The NDP released their Kyoto plan yesterday. Lots of good stuff in there. Check it out.
http://douglas.ndp.ca/kyoto/en/index.php
http://douglas.ndp.ca/kyoto/en/index.php
NDP Kyoto Plan
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The NDP released their Kyoto plan yesterday. Lots of good stuff in there. Check it out.
http://douglas.ndp.ca/kyoto/en/index.php
http://douglas.ndp.ca/kyoto/en/index.php
The NDP released their Kyoto plan yesterday. Lots of good stuff in there. Check it out.
http://douglas.ndp.ca/kyoto/en/index.php
http://douglas.ndp.ca/kyoto/en/index.php
Sounds like a good plan. But if we start doing it, won't it be a waste if our southern neighbours do not? Any reduction is good. I think Kyoto never went far enough personally.
Sounds like a good plan. But if we start doing it, won't it be a waste if our southern neighbours do not? Any reduction is good. I think Kyoto never went far enough personally.
Sounds like a good plan. But if we start doing it, won't it be a waste if our southern neighbours do not? Any reduction is good. I think Kyoto never went far enough personally.
I think Kyoto is just a scam.
Our kids can't even go outside to play anymore without ingesting and breathing particulates to the very bottom of their lungs.
And ... as if any reduction by Western countries is gonna make any difference at all .... Just look at China's plans.
China Coal Requirements:
Coal makes up the bulk, 65%, of China's primary energy consumption, and China is both the largest consumer and producer of coal in the world. China's coal consumption in 2002 was 1.42 billion short tons, or 27% of the world total. The Chinese government has made major upward revisions to coal production and consumption figures covering the last several years. The new figures show coal consumption rising sharply in 2001-2002, reversing the decline seen from 1997 to 2000. The decline during that period also is much less than the previously reported data.
Here Is Another Story: (Partial Quotes"
Move over crude, it's coal's turn to shine
By Niall McGee
November 19, 2004
Worldwide consumption of coal has been rising faster than any other energy source. The trend is especially notable in China, the world's largest coal producer.
Mr. Roling said "coal is the least expensive form of energy other than hydro." According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, it costs $3 (U.S.) to generate a million British Thermal Units (BTUs) of power from coal, compared with $7 for natural gas and $8 for oil.
"Coal should not be viewed as a dirty fuel any more, he said. "Clean coal technology eliminates CO2 emissions and means coal is now cleaner to burn than natural gas."
Our kids can't even go outside to play anymore without ingesting and breathing particulates to the very bottom of their lungs.
And ... as if any reduction by Western countries is gonna make any difference at all .... Just look at China's plans.
China Coal Requirements:
Coal makes up the bulk, 65%, of China's primary energy consumption, and China is both the largest consumer and producer of coal in the world. China's coal consumption in 2002 was 1.42 billion short tons, or 27% of the world total. The Chinese government has made major upward revisions to coal production and consumption figures covering the last several years. The new figures show coal consumption rising sharply in 2001-2002, reversing the decline seen from 1997 to 2000. The decline during that period also is much less than the previously reported data.
Here Is Another Story: (Partial Quotes"
Move over crude, it's coal's turn to shine
By Niall McGee
November 19, 2004
Worldwide consumption of coal has been rising faster than any other energy source. The trend is especially notable in China, the world's largest coal producer.
Mr. Roling said "coal is the least expensive form of energy other than hydro." According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, it costs $3 (U.S.) to generate a million British Thermal Units (BTUs) of power from coal, compared with $7 for natural gas and $8 for oil.
"Coal should not be viewed as a dirty fuel any more, he said. "Clean coal technology eliminates CO2 emissions and means coal is now cleaner to burn than natural gas."
I think Kyoto is just a scam.
Our kids can't even go outside to play anymore without ingesting and breathing particulates to the very bottom of their lungs.
And ... as if any reduction by Western countries is gonna make any difference at all .... Just look at China's plans.
China Coal Requirements:
Coal makes up the bulk, 65%, of China's primary energy consumption, and China is both the largest consumer and producer of coal in the world. China's coal consumption in 2002 was 1.42 billion short tons, or 27% of the world total. The Chinese government has made major upward revisions to coal production and consumption figures covering the last several years. The new figures show coal consumption rising sharply in 2001-2002, reversing the decline seen from 1997 to 2000. The decline during that period also is much less than the previously reported data.
