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i totally agree, just watched anaheim/philly - centre ice chan.
the refs. are making fools of themselves.
The calls are made as soon as anyone touches anyone with their stick, you should be able to touch with your stick, it's part of your equipment, but don't "hook", and so many penalties are called when there
hasn't been any hooking at all. Other player squeezes his arm against the stick, and makes it look like
hooking, they should be called for "false hook" ? or whatever, it's making mockery of game, I have
watched hockey for about 50 years now, and game is getting too tame. I like the speed, but it is at
the expense of the toughness, we could have both. I guess refs. can't tell on many occasions if it is
a real hook or not, so they just call all of them, it's , awful.
On the boards, the hitting has almost stopped, as soon as someone hits and puts their hands on the other
player, he is called for holding, when in most occasions they aren't holding.
And, in front of the net, there are so many non calls, because as soon as refs. decide they are going to
blow whistle, all hell breaks out, punching, and cross checking, no whistle.
Goalies are run over all the time, some are called, but most are not.
i totally agree, just watched anaheim/philly - centre ice chan.
the refs. are making fools of themselves.
The calls are made as soon as anyone touches anyone with their stick, you should be able to touch with your stick, it's part of your equipment, but don't "hook", and so many penalties are called when there
hasn't been any hooking at all. Other player squeezes his arm against the stick, and makes it look like
hooking, they should be called for "false hook" ? or whatever, it's making mockery of game, I have
watched hockey for about 50 years now, and game is getting too tame. I like the speed, but it is at
the expense of the toughness, we could have both. I guess refs. can't tell on many occasions if it is
a real hook or not, so they just call all of them, it's , awful.
On the boards, the hitting has almost stopped, as soon as someone hits and puts their hands on the other
player, he is called for holding, when in most occasions they aren't holding.
And, in front of the net, there are so many non calls, because as soon as refs. decide they are going to
blow whistle, all hell breaks out, punching, and cross checking, no whistle.
Goalies are run over all the time, some are called, but most are not.
Hey Tallola, I was born and raised in New Westminster too. Herbert Spencer Elementary and NWSS. Grew up near Queens Park and say just about every Ernie McLean New West Bruin shenanigan. I did live in Courtenay for a while, now in Campbell River.
You got me beat on watching hockey. I'm about 37 years watching.
You got me beat on watching hockey. I'm about 37 years watching.
no kidding
grew up on 5th ave. and 3rd st went to.
st. annes acad., then herbert spencer, then n.w.j.h., then trapp tech.
went to many bruins games, married a guy from queensboro, went to school together
I loved growing up in New Westminster, but I hear it isn't a very nice place to live any longer.
nice meeting you
grew up on 5th ave. and 3rd st went to.
st. annes acad., then herbert spencer, then n.w.j.h., then trapp tech.
went to many bruins games, married a guy from queensboro, went to school together
I loved growing up in New Westminster, but I hear it isn't a very nice place to live any longer.
nice meeting you
Nice meeting you too. My mom still lives there. It's really bad now. I see the old Herbert Spencer is gone. Back in our day New Westminster was a great place. Now it's overrun with drug addicts. I married a Surrey girl. I know, they warned me.
love the island
we lived in surrey for 13 yrs. kids grew up there. Just of 140th and 79A. Bear Cr. Elem and Frank Hurt
thenPrincess Margaret
My husband has relatives in New West., they have never gone anywhere else, so sad.
We love the island, came here in l980, just "up" and moved, never looked back.
Can't believe Herbert Spencer is gone. I used to go and watch New Westminster Royals practice,
I was a hockey lover since I was about 9 yrs. old, used to listen on radio as a kid, I was only one
in the house who did.
Guyle Fielder was my idol, maybe your too young to remember him.
we lived in surrey for 13 yrs. kids grew up there. Just of 140th and 79A. Bear Cr. Elem and Frank Hurt
thenPrincess Margaret
My husband has relatives in New West., they have never gone anywhere else, so sad.
We love the island, came here in l980, just "up" and moved, never looked back.
Can't believe Herbert Spencer is gone. I used to go and watch New Westminster Royals practice,
I was a hockey lover since I was about 9 yrs. old, used to listen on radio as a kid, I was only one
in the house who did.
Guyle Fielder was my idol, maybe your too young to remember him.
