Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan

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Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan

By Claudia Joseph
14th October 2006


The Olympics will be held over the Muslim holy month of Ramadan






The 2012 London Olympics have been plunged into controversy by the discovery that the Games will clash with Ramadan, the most holy month in the Islamic calendar.

The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games.

In 2012, Ramadan will take place from July 21 to August 20, while the Olympics run from July 27 to August 12.
An anticipated 3,000 Muslim competitors are expected to be affected.

About a quarter of the 11,099 athletes who took part in the 2004 Athens Olympics came from countries with predominantly Muslim populations.

Because the Muslim calendar is based on a lunar cycle, the ninth month of Ramadan - which runs from the appearance of one new crescent moon to the next - gets earlier by around 11 days each year.

The clash will be a huge embarrassment for Lord Coe, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell, and London Mayor Ken Livingstone, who have been keen to ensure the Games involve all Britain's ethnic communities.

Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, said: "They would not have organised this at Christmas. It is equally stupid to organise it at Ramadan.

"It shows a complete lack of awareness and sensitivity.

"This is going to disadvantage the athletes and alienate the Asian communities by saying they don't matter.

"It's not only going to affect the participants it's going to affect all the people who want to watch the Games.

"They won't want to travel during Ramadan and they won't want to watch sport. It's a spiritual time."

Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam on the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "I'm sure the athletes will seek advice from their scholars.

"They are obviously going to be at a disadvantage because other competitors will be drinking and keeping up their energy levels.

"But they are athletes and I am sure they will train their bodies to cope with this.

"A Muslim might feel it would have been nice to avoid this month but life doesn't stop for Muslims during Ramadan even though they are fasting.

"The best thing for a Muslim is to continue his or her life as normal. This is the real test."

The British Olympic Association is now planning a meeting with the organisers of London 2012 to discuss how the timing will affect UK Muslim athletes.

And Muslim countries such as Turkey are calling for the date to be changed.

Togay Bayalti, president of the National Olympic Committee of Turkey, said: "This will be difficult for Muslim athletes.

"They don't have to observe Ramadan if they are doing sport and travelling but they will have to decide whether it is important to them.

"It would be nice for the friendship of the Games if they had chosen a different date."

The International Olympics Committee insisted the Games take place some time between July 15 to August 31, giving more than a week either side of Ramadan.

IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said: "We give a window to the five bid cities. The host city selects the dates within that window.

"The Games bring together virtually every religion and creed. How to deal with religious clashes is up to the athletes."

Joanna Manning Cooper, spokeswoman for London 2012, said: "We did know about it when we submitted our bid and we have always believed we could find ways to accommodate it.

"We had lots of things to consider when we submitted our dates, including the fact that transport will be less crowded in the summer holiday.

"We also need 70,000 volunteers and this is the best time to find them.

"We are working with the Muslim Council of Great Britain to find ways to accommodate Ramadan during the London Games."

Readers' comments



I am Muslim, and I think this is stupid.

An athlete won't be forced to fast if they are in the Olympics. They will be fine. They can do whatever and it will be forgiven because of this obligation.

- Sarah, Washington DC, USA

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Well it could clash with Christmans, Hannukah or any other religious festival.

I am sure that any devout Muslim would have more important things to worry about than participating in a sporting event.

- Jo Kavanagh, Stansted, Essex
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The games are being held in a non Muslim country and the dates have been fixed to ovecome anticipated logistical problems. The Muslim athletes will be in the minority.

I know that exceptions exist in Islam where Muslims need not fast if circumstances dictate otherwise. Such exceptions include travelling, medical treatment and others. They can make up for non fasting days by fasting on the same number of days that were missed at a later date. This is perfectly acceptable in Islam.

The world does not need to stop just because it is Ramadan !

- David, Chelmsford, UK

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Dalreg

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This has never happened before? I don't know much about the timing of this month but one would assume it has happened before with no fuss?
 

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This has never happened before? I don't know much about the timing of this month but one would assume it has happened before with no fuss?


I'm not sure if it has either, but if it has, the fuss is likely the result of the Muslim community having learned that if they make enough noise, the world will capitulate.
 

Sassylassie

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Yep he who screams the loudest wins the PC Medal of the day. Perhaps we should just cancel the event.
 

ottawabill

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no matter what day or month you hold any event will likely clash with someone, some holiday, some religous festive etc...

Let's just imagine moving to Iran and demanding that events not be held on a Christian holiday!!!

If I move to India I expect not to eat Beef...

If I move to Saudia Arabia I expect that my hands will be cut off if I steal

Why can't I expect that someone coming to my culture would feel the same?
 

earth_as_one

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The time of year when Ramadan occurs changes each year because it is based on a lunar calendar.

It is compulsory for all Muslims over the age of 12 to fast during Ramadan. Fasting is the duty for every adult Muslim, but there are some exceptions. Elderly, sick, pregnant women, nursing mothers, travelers do not have to fast but they must fast at a convenient time later on.

Olympic athletes could be exempt because they are travelling. Also Muslim religious authorities can issue a blanket exemption from fasting during Ramadan for Olympic athletes.
 

tamarin

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Well, it's time Muslims world-wide were repatriated to their original countries. And going with them will be those mindless gobs that suggested multiculturalism was a viable western option. It's not working. It's unthinkable to allow those who have betrayed western sensibilities so seriously as the PC crowd or the multicults to stay in our communities. They have to go. Let's start booking them flights today.
 

tracy

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They are not demanding that we conform to their ways!!! Blacks only ever wanted equal rights..not different rights.

Really? Those who rail against reparations and affirmative action would disagree with you. I'm sure they feel just as justified in generalizing about an entire group of people.
 

Sassylassie

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Torro I didn't know this and I'm outraged I tell you outraged. Excuse me I have to go burn something, like lunch.
 

ottawabill

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tracy, your having a fight with the wrong guy....My wife is a minority and have have no problem with any race. It not a race issue it's a cultural class issue..there is a difference.
 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ottawabill
They are not demanding that we conform to their ways!!! Blacks only ever wanted equal rights..not different rights.


Really? Those who rail against reparations and affirmative action would disagree with you. I'm sure they feel just as justified in generalizing about an entire group of people.

You are indeed suggesting racism, Tracy.

And Ottawa bill, l totlaly agree with you, no other ethnic minority group has ever demanded that such a huge non-religious event be changed to accomodate. It is just a political stance for the minority religion to be recognized as being more than a minority. As Earth is a Mulsim and has pointed out that it doesn't interfer with the holiday at all. It is just discrimination against everyone else's rights, and an intolerance towards fitting in with a world that opposes rioting, complaining and demands.
 

tracy

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We must have all missed this part. It doesn't sound like all the muslims are demanding we change to accomodate them.

Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam on the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "I'm sure the athletes will seek advice from their scholars.

"They are obviously going to be at a disadvantage because other competitors will be drinking and keeping up their energy levels.

"But they are athletes and I am sure they will train their bodies to cope with this.

"A Muslim might feel it would have been nice to avoid this month but life doesn't stop for Muslims during Ramadan even though they are fasting.

"The best thing for a Muslim is to continue his or her life as normal. This is the real test."
 

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To the Muslims - if your God gets upset with you for not fasting during Ramadan then maybe its time to worship a new God who is compassionate enough to let you make your own decisions.