Here Is Another Story: (Partial Quotes"
Move over crude, it's coal's turn to shine
By Niall McGee
November 19, 2004
Worldwide consumption of coal has been rising faster than any other energy source. The trend is especially notable in China, the world's largest coal producer.
Mr. Roling said "coal is the least expensive form of energy other than hydro." According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, it costs $3 (U.S.) to generate a million British Thermal Units (BTUs) of power from coal, compared with $7 for natural gas and $8 for oil.
"Coal should not be viewed as a dirty fuel any more, he said. "Clean coal technology eliminates CO2 emissions and means coal is now cleaner to burn than natural gas."
Our kids can't even go outside to play anymore without ingesting and breathing particulates to the very bottom of their lungs.
And ... as if any reduction by Western countries is gonna make any difference at all .... Just look at China's plans.
China Coal Requirements:
Coal makes up the bulk, 65%, of China's primary energy consumption, and China is both the largest consumer and producer of coal in the world. China's coal consumption in 2002 was 1.42 billion short tons, or 27% of the world total. The Chinese government has made major upward revisions to coal production and consumption figures covering the last several years. The new figures show coal consumption rising sharply in 2001-2002, reversing the decline seen from 1997 to 2000. The decline during that period also is much less than the previously reported data.
Here Is Another Story: (Partial Quotes"
Move over crude, it's coal's turn to shine
By Niall McGee
November 19, 2004
Worldwide consumption of coal has been rising faster than any other energy source. The trend is especially notable in China, the world's largest coal producer.
Mr. Roling said "coal is the least expensive form of energy other than hydro." According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, it costs $3 (U.S.) to generate a million British Thermal Units (BTUs) of power from coal, compared with $7 for natural gas and $8 for oil.
"Coal should not be viewed as a dirty fuel any more, he said. "Clean coal technology eliminates CO2 emissions and means coal is now cleaner to burn than natural gas."
I think Kyoto is just a scam.
Our kids can't even go outside to play anymore without ingesting and breathing particulates to the very bottom of their lungs.
And ... as if any reduction by Western countries is gonna make any difference at all .... Just look at China's plans.
China Coal Requirements:
Coal makes up the bulk, 65%, of China's primary energy consumption, and China is both the largest consumer and producer of coal in the world. China's coal consumption in 2002 was 1.42 billion short tons, or 27% of the world total. The Chinese government has made major upward revisions to coal production and consumption figures covering the last several years. The new figures show coal consumption rising sharply in 2001-2002, reversing the decline seen from 1997 to 2000. The decline during that period also is much less than the previously reported data.
Here Is Another Story: (Partial Quotes"
Move over crude, it's coal's turn to shine
By Niall McGee
November 19, 2004
Worldwide consumption of coal has been rising faster than any other energy source. The trend is especially notable in China, the world's largest coal producer.
Mr. Roling said "coal is the least expensive form of energy other than hydro." According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, it costs $3 (U.S.) to generate a million British Thermal Units (BTUs) of power from coal, compared with $7 for natural gas and $8 for oil.
"Coal should not be viewed as a dirty fuel any more, he said. "Clean coal technology eliminates CO2 emissions and means coal is now cleaner to burn than natural gas."
Our kids can't even go outside to play anymore without ingesting and breathing particulates to the very bottom of their lungs.
And ... as if any reduction by Western countries is gonna make any difference at all .... Just look at China's plans.
China Coal Requirements:
Coal makes up the bulk, 65%, of China's primary energy consumption, and China is both the largest consumer and producer of coal in the world. China's coal consumption in 2002 was 1.42 billion short tons, or 27% of the world total. The Chinese government has made major upward revisions to coal production and consumption figures covering the last several years. The new figures show coal consumption rising sharply in 2001-2002, reversing the decline seen from 1997 to 2000. The decline during that period also is much less than the previously reported data.
Here Is Another Story: (Partial Quotes"
Move over crude, it's coal's turn to shine
By Niall McGee
November 19, 2004
Worldwide consumption of coal has been rising faster than any other energy source. The trend is especially notable in China, the world's largest coal producer.