It's HOCKEY, not fencing. The stick is for the puck, not to hack at the opponents. Now I understand the issue. Some people don't understand what the game of hockey is all about, I guess because they've grown up with the hacker/bully/thug version. If you want a sport that involves hacking the opponents with the stick, I recommend lacrosse. It's incredible to watch.
As far as football being a thinking game, that's funny. Who does the thinking? The coach, over on the sidelines. Surely not the guys on the field.
I played hockey for many years, and coached hockey for many more. I have level 5 Canadian coaching certification.
Lifting another player's stick has been in hockey for as long as the game has been around yet I've seen it called as hooking. Batting another player's stick aside is part of the game, but that is now often called slashing. Any stick work above the waist should be watched, but in the last Canuck's game I saw a player called for cross-checking when he shoved another player accross the hip. Cross checking has always meant a violent hit, with two hands on the stick, above the waist. Not a "shove" on the hip. Hockey is a physical contact sport. If there is not physical contact, it is not hockey..
Lifting another player's stick has been in hockey for as long as the game has been around yet I've seen it called as hooking. Batting another player's stick aside is part of the game, but that is now often called slashing. Any stick work above the waist should be watched, but in the last Canuck's game I saw a player called for cross-checking when he shoved another player accross the hip. Cross checking has always meant a violent hit, with two hands on the stick, above the waist. Not a "shove" on the hip. Hockey is a physical contact sport. If there is not physical contact, it is not hockey..
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You made some comment about contacting another player with a stick...that's a whole different thing than stick checking.
be reasonable
no one wants to see" hacking" or any other illegal infractions.
but this game is a very physical game, lots of body contact, and at the rate they are calling penalties
the players will eventually stop touching each other all together.
what has happened to "real" body checking. I am glad the goons have dissapeared, and I am glad
there is no more planned fights, that was very tacky, and I am very glad of the speed in the game
now, and the "right" for a talented player to be able play the game without someone holding and hooking
and hanging on. But the stick "can" legally be used for checking, and the refs aren't allowing that, and
the player being checked is grabbing onto the stick with his arm or body and creating a "hooking" call.
They have to stop that. It is very difficult for a player to check someone without touching him with his
stick at all, what should he do with it, put it in his pocket! The player is suppose to keep both his hands
on his stick while checking, and not "touch" the other player with it,come on now, just try that.
The "quality" of referring has dropped, and
now they have to address that problem. Far too many whistles, they interrupt the flow of the play, so
many players can't figure out what they did to get a penalty. I'm glad they are calling more "dives" now,
and I am glad the "big slugs" are out of the game, and anyone who can't keep up with the skating
shouldn't be out there, so that aspect of the New NHL is good.
no one wants to see" hacking" or any other illegal infractions.
but this game is a very physical game, lots of body contact, and at the rate they are calling penalties
the players will eventually stop touching each other all together.
what has happened to "real" body checking. I am glad the goons have dissapeared, and I am glad
there is no more planned fights, that was very tacky, and I am very glad of the speed in the game
now, and the "right" for a talented player to be able play the game without someone holding and hooking
and hanging on. But the stick "can" legally be used for checking, and the refs aren't allowing that, and
the player being checked is grabbing onto the stick with his arm or body and creating a "hooking" call.
They have to stop that. It is very difficult for a player to check someone without touching him with his
stick at all, what should he do with it, put it in his pocket! The player is suppose to keep both his hands
on his stick while checking, and not "touch" the other player with it,come on now, just try that.
The "quality" of referring has dropped, and
now they have to address that problem. Far too many whistles, they interrupt the flow of the play, so
many players can't figure out what they did to get a penalty. I'm glad they are calling more "dives" now,
and I am glad the "big slugs" are out of the game, and anyone who can't keep up with the skating
shouldn't be out there, so that aspect of the New NHL is good.
I can't sit through an entire game because of calls like those. I want to see tough 5 on 5 play, not 30 minutes of powerplays where no one skates, hits, or does anything at all but pass it around the perimeter until someone tries to score a garbage goal.
My dad was a big Royals fan but before my time. I didn't really watch them but I remember watching the Smyr Flyers.
Some people never leave New West. I don't know what the attraction is. The best thing I ever did was get out of there. I left in '88.
new westminster
I was married there at St. Peters Church in l958
We were both born in St. Marys Hospital
Learned to skate at Queens Park Arena, and so did my kids when they were very small.
Participated in Totem Ice Carnival three times
When did Herbert Spender dissapear, and why, well, guess it was just too old.
