More b.s. from French-Canada......

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More b.s. from French

Do you mean too centrist as in powers for Ottawa, or too centrist politically, as in too business oriented?

 

[chrisfer]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French

The fe4ar mongering did its work. And they wernt happy that we "reclaimed" what is ours. Montreal was english, before. It was hard to get services in french. It was hard to get a job if you we're french. It was hard to just live if you we're french. My aunt grew up there, she told me about it. Not to discount all the other countless tales. Does anglophones left because of our laws. Giving the rights back to the majority. They are the anglophones that could not speak french, yet have lived here their hole life.

When I talk to an anglophone that cannot speak french (Or has a hard time speaking it) in Québec, or anywhere else, I switch to english. Out of respect. I've never seen that respect returned, in a reversed situation.



Might I add, our french is more french then the french in france.

Le "drugstore". Le "Parking". Mon "Shopping"..... So many other examples of english words almost completly integrated within the French (France) language.

Gotta say "wrong". I grew up in montreal in the 60's to 80's and saw the progression, if you lived in the west end of the island it was english, the east end was french and either language could get jobs or services very easily. Then the PQ entered and guess what they drove away big business. First the big banks HQ's left, then the insurance co's hq's, then manufacturing, no new big companies came in because they didn't know what they were getting into or the cost. The result a lot of the anglophones left with thier jobs in 3 distinct periods. The francophones who lost thier jobs and could not move because they did not know english added to the unemployment and made it hard for francophones to find jobs.
Growing up I built up a poor view of quebecers due to thier refusal to speak english to me even when I knew they could. And every once in a while you would get the one with the "ici en quebec nous parlons francais" here in quebec we speak french.
As well tell me where anyplace in the world you are not allowed to put another language on the sign for your store?. Pathetic.
Don't talk about rights.
I got out as soon as I could, I still go back to see family and the difference between Montreal and Toronto is like black and white.
Toronto you can't take a step without tripping over growth and construction. In Montreal I can count the new projects I see on one hand. Quebec had a chance to be Canada's international gateway to the world and they blew it.

 

[missile]

I thought the law there stated that you could use signs in both languages, but the Frenchsign had to be first and larger,of course?I know the Language Police were coming down hard on those Anglos who refused to put up the french signs.It's a pity to waste all that money on a dying language!

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

I thought the law there stated that you could use signs in both languages, but the Frenchsign had to be first and larger,of course?I know the Language Police were coming down hard on those Anglos who refused to put up the french signs.It's a pity to waste all that money on a dying language!

Dit Missile, (SAY MISSILE)

C'est pas mort, le lengue francias!

The French Language is not dead!

Vous n'aimez non l'Acadiens dans Nouveau Brunswick ? Oui o Non?

You don't like the Acadiens in New Brunswick, YES or NO?

Vous souhaitez qu'ils aient envoyé tous les Français en Louisiane quand l'Anglos a eu la chance !

You wish they had sent all the French to Louisiana when the Anglos had the chance!

I guess your proud of the Grand Derangement, you just wish you could have burned a barn, herded a father on one boat, a mother on another and put the Daughter and son on yet another! Maybe you could even have shot a few! The Acadien Culture and the Quebecois (inclye Quebecoise aussie) will be here in the Future and we Acadiens will return! (wrote in English for those franco-challenged folks who still can't even read the cereal boxes!)

Vie Acadie-nous parlons fieres le francais!
Long Live Acadia, we are proud to speak French!

 

[missile]

Thanks for the attack.I really enjoyed it. By the way, my last name is LEBLANC and I am of Acadian heritage & would have preferred my ancestors went on the boats to the US South, Sure beats our winters here in NB.!

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French

Do you mean too centrist as in powers for Ottawa, or too centrist politically, as in too business oriented?

Centrist on the federal scale. They want to concentrate all powers in Ottawa. and interfere in Provincial affairs. Its the reason I hate the libs, and the reason I dislike the NDP.

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

I thought the law there stated that you could use signs in both languages, but the Frenchsign had to be first and larger,of course?I know the Language Police were coming down hard on those Anglos who refused to put up the french signs.It's a pity to waste all that money on a dying language!

