on Wednesday.


“Russia is already a direct threat to the European Union,” EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas said. She listed a series of Russian airspace violations, provocative military exercises, and attacks on energy grids, pipelines and undersea cables.


Kallas noted that Russia is already spending more on defense than the EU’s 27 nations combined, and this year will invest more “on defense than its own health care, education and social policy combined.”

“This is a long-term plan for a long-term aggression. You don’t spend that much on (the) military, if you do not plan to use it,” Kallas told EU lawmakers in Strasbourg, France.

“Europe is under attack and our continent sits in a world becoming more dangerous,” she added.


NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte has said that Russia is producing as much weapons and ammunition in three months as the 32 allies together make in a year. He believes that Russia could be in a position to launch an attack on a NATO ally by the end of the decade.

The acts of sabotage and cyberattacks are mostly aimed at undermining European support for Ukraine, military officers and experts have said.

But concern is mounting in Europe that Russia could try to test NATO’s Article 5 security guarantee — the pledge that an attack on any one of the allies would be met with a collective response from all 32.

In 2021, NATO allies acknowledged that significant and cumulative cyberattacks might, in certain circumstances, also be considered an armed attack that could lead them to invoke Article 5, but so far no action has been taken.


With the Trump administration now turning its sights on security challenges in the Middle East and China, Europe has been left to fend for itself, and for Ukraine, and finds itself in a more precarious position.

Last week, the head of Germany’s foreign intelligence service (BND), Bruno Kahl, warned against underestimating Russian intentions toward the West and NATO.

“We are very certain, and we have intelligence evidence for this, that Ukraine is just a step on the path to the West,” Kahl told the Table Today podcast on June 9, according to German news agency dpa.

Russia’s goal is to expand its sphere of influence westward, the BND chief said.

“They want to catapult NATO back to the state it was in at the end of the 1990s. They want to kick America out of Europe, and they’ll use any means to achieve that,” Kahl said.

He warned that “this must be nipped in the bud,” and that deterrence is the “most bloodless way” to prevent war. NATO countries are set to agree a new defense investment pledge at a summit in the Netherlands next week, pouring billions of dollars more into security-related spending.

— Kirsten Grieshaber contributed to this report from Berlin.
 

petros

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EU's top diplomat warns that Russia has a plan for long-term aggression against Europe
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Lorne Cook
Published Jun 18, 2025 • 2 minute read

BRUSSELS — Russia poses a direct threat to the European Union through acts of sabotage and cyberattacks, but its massive military spending suggests that President Vladimir Putin also plans to use his armed forces elsewhere in the future, the EU’s top diplomat warned on Wednesday.


“Russia is already a direct threat to the European Union,” EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas said. She listed a series of Russian airspace violations, provocative military exercises, and attacks on energy grids, pipelines and undersea cables.


Kallas noted that Russia is already spending more on defense than the EU’s 27 nations combined, and this year will invest more “on defense than its own health care, education and social policy combined.”

“This is a long-term plan for a long-term aggression. You don’t spend that much on (the) military, if you do not plan to use it,” Kallas told EU lawmakers in Strasbourg, France.

“Europe is under attack and our continent sits in a world becoming more dangerous,” she added.


NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte has said that Russia is producing as much weapons and ammunition in three months as the 32 allies together make in a year. He believes that Russia could be in a position to launch an attack on a NATO ally by the end of the decade.

The acts of sabotage and cyberattacks are mostly aimed at undermining European support for Ukraine, military officers and experts have said.

But concern is mounting in Europe that Russia could try to test NATO’s Article 5 security guarantee — the pledge that an attack on any one of the allies would be met with a collective response from all 32.

In 2021, NATO allies acknowledged that significant and cumulative cyberattacks might, in certain circumstances, also be considered an armed attack that could lead them to invoke Article 5, but so far no action has been taken.


With the Trump administration now turning its sights on security challenges in the Middle East and China, Europe has been left to fend for itself, and for Ukraine, and finds itself in a more precarious position.