New Westminster was a wonderful city, so much history, used to be b.c. capital.
My dad used to walk me down to the docks every Sunday to see all the freighters and the river,
that muddy Fraser.
My brother in law tells us about all the bad stuff there now, and it is very sad, as when I was a kid
and young adult, it was a very respectable place, and the people were very proud of their city.
I was married there at St. Peters Church in l958
We were both born in St. Marys Hospital
Learned to skate at Queens Park Arena, and so did my kids when they were very small.
Participated in Totem Ice Carnival three times
When did Herbert Spender dissapear, and why, well, guess it was just too old.
New Westminster was a wonderful city, so much history, used to be b.c. capital.
My dad used to walk me down to the docks every Sunday to see all the freighters and the river,
that muddy Fraser.
My brother in law tells us about all the bad stuff there now, and it is very sad, as when I was a kid
and young adult, it was a very respectable place, and the people were very proud of their city.
I was born in St Mary's Hospital in 1961. Small world.
The old Herbert Spencer school was torn down about 10 years ago. It was replaced but I think is under a different name.
The world sure has changed. When I was a kid I would go through Queens Park by myself at night. Even at pre-teen. It really was a great city.
the past
my first daughter was born in st. mary's hospital in l961 - Feb. 7
we used to play all over queens park, in the forest, everywhere, wonder if anyone dares to set foot
in there now.
also Moody Park, we were there all summer, in Kiwanis pool, at the ball games, or just hanging out,
we are now told that no one, absolutely no one will walk through that park, that makes me real sad.
The only thing that ever happened to us is that one night when we were at a Royals hockey game,
someone stole our little l950 ford club coupe, which was all fixed, complete with white leather
upholstery, they found it a few weeks later, completely stripped, we loved that car.
my first daughter was born in st. mary's hospital in l961 - Feb. 7
we used to play all over queens park, in the forest, everywhere, wonder if anyone dares to set foot
in there now.
also Moody Park, we were there all summer, in Kiwanis pool, at the ball games, or just hanging out,
we are now told that no one, absolutely no one will walk through that park, that makes me real sad.
The only thing that ever happened to us is that one night when we were at a Royals hockey game,
someone stole our little l950 ford club coupe, which was all fixed, complete with white leather
upholstery, they found it a few weeks later, completely stripped, we loved that car.
Opened up game
Thanks to god for the new direction!!!!
In former years you could barely see the hockey for all the hooking, grabbing, trapping in the neutral zone, bull#%$t!!
With the new officiating, the good players can finally showcase thier game again, (i.e. Gretzky styling) and the mediocre players, with no game but their holding and hooking can fade into oblivion. Certainly this will be tough to stomach for teams that didn't really have much of a skating or finesse game, and other teams that had a hard time competing with no room to skate will find more success.
Don't get me entirely wrong however, there have been some brutal calls in getting this trend going down the right path. And, some players will/do milk the new initiative to draw more penalties. There has to be a balance. I'd like to see the calls for the cheap plays and riding players from behind get called, and the divers get called for unsportsmanlike conduct.
It's a steep learning curve now, still near the beginning of the season, and the ref have been instructed to make these calls to beat the notion into the players (and coaches heads) but it won't last forever. The calls will lighten up, players will learn the new game, and we'll be left watching hockey instead of WWF. Now that's something I change the channel on.
Go Oilers!
Thanks to god for the new direction!!!!
In former years you could barely see the hockey for all the hooking, grabbing, trapping in the neutral zone, bull#%$t!!
With the new officiating, the good players can finally showcase thier game again, (i.e. Gretzky styling) and the mediocre players, with no game but their holding and hooking can fade into oblivion. Certainly this will be tough to stomach for teams that didn't really have much of a skating or finesse game, and other teams that had a hard time competing with no room to skate will find more success.
Don't get me entirely wrong however, there have been some brutal calls in getting this trend going down the right path. And, some players will/do milk the new initiative to draw more penalties. There has to be a balance. I'd like to see the calls for the cheap plays and riding players from behind get called, and the divers get called for unsportsmanlike conduct.
It's a steep learning curve now, still near the beginning of the season, and the ref have been instructed to make these calls to beat the notion into the players (and coaches heads) but it won't last forever. The calls will lighten up, players will learn the new game, and we'll be left watching hockey instead of WWF. Now that's something I change the channel on.
Go Oilers!