French isnt a dying language. Its the most influencal world language after english. They are quite close actually. So please, refrain yourself from ignorance.

 

[Machjo]

Numure, be careful what you say, 'cause 普通话在来！

 

[missile]

A healthy,vibrant language doesn't need full legal protections to keep it alive. French in Canada does! I revel in my ignorance,my friend!

 

[missile]

Bilingualism in Canada is our version of the American system that allows blacks to get into colleges with lesser abilities than other races.Affirmative Action was the term I was intending.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Centrist on the federal scale. They want to concentrate all powers in Ottawa. and interfere in Provincial affairs. Its the reason I hate the libs, and the reason I dislike the NDP.

But it is traditionally the centrist governments that protect provinces like Quebec (and seven or eight others, depending on the year) from the excesses of Alberta and Ontario. Quebec, as a province where most federal powers were devolved to the provinces or as a separate country, would no longer have those protections.

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

Thanks for the attack.I really enjoyed it. By the way, my last name is LEBLANC and I am of Acadian heritage & would have preferred my ancestors went on the boats to the US South, Sure beats our winters here in NB.!

L'sient mon ami.

I'm sorry about that but my attack mode goes on when the anyone attacks the Francophone side! Daughters wouldn't allow a slight to their linguist heritage to go unchallenged. We are keeping the language alive in Louisiana.

ARRET PAS LE MUSIQUE!

ICI FIERONS DE PARLER FRANCAIS.

As a LeBlanc, I am related to the LeBlancs so we are cousines,no? Sadly one of my LeBlanc cousines died last night of Breast Cancer here in Louisiana and and My Mother and her family are getting ready for the Funeral Tommorrow. Evelyn was 58 and leaves behind 2 grown kid, grandkids and her husband.

I have heard that comment about the boat more than once, our ancestors here in Louisiana did not fare as well as some and some did better than others. Grass always looks greener on the other side of the pasture, I wish our rights as French Neutrals was honored where we could cross the Border and live as we choose sort of like the Mowhawks. The Grand Derangement took away our pride and when cast out of Nova Scotia, here in Louisiana, most continued on with thier lives but when asked about why they (our forefathers) left, we answer we are in exile! Time to end the exile and a declaration to end the expulsion order and allow the descendants to return.

Dudley Leblanc started the Acadian Renaissance here in Louisiana and a LeBlanc Lawyer is suing Canada in the World Court to get the Derangement labeled as "Ethnic Cleansing" as to force the recognition of Acadian Rights. In my Geneology work I have identified several lines of our Acadian Family lines which ended up not in Louisiana or back in Canada but on Islands in the Caribbean and I believe these persons deserve an easier chance to immigrate to a country with more opportunities and to be reunited with the mainstream of Acadie!

As far as the winters here, it is 11C on 12/3 with high humidity. We don't see any snow, my grand mother Juliet Pitre, told me that her Grandmother told her that her grandmother was born in "Le terre de le long niege" , that would have been Eugenie Maillet, born 1744 in Cobequid, Acadie (near Truro, Nova Scotia)!

i am a descendant of Beausoliel Broussard, the rebel who surrendered in Halifax, NS in 1764 after learning of the French Surrender and was not offered terms but put on a boat and sent to Sante Domingo, Hipanola (NOW DOMINICAN REPUBLIC) and he jumped ship and fled to Louisiana where he died 2 years later leaving behind his widow and their children (Malaria).

As far as catching the boat, I plan on taking the ferry to NS every spring and return to Louisiana in the fall! I will be come a Summer/Winter Acadian Snowbird, we have 2 homes and you are welcome in Louisiana anytime. With a name like LeBlanc, you'll blend in and no one will notice!

Nous Va a la fais-do-do! Souviens la Jolie Blond!
Lache pas la patate mon ami!

 

[gerryh]

This is just one more example of how the english have mistreated the French founders of Kanada, and continue to renege on promises made.

 

[missile]

I was raised by my grandparents ,Scottish/Irish, and was never proud of my name. When you're rejected by your parents,it tends to warp your belief system!I'm surprised that i never went through the legal process and had my last name changed to theirs[King] My real father,Charles LeBlanc died two years ago at the age of 83 and even then,didn't want me around.I tried my whole life to get his approval and acceptance-a total waste of time and effort...Both my grandmothers were of Irish descent,so I could claim to be Irish--but I've lived all my life as a LeBlanc and I'll die as one.