Last week, the head of Germany’s foreign intelligence service (BND), Bruno Kahl, warned against underestimating Russian intentions toward the West and NATO.

“We are very certain, and we have intelligence evidence for this, that Ukraine is just a step on the path to the West,” Kahl told the Table Today podcast on June 9, according to German news agency dpa.

Russia’s goal is to expand its sphere of influence westward, the BND chief said.

“They want to catapult NATO back to the state it was in at the end of the 1990s. They want to kick America out of Europe, and they’ll use any means to achieve that,” Kahl said.

He warned that “this must be nipped in the bud,” and that deterrence is the “most bloodless way” to prevent war. NATO countries are set to agree a new defense investment pledge at a summit in the Netherlands next week, pouring billions of dollars more into security-related spending.

— Kirsten Grieshaber contributed to this report from Berlin.
Riiiiight. And Iran holocaust has holocaust nukes. Holocaust. Holocaust. Holocaust.
If you say holocaust enough it becomes true in feeble minds holocaust.
 

Ron in Regina

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Yet, Iranically, Israel’s preemptively stepping up against Iran will weaken Russia and in turn help Ukraine, so there is that.
Riiiiight. And Iran holocaust has holocaust nukes. Holocaust. Holocaust. Holocaust.
If you say holocaust enough it becomes true in feeble minds holocaust.
Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement in support of the U.S. strikes on Iran, asserting that “peaceful efforts to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons have been ongoing for years, but they have not yielded effective results.”

“We are convinced that the measures taken by the United States and Israel against Iranian nuclear facilities have sent a clear message to the Iranian regime—a message that the continuation of policies aimed at destabilizing regional security is unacceptable,” the statement read.

The statement also linked the conflict in the Middle East to Ukraine's ongoing war with Russia, calling Iran “complicit” for providing Russia with military technology.

“We are confident that a decisive policy of ‘peace through strength,’ which is already depriving the Iranian regime of the means to spread terror and destabilization, is capable of strengthening international peace and security not only in the Middle East but also in Europe,” the statement added, before saying that it joins international calls for de-escalation and diplomacy…vs…

Russia’s Foreign Ministry shared a statement on Telegram condemning the airstrikes and calling them “a dangerous escalation... fraught with further undermining of regional and global security.”

The governmental body called the strikes “a gross violation of international law, the U.N. Charter, and U.N. Security Council resolutions” and called for an "end to aggression and for increased efforts to create conditions for returning the situation to a political and diplomatic track."
 

Taxslave2

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Without knowing all the details can this be the U.S.A. pushing Israel to attack Iran to draw the Russians in ? Sounds like buckle up the chin straps time.
Seems unlikely. The past couple of decades of left leaning governments in the West has produced a lot of trash that needs to be taken to the dump. Now is spring cleaning.
 

petros

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Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement in support of the U.S. strikes on Iran, asserting that “peaceful efforts to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons have been ongoing for years, but they have not yielded effective results.”

“We are convinced that the measures taken by the United States and Israel against Iranian nuclear facilities have sent a clear message to the Iranian regime—a message that the continuation of policies aimed at destabilizing regional security is unacceptable,” the statement read.

The statement also linked the conflict in the Middle East to Ukraine's ongoing war with Russia, calling Iran “complicit” for providing Russia with military technology.

“We are confident that a decisive policy of ‘peace through strength,’ which is already depriving the Iranian regime of the means to spread terror and destabilization, is capable of strengthening international peace and security not only in the Middle East but also in Europe,” the statement added, before saying that it joins international calls for de-escalation and diplomacy…vs…

Russia’s Foreign Ministry shared a statement on Telegram condemning the airstrikes and calling them “a dangerous escalation... fraught with further undermining of regional and global security.”

The governmental body called the strikes “a gross violation of international law, the U.N. Charter, and U.N. Security Council resolutions” and called for an "end to aggression and for increased efforts to create conditions for returning the situation to a political and diplomatic track."
Ukrainians are the new badasses. Fighting Wagner in Africa and ISIS in Syria too.