Mr. Roling said "coal is the least expensive form of energy other than hydro." According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, it costs $3 (U.S.) to generate a million British Thermal Units (BTUs) of power from coal, compared with $7 for natural gas and $8 for oil.
"Coal should not be viewed as a dirty fuel any more, he said. "Clean coal technology eliminates CO2 emissions and means coal is now cleaner to burn than natural gas."
I guess because there is too much money to be made in natural resources(oil, natural gas) nothing will be done until it is too late to do anything.
I believe it is the big oil companies that are part of or the major reason we still use fossil fuels and combustible engines, motors etc. They would be out of work and the cash would stop flowing.
It is really sick that money comes before the planet. We will just extinct ourselves.
I believe it is the big oil companies that are part of or the major reason we still use fossil fuels and combustible engines, motors etc. They would be out of work and the cash would stop flowing.
It is really sick that money comes before the planet. We will just extinct ourselves.
I guess because there is too much money to be made in natural resources(oil, natural gas) nothing will be done until it is too late to do anything.
I believe it is the big oil companies that are part of or the major reason we still use fossil fuels and combustible engines, motors etc. They would be out of work and the cash would stop flowing.
It is really sick that money comes before the planet. We will just extinct ourselves.
I believe it is the big oil companies that are part of or the major reason we still use fossil fuels and combustible engines, motors etc. They would be out of work and the cash would stop flowing.
It is really sick that money comes before the planet. We will just extinct ourselves.
I guess because there is too much money to be made in natural resources(oil, natural gas) nothing will be done until it is too late to do anything.
I believe it is the big oil companies that are part of or the major reason we still use fossil fuels and combustible engines, motors etc. They would be out of work and the cash would stop flowing.
It is really sick that money comes before the planet. We will just extinct ourselves.
I believe it is the big oil companies that are part of or the major reason we still use fossil fuels and combustible engines, motors etc. They would be out of work and the cash would stop flowing.
It is really sick that money comes before the planet. We will just extinct ourselves.
Re: RE: NDP Kyoto Plan
...but then the rich can afford to build bio-domes... :evil:
no1important said:
...but then the rich can afford to build bio-domes... :evil:
Re: RE: NDP Kyoto Plan
...but then the rich can afford to build bio-domes... :evil:
no1important said:
...but then the rich can afford to build bio-domes... :evil:
Re: RE: NDP Kyoto Plan
...but then the rich can afford to build bio-domes... :evil:
no1important said:
...but then the rich can afford to build bio-domes... :evil:
Kyoto was, unfortunately, the best deal that we could get at the time. It really doesn't matter if the US signs on or not...if they choose to be a technological backwaterm then so be it. If the rest of the world moves forward the US will have little choice but to join us though. To do otherwise is pretty much like outlawing cars in 1920 would have been.
The NDP plan includes a section on providing technology to developing nations.
The historical evidence regarding new technologies shows that nobody will be put out of work except those that refuse to adapt.
Kyoto was, unfortunately, the best deal that we could get at the time. It really doesn't matter if the US signs on or not...if they choose to be a technological backwaterm then so be it. If the rest of the world moves forward the US will have little choice but to join us though. To do otherwise is pretty much like outlawing cars in 1920 would have been.
The NDP plan includes a section on providing technology to developing nations.
The historical evidence regarding new technologies shows that nobody will be put out of work except those that refuse to adapt.
Kyoto was, unfortunately, the best deal that we could get at the time. It really doesn't matter if the US signs on or not...if they choose to be a technological backwaterm then so be it. If the rest of the world moves forward the US will have little choice but to join us though. To do otherwise is pretty much like outlawing cars in 1920 would have been.
The NDP plan includes a section on providing technology to developing nations.
The historical evidence regarding new technologies shows that nobody will be put out of work except those that refuse to adapt.
Reverend Blair said:
I'm a big fan of that Jack guy ... new energy sources and technologies that are related to them can make a industry pioneer a lot of money. We should not only go to substainable energies but design technology for mass distribution and marketing as well. Of course providing new technologies to developing countries would be an important practice as well.
Reverend Blair said:
I'm a big fan of that Jack guy ... new energy sources and technologies that are related to them can make a industry pioneer a lot of money. We should not only go to substainable energies but design technology for mass distribution and marketing as well. Of course providing new technologies to developing countries would be an important practice as well.