NDP Have BIG plans in BC again!!!

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LadyC

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mrmom said:
The only thing that gets decided in these elections is Who's friends get to steal our tax dollars and rape the provinces resources and enviroment .There really is no choice just different rhetoric
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That's exactly what I said a few posts up.

$16/hour is a livable wage. Working a 40 hour week, with 2 weeks holiday gives you $32,000/year. If you're married then chances are your spouse also has an income.

But here's a thought... if that's what you're making and you're not happy about it, do something. Be responsible. Take some classes, get some training, work on getting some tickets.

Wage rollbacks in the hospitals made total sense. Explain to me why a cashier in the hospital cafeteria is worth more than the gal in the coffee shop next door.

No-one OWES you a living wage.
 
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galianomama

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I suggest you stick to welding (not economics) - BC has the highest percentage of people earning more than $16.00/hour in Canada.
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ummm, insig i hate to burst your bubble but i replied to that quote on a previous post to you, from last week. i think that quote came from minister of finance graham bruce, but the other info that was missing is the fact that our average earning wage in bc use to be over $17 per hour, since the liberals have come to power it now is approximately $16.00. alberta has a higher hourly rate than our province.
 
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No-one OWES you a living wage.
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I never said they did Lady CIA :p Nobody owes me anything but that doesn't mean i have to like the lies spewing out of all th politicians mouths :x As far as I'm concerned the whole lot of them should be thrown in the parliment building and the place should be torched :lol: I'm kind of an anarchists :lol: My wages would be fine if I didn't have to give these people my hard earned money. :wink:
 
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RE: NDP Have BIG plans in

I see that bill 29 that cut hospital workers wages in half, the Supreme court of Canada has decided to hear the appeal, even though two lower courts ruled on the side of the government.
 
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$16/hour is a livable wage. Working a 40 hour week, with 2 weeks holiday gives you $32,000/year. If you're married then chances are your spouse also has an income.
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lady c that is before taxes. so after taxes your take home pay is approximately $22000.00 per year. what happens if you are a single parent and don't have a spouse with income? somehow it doesn't seem quite so livable.


But here's a thought... if that's what you're making and you're not happy about it, do something. Be responsible. Take some classes, get some training, work on getting some tickets.
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that's a great thought, but the apprenticeship board has been dismantled, and the training is pretty expensive. the cutbacks and policy changes to education have kinda made it hard to go back to school as a student. tuition fees have been basically doubled, and if you are a woman, you are really going to feel the pinch so to speak!

Wage rollbacks in the hospitals made total sense. Explain to me why a cashier in the hospital cafeteria is worth more than the gal in the coffee shop next door.
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well, the cashier in the hospital cafeteria (by the way the majority of the hospital cut backs effected women)' who use to make a living to support herself and maybe a couple of kids, now either hasn't got a job or makes approximately $8.50 an hour.
 
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ummm, insig i hate to burst your bubble but i replied to that quote on a previous post to you, from last week. i think that quote came from minister of finance graham bruce, but the other info that was missing is the fact that our average earning wage in bc use to be over $17 per hour, since the liberals have come to power it now is approximately $16.00. alberta has a higher hourly rate than our province.
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Galliano - ask no1 what THE AVERAGE WAGE is in BC he posted it on P.19 - it is 19.23 (according to Stats Can).

Facts - get them right!
 
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galianomama

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thanks insig, so having this number, i wonder how it compares to say, 2001?

on the liberal web site it states that "The proportion of B.C.'s workforce making 16 dollars an hour or more is higher than any other province in Canada at 57.2 per cent."

how does that fit in?
 
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16/hour is some magic number that stats canada uses across the country - as for 2001 numbers - I'm not sure, it appears that you have to pay stats can $3.00 to access the info - so maybe someone else here knows where that info is....
 
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galianomama said:
lady c that is before taxes. so after taxes your take home pay is approximately $22000.00 per year. what happens if you are a single parent and don't have a spouse with income? somehow it doesn't seem quite so livable.
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I AM a single parent. I drive a car that's over a decade old and skip the extravagant holidays. I spend my money on the important things.... my kids. I also get child support.

It's livable. I'd like more, sure, but it's still livable.

that's a great thought, but the apprenticeship board has been dismantled, and the training is pretty expensive. the cutbacks and policy changes to education have kinda made it hard to go back to school as a student. tuition fees have been basically doubled, and if you are a woman, you are really going to feel the pinch so to speak!
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Tuition fees doubled because the NDP government froze the rates for years, which was rather short-sighted of them, but a good election ploy.

There are student loans available for those who need them. If you choose not to get the training, don't complain about lower wages. As I've said, the government doesn't owe anyone a living wage... we need to take responsibility for ourselves.

well, the cashier in the hospital cafeteria (by the way the majority of the hospital cut backs effected women)' who use to make a living to support herself and maybe a couple of kids, now either hasn't got a job or makes approximately $8.50 an hour.
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That's all the job is worth. Sorry, but that's true. Being a cashier isn't a highly skilled job.

The rationale behind paying men more than women used to be that he had a family to support. Having kids doesn't mean your employer should pay you more.
 
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RE: NDP Have BIG plans in

Economy is important... but treating one another with compassion is more important. Under the liberals, I forsee no help for the disabled, for the elderly, for folks in hard times who are giving all their effort but still in poverty...
Some things are priceless in a compassionate society... and if all you focus on is the pricetags of each challenge and need, than you are going to forget your compassion.
 
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UN labour agency condemns violations by British Columbia

Campbell Liberals have the worst record in North America; labour practices condemned nine times in two years by International Labour Organization

Here

Well we have a human rights violater, a convicted criminal (D.U.I) and a liar ("I won't sell off BC Rail") for premier. And people still love tis guy. :roll:
 
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LadyC

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OakServe said:
Economy is important... but treating one another with compassion is more important. Under the liberals, I forsee no help for the disabled, for the elderly, for folks in hard times who are giving all their effort but still in poverty...
Some things are priceless in a compassionate society... and if all you focus on is the pricetags of each challenge and need, than you are going to forget your compassion.
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Treating people with compassion is great... but even compassion costs money.

You need a strong economy to pay for social programs.
 
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