MPs to consider debate on when human life begins

karrie

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It would be a moot point anyway avro.

If it is decided that there is some stage at which a fetus has legal rights, then those rights will apply. You can't decide one doesn't deserve rights because of who their father/what their circumstance is. Anything that got past the cocktail of morning after pills the docs give rape victims, would have the same rights as any other fetus.
 

Liberalman

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Which is why I said....

Sure as long as it is not against her will.

Seems you think it's her fault for being raped....perhaps she should have fought a little harder against her attacker.

I am not talking about raped women just the women that use abortion as a form of birth control
 

karrie

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I am not talking about raped women just the women that use abortion as a form of birth control

Any discussion about tying the hands of women to make their medical decisions themselves, in a timely manner, pertains to all women. The bureaucratic mess that results will NOT apply only to the women you don't like, you have to be aware and not kid yourself of that fact.
 

karrie

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Not really, you would think that a raped woman would make that decision very quickly.

I don't like abortion, but I wouldn't force pregnacy on anyone.

If they choose to have the child then good for them but if they don't I can empathise with that as well.

Sorry, we seem to be getting our wires crossed. You brought rape into the discussion regarding fetal rights, implying that pregnancies resulting from rape, should fetuses/babies be granted rights at some point, would warrant a different set or rights from others. I'm simply pointing out that that is not the way it would work.
 

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Not really, you would think that a raped woman would make that decision very quickly.

I don't like abortion, but I wouldn't force pregnacy on anyone.

If they choose to have the child then good for them but if they don't I can empathise with that as well.



I was, or can't you read?

Perhaps you should think before you open your big fat mouth.:roll:

Perhaps you should think before you open your big fat mouth

You know you are breaking Canadian Content forum rules I just thought I would remind you of that.

Once the Conservative government votes that life begins in the womb then Abortion will be illegal for anyone that is performing it which is great
 

Kreskin

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Yeah, it's ridiculous that Canada has laws preventing the underpriviliged from being harvested for the upper levels of society. Bring back paid medical testing and start up calving programs.

The fact that women don't want to put their bodies and minds through the physical and emotional traumas of surrogacy without being paid to do so, is exactly why they shouldn't be paid to do so. That is not a life choice that should be coerced out of a woman due to difficult life circumstance, no matter how much it can help a family looking to have a child.
But the privileged can degrade and stick their dicks into the underprivileged for nothing better than fun and jollies. Like that's more ethical than having a medical doctor transfer an embryo into a uteris to help someone create a family.
 

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I am not talking about raped women just the women that use abortion as a form of birth control


That being the case, you should have said that. But you didn't.

Are you, or are you not, in favour of a man being able to forge the signature of his girlfriend's husband, so that she can get an abortion?
 

gerryh

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Once again avro is shooting off his mouth about crap he doesn't understand. Blue liberal vs red liberal is the difference in big C and small c Conservatives.
 

karrie

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But the privileged can degrade and stick their dicks into the underprivileged for nothing better than fun and jollies. Like that's more ethical than having a medical doctor transfer an embryo into a uteris to help someone create a family.

I can't really argue with you there. I don't support prostitution. I support legalizing it so that the women can get help when they need it, because it happens anyway, and they have zero protection.

I know you spend your time getting to know the fertility issue inside and out, and getting to know very deeply the suffering of the families on your forum, but from an objective standpoint, paying people for medical procedures is a dangerous business.
 

gerryh

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Right, so a dude who has PET as an avatar spewing out crap about abortion and how much he dosen't like it is suppose to convince me he is a blue liberal?

He would fit in quite well on the other side of the aisle.


Like I said, not a clue.

I'm anti abortion (pro life), unless a womans life is in danger there is no reason for an abortion. So what does that make me politically?
 

gerryh

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Not sure, do you have a picture of PET on your avatar?


why aren't you sure? You're making a decision about someones political leanings based on a pic and a position on one subject. You should be able to do the same thing with me. Right?
 

gerryh

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as usual, avro is lost and can't make the connections. Poor boy, having to live his life with such a shallow outlook.
 

MHz

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Canada is hardly close to being over-populated. Let me use a population density like China or India today in certain areas. Small familes are mandated and one or two children per couple is 'strongly encouraged'. Barring sex would be impossible and sterilization would more or less be forced on by the state. Unfortunately that is not reversible so should they lose that child they end up with no family. One solution to that would be to have a 'clone' made by using the egg of the closest living relative of the wife and the 'host' could be the woman herself that donated the egg or any woman willing to carry the fetus to term and releasing all claims as she has no DNA contribution. We had forced sterilization until mid last century, as did all of Europe.
Barring a living relative shouldn't the egg be donated by somebody with as many tissue matches as possible.

Here's a pot induced question, **** forgot it. lol

Here is a crack induced question, are we being monitored?

Since I question your sincerity about the 'joke' not being a subliminal jab at the intellect of someone you consider to be inferior to you. I have to battle that 'filter' in my replies to you just because of one conversation we had sever years ago about a 'momma grizzly' and the promotion of vigilante justice being perfectly justified once it had you personally involved. Perhaps I'm not as good as filtering all of that out as I think but the comment still related to pot bring om unsound reasoning and I'm left wondering what qualifies you as a judge (in a conversational way that lets me ask for papers (not rolling) that show you're my new mom. Perhaps that will help avoid a repeat of what just happened, if not I'll just pass on saying what classifies as spontaneous conversation.

Back to the regular programing.