Obama’s Stimulus To The American People

[Liberalman]

The President Bush’s Republican Party started the bailout program with the financial institutions and the two big mortgage companies to head off a depression.

When the Democrats came into power they continued the plan by expanding it to the big three automakers.

The taxpayers started to complain like they always do but were told that it’s either jobs or massive unemployment.

Now President Obama has a couple of bills going through the Congress and Senate that deals with a National government administered healthcare program.

I was listening to Bill Mahar show a couple of weeks ago and they were discussing the National Healthcare program and someone mentioned that the people that pay for their healthcare programs get kicked out of the system if they get sick too much even after paying the company high premiums for many years.

On the Obama’s town hall meeting last week on TV on government healthcare there was a lot of hard questions and Obama answered them with confidence.

The basic message was America’s private healthcare is broken and the government can fix it.

Once Americans get their national healthcare and they start coming home from the hospitals that had major surgeries that would have cost them more money that they had and realize that it has been paid for by their taxes they will never give it up.

A CBS 60 Minute report showed that drug companies charge a lot less to foreign countries that have government healthcare.

American seniors have been coming up to Canada on day trips for years just to get the cheaper prescription drugs.

Hospitals will charge the government a lot less because the government can get easy access to their financial books.

Believe it or not even the lawsuits decrease.

In Canada government healthcare was introduced in the 1960’s in the province of Saskatchewan and it took about ten years before all of Canada adopted it.

IN Canada the Conservatives tried to get rid of this new healthcare and they were usually voted out of office the next election.

Because of national healthcare people started to notice more money at the end of the month.

If Obama can do this then the Democrats will be in power for a long time

 

[Trex]

Your a tad premature.
The Obama administration is miles away from an integrated, socialised medical system.
They haven't even sketched in the vague outlines yet.

At the moment the Obama administration is still working on banking and financial regulations and systems.
They just pushed through an early bill on cap and trade which has yet to go through the house and will take months and months to fully integrate and will undoubtedly swell up to something half the size of the Library of Congress.

They are scheming up a few more protectionist bills to try and pass so as to stimulate local businesses over foreign ones.

And they are all lobbying and haggling over who and where gets the stimulus funding.

I wouldn't be holding my breath for a comprehensive health care system to be adopted any time soon.

I bet them HMO's are lobbying up a storm though.

Trex

 

[Liberalman]

I bet them HMO's are lobbying up a storm though.

Lot of Americans in graves because of the HMO's inactions

 

[ironsides]

This new tarp bill the Senate passed a couple of days ago is a disaster. Obama and the Senate seem to forget who they represent, they represent us, not Washington bureaucrats.

As we all know, pending proposals would balloon the deficit to $1.8 trillion, bankrupt private insurers, and force employers to eliminate jobs. And opposition is growing -- a new report shows that the broad majority of Americans think health care costs would go up, not down, under the current plans.

Time to remember why we had the Boston Tea Party.

 

[Walter]

Lot of Americans in graves because of the HMO's inactions

Lots of Canadians in graves due to queing for service.

 

[#juan]

Canada’s health system beats U.S. in cost and results

There are many successful health care systems the Americans could used including the Canadian system. Why are they dragging their feet?

 

[ironsides]

The HMO's are the only ones who stand to gain from Obama's Health Plan. Right now Americans have a choice. Once that choice is taken or driven away we will be like most of the other shlunks in Europe and in Canada, just cattle being lead to the slaughter. Most people know what is the best health plan for themselves, we do not need "Big Brother" telling us. Canada's health plan does not beat what we have in the U.S. I and the majority of Americans stand to lose under what is being proposed. I can see and go to any doctor of my choice.

 

[ironsides]

US: Health Care (Quinnipiac 6/23-29)

Some of you like quoting polls: Quinnipiac
6/23-29/09; 3,063 registered voters, 1.8% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews.
Source: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1344
National
Would you be willing or unwilling to pay more in taxes for a health care overhaul plan that reduces health care costs and covers those who don't have health insurance?
49% Willing, 45% Unwilling
Would you support or oppose a new tax on employees for the health care benefits that they receive from their employers?
30% Support, 63% Oppose
Do you support or oppose requiring people to have health insurance?
44% Support, 51% Oppose
Do you support or oppose giving people the option of being covered by a government health insurance plan that would compete with private plans?
69% Support, 26% Oppose

 

[TenPenny]

A CBS 60 Minute report showed that drug companies charge a lot less to foreign countries that have government healthcare.

American seniors have been coming up to Canada on day trips for years just to get the cheaper prescription drugs.

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IN Canada the Conservatives tried to get rid of this new healthcare and they were usually voted out of office the next election.

Because of national healthcare people started to notice more money at the end of the month.

Prescription drugs are a totally separate issue. There is no gov't plan for prescription drugs in Canada, how do you explain your conclusions?

I don't think many people started to notice more money at the end of the month.

 

[Walter]

On the Obama’s town hall meeting last week on TV on government healthcare there was a lot of hard questions and Obama answered them with confidence.

Obama’s Town Hall sham

8:57 am July 2, 2009, by jwooten
Presidents are free to stage their conversations with the American people however they choose. But some members of the White House press corps, including CBS’ Chip Reid and press room fixture Helen Thomas, are among those upset that this President is using stage-managed “Town Hall” events as pretend press conferences.
President Obama’s hug for the cancer victim, an Obama volunteer, gets the media attention, but of the seven questions he addressed, four were selected by his staff from groups supportive of his health care agenda, including the Service Employees International Union and Health Care for America Now. One of the questioners came from a group that is a part of the Democratic National Committee.
At the Town Hall, Obama waved hugged Debby Smith, who said she had kidney cancer and had been unable to get insurance, saying, “I don’t want you to feel like you’re all alone.” He promised help and offered her as the “perfect example” of the sufferer his efforts are intended to help.
It’s fair enough for Presidents to hold Town Hall meetings and to pretend that he’s taking questions from something other than an infomercial audience. But it is phony, the stuff of campaign commercials. The White House press corps is right to challenge the pretense that a legitimate give-and-take represented as a news event is being held when it’s a sham.

 

[YukonJack]

Arnold bankrupted California.

Hussain is following Arnold's example.

California bankrupt today, United States bankrupt tomorrow.

 

[Liberalman]

My original quote

Because of national healthcare people started to notice more money at the end of the month.

When national health care came into effect there was just a 20% out of pocket expense as well a monthly premium then no out of pocked expence because the government covered it all.

This means the money that you would have paid for medical expense stayed in your pocket.

Drug companies have to sell their drugs at a cheaper rate to drug stores in countries that have government healthcare this is why older Americans are getting their dugs here because drugs costs more in the US

 

[TenPenny]

My original quote



When national health care came into effect there was just a 20% out of pocket expense as well a monthly premium then no out of pocked expence because the government covered it all.

This means the money that you would have paid for medical expense stayed in your pocket.

Drug companies have to sell their drugs at a cheaper rate to drug stores in countries that have government healthcare this is why older Americans are getting their dugs here because drugs costs more in the US

When national healthcare came into effect, each Province was allowed to either charge an annual fee, or raise provincial taxes to cover the costs.

For example, for many years, people in Ontario paid OSIP and OHIP (Ontario Sickness Insurance Plan, and Ontario Hospital Insurance Plan) premiums. Some provinces simply raised the level of the PST - for example, NB had at one point up as high as 13% PST.

Drug companies in Canada set their prices at a lower rate partly due to a tradeoff with the federal gov't, by which they were granted longer patent protection. In return, they establish prices for prescription meds.

You leave out a lot of facts in your posts.