New prostitution law in place.

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
No you're not sharp, because most prostitutes do not own their bodies, they are forced to sell their bodies.

Since I don't know "most" prostitutes like you do, I'll leave those types of generalizations to you.

I understand your need to bring kids into it. Clearly it's all you have left....well that and your pedantic name calling.

But you'll say anything to justify your reasons for buying sex.. personally, I feel sorry for your daughters and think child services should get them soon.

You have a sick mind.

Coming from you, I consider that a complement. I think people like me need to expose people like you at every opportunity. Today it's making prostitution illegal because you don't think it's a wise choice. Tomorrow you'll be trying to ban McDonalds, then Molsons. Gotta love social engineers.
 

B00Mer

Make Canada Great Again
Sep 6, 2008
47,127
8,145
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.canadianforums.ca
Boomer,that video is an extreme example, but even when rape and trafficking are not involved, it still has an impact on the mental health of both the prostitute and the client. Some studies have found that even the client is not always involved entirely if his own free will very much like the gambling addict.

Prostitution is abuse and power from the John.
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
As I said before, if you think it's such a great career, sign up your sister or daughter.

In what world do we get the right to sign up anyone other than ourselves up for any particular job? If they want to do that, its up to them, not us.
 

Machjo

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 19, 2004
17,878
61
48
Ottawa, ON
So regulate it, but keeping it illegal and unregulated as is does far more harm than good (if it does any good at all).
That I can agree to. Cigarettes and alcohol advertising are better regulated than the advertising of sexual services.
In fact I'm not sure whether prostitution itself ought to be regulated or only its advertising to ensure it is coupled with appropriate educational content SK that consenting partners can make an informed and educated decision.
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
So if your sister or daughter started to sell her body for sex you would not try and stop her?????

I'd probably try to talk them out of it given the way it is now. If it was legal and regulated as it is in say Nevada, Id go for a "Dont ask dont tell" policy on it.
 

B00Mer

Make Canada Great Again
Sep 6, 2008
47,127
8,145
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.canadianforums.ca
Coming from you, I consider that a complement. I think people like me need to expose people like you at every opportunity. Today it's making prostitution illegal because you don't think it's a wise choice. Tomorrow you'll be trying to ban McDonalds, then Molsons. Gotta love social engineers.



You are such a drooling idiot.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
Cannuck, would you at least support an informed decision?

Of course. If my child wanted to be a prostitute, I would ensure he/she had all the information I could give them. I'm not suggesting prostitution is a good lifestyle choice just like I'm not suggesting a Big Mac a day is an important part of a quality diet. I just don't favour the Boomer approach of banning things because of negative consequences
 

Machjo

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 19, 2004
17,878
61
48
Ottawa, ON
Prostitution is abuse and power from the John.
The simple fact that the John has the money and the pristitute needs the money makes that true. You could imagine a John offering 200.00 and saying he'll double the amount bareback. Even if he let's her decide, if she is desperate enough for money then her 'free' decision is not truly free.
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
In fact I'm not sure whether prostitution itself ought to be regulated or only its advertising to ensure it is coupled with appropriate educational content SK that consenting partners can make an informed and educated decision.

If you regulate prostitution you can reduce the risk to both the prostitute and the client when it comes to STDs and keep it off the streets.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
Boomer,that video is an extreme example, but even when rape and trafficking are not involved, it still has an impact on the mental health of both the prostitute and the client. Some studies have found that even the client is not always involved entirely if his own free will very much like the gambling addict.

Boomer has to bring children into it because he's lost the argument so miserably. Nobody here is arguing for the use of children as sex toys. He simply arguing against himself
 

Machjo

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 19, 2004
17,878
61
48
Ottawa, ON
If you regulate prostitution you can reduce the risk to both the prostitute and the client when it comes to STDs and keep it off the streets.
I have a clear idea of how to regulate the online advertising of sexual services to ensure that is is coupled with relevant quality educational content.
As for regulating prostitution itself, I am less sure.

I am open to ideas on that though. Also, since some prostitutes might be in Canada illegally, what protection do we provide them? Again, I don't have a clear idea on that front either.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
The simple fact that the John has the money and the pristitute needs the money makes that true. You could imagine a John offering 200.00 and saying he'll double the amount bareback. Even if he let's her decide, if she is desperate enough for money then her 'free' decision is not truly free.

The fact that I have money and a business needs my money means I have the power. I can understand why free enterprise bothers boomer. Social engineers are like that
 

Machjo

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 19, 2004
17,878
61
48
Ottawa, ON
The fact that I have money and a business needs my money means I have the power. I can understand why free enterprise bothers boomer. Social engineers are like that

Sorry Cannuck, but there is a difference between buying sexual services and buying a Big Mac. The social harm caused by prostitution is far worse and does involve coercion even when the choice seems voluntary.
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
Sorry Cannuck, but there is a difference between buying sexual services and buying a Big Mac. The social harm caused by prostitution is far worse and does involve coercion even when the choice seems voluntary.

And Big Macs cause long term health problems. We have an obesity epidemic. Both have problems, theyre just different problems.
 

Machjo

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 19, 2004
17,878
61
48
Ottawa, ON
So Cannuck, what are your views of other addictive behaviour or substances, whether gambling, tobacco, alcohol, narcotics, etc. Should they be regulated or not?
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
I am open to ideas on that though. Also, since some prostitutes might be in Canada illegally, what protection do we provide them? Again, I don't have a clear idea on that front either.

Depends on the circumstances. Protection from those who may be forcing them into it and holding them in Canada illegal. Protection against clients who may have abused them. Legalizing and regulating prostitution will not change the legality of human trafficking or physical and sexual abuse.
 

Cannuck

Time Out
Feb 2, 2006
30,245
99
48
Alberta
Sorry Cannuck, but there is a difference between buying sexual services and buying a Big Mac. The social harm caused by prostitution is far worse and does involve coercion even when the choice seems voluntary.

Are you saying there is no social harm from fast food?

Look I get there are people like you and Boomer that like to protect people from themselves. That's why Canada has the nanny state.
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
The simple fact that the John has the money and the pristitute needs the money makes that true. You could imagine a John offering 200.00 and saying he'll double the amount bareback. Even if he let's her decide, if she is desperate enough for money then her 'free' decision is not truly free.

That could be said for damn near any profession. The fact that she has no recourse is only the case because she has no one to go to as the profession is illegal at the moment. If the law allowed her to have her own place of business and hire her own protection and perhaps have a union or a way to press charges against the client things would be different.