 

[quebecornazi]

It was from CBC. Also, in the US, the language is obviously English, but others who don't read/speak the language so well, are for the most part accomodated.
It IS insane to police the French language like they are...
What do they do, fine or jail someone for not speaking their language all the friggin time?


yeah, that is the definition of insanity.




This is true, Some time ago there was a Handyman with a Van (work van), and on the outside he wrote , in English, all the services he provided like "ELECTRICAL", "HEATING", "PLUMBING" etc.

The Quebec Language Police seized his van and fined him $5000.

These people are ridiculous.
TRY-HARD COMMUNISTS, TRY-HARD NAZIS.

EXECUTE 'EM AND EXECUTE EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.

 

[FiveParadox]

Now really, quebecornazi, arguing for their execution is a bit much, don't you think?

I would hardly compare the French language enforcement organizations, even if they are acting as "radical" as is alleged, to Nazis.

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

you want to elaborate? How are these people "insane"?

"The English language has become very much – throughout the world – the language of business," Charest said.

If it's the language of business, wouldn't it make sense to learn it? Remember all those courses people took before doing business in the East to avoid insulting their hosts? Seems the same to me. If you want to do business with someone, you need to learn their ways, not force them to adapt to yours.

Exactly!

So this means taht not all of Quebec's students ought to learn English. Some ought to learn other languages as well, so that Quebec can do business with the rest of the world in their languages as opposed to English. If a Chinese goes to Quebec and wants to use Chinese, fair enough. French, fair enough. But why should a Chinese impose English on a French Canadian. Just doesn't make sence.

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

but frech does have its usefulness i understand alot more languages like spanish italian cuz iknow french its also useful in a forin country that deosnt know french so that u dont get pesterd

That's true. On my own time, people are always pesterin gme to practice their Enlgish. At work, I know English. On my own time, Me no know English! (And I can't even say that!). You can either accept my broken Chinese, my French or my Esperanto. But just leave me alone with English!

I'd often been invited for dinner, just to sit at the table and be bombarded with English grammar questions from some 10 year old snot at the encouragement of the parents. Needless to say, I avoid those "friends" as much as possible, and when I can't, I speak in broken Chinese or Chinglish. But I won't give encourage them by speaking English outside of work if I value my free time.

One day, in the morning, I'd had a university student stop me in the street asking for free Enlgish lessons. I told him in Chinese that I could teach him French, and he walked away. At luch time, same day, in a restaurant, I'm busy eating my meal, and a father and his son come sitting down next to me, and the father tells his son in Chinese (I guess he supposed little old whitey here couldn't understand) to practice his English with me. Again, I answer in Chinese that I'm a French Canadian, and so we can speak in Chinese all he wants. The father looked disappointed, but the kid was happy! Same day! Afternoon, shopping for clothes. Another man comes along and wants to offer me a job in the English language, saying his school needed Enlgish teachers! By then, I'd just about had it!

And my French and Esperanto-speaking Chinese friends are usually a lot more interested in discussing culture or other issues rather than English tests (usually teh only topic for English speakers outside of work, other than "how can I improve my English"?

"Not with me, that's for sure; unlike the Anglos, I want to learn Chinese".

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

Charest is one slow politician. English has been the international language of business for many years, where has he been?

Bad news! I use English for international business, and guess what? It's bloody frustrating. Usually, the wording of contracts is filled with grammar mystakes. Those are the best ones, 'cause then you know that you'd better get someone on hand to make sure you all understand the contract.

The worst ones are the contracts which appear to be correct. Once it's signed, however, it turns out that they didn't understand the meaning of some of what they had written, the correctness of all the grammar thus just having been pure luck, and so we then have to get in to a whole fight over it afterwards, thus spoiling relationships at times. It's happenned to me few times, fortunately, but I know others who've really had to pull some out over problem after problem! Welcome to the wonderful world of English!

 

[missile]

Yes, it sounds like a lot of the people you meet are ignorant snots & you're better off trying to just ignore their slights and insults.