More b.s. from French-Canada......

[no1important]

what about the welfare bums Bombardier and the ship building. Gee always to to Quebec. Quebec should should start giving to Canada instead of always Taking, Taking and Taking!

If Quebec wants to be in Canada why are they the only province that refers to their provincial parliement as the "National Assembly" does not sound very Canadian to me.

 

[gerryh]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

what about the welfare bums Bombardier and the ship building. Gee always to to Quebec. Quebec should should start giving to Canada instead of always Taking, Taking and Taking!

If Quebec wants to be in Canada why are they the only province that refers to their provincial parliement as the "National Assembly" does not sound very Canadian to me.

Read your history... because it is painfully obvious you have NO idea what you are talking about!

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

I just love this...... The British(english) made promises to not only the French of Lower Canada(Quebec) but also the First Nations. When either of these people want to enforce and maintain these promises and agreements, the ROC start whining and we get the usual comeback of "they get more than their fair share".


I supplied a link earlier that told the basics of how this country came together. Lower Canada did NOT need to join confederation. They could have split off then or joined the yanks. Instead they negotiated a deal to join Upper Canada and become the Dominion of Canada.

Read your damn history and quit whining so damn much yourselves.

Yeah, right, what about dem Acadiens, damn lucky they were not shot in the back while being forced onto the boats! Their treaty was violated, the cattle stolen, houses burned, women raped, you know, the usual and customary stuff of genocide and racial cleansing!

What about our treaties, do we ever get a hearing?

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

what about the welfare bums Bombardier and the ship building. Gee always to to Quebec. Quebec should should start giving to Canada instead of always Taking, Taking and Taking!

If Quebec wants to be in Canada why are they the only province that refers to their provincial parliement as the "National Assembly" does not sound very Canadian to me.

Because we are a Nation. The Québécois Nation. We arnt a country, and might never be. But still a Nation. Distinct from Canadians. The day you accept this as reality, is the day the treat of seperation will loose alot of wind.

As for our language, we don't all speak with the local dialect. The majority of Québécois can esily switch to a standard or Internationnal french at any time. Understood by all. Except Parisien french. They are quite weird. They don't even speak the same french as the rest of France. You bad mouth our local dialect, yet it is so close to Belch french. Its quite similar.

Now, as much as you might hate it. The seperatist movement isnt racist. Its only a few seperatist that have been. The pure laine seperatists. And its been used as a propaganda machine for Federalist and Ottawa. To slander the seperatist movement as racist and xenophobic. Your ignorance has been proven, without doubt, as you've believed it. I see a multicultural Québec. A montreal like Québec to be precise. To learn more then just english in school. To have a distinct anglophone community. To give it to tools to prosper.

Many share in my views. My collegues, fellow members, and many Elected officials of the PQ and BQ. Sadly, the old guard is currently a problem. They shall be extinct in no time. The remnants of Parizeau. Landry for one. Our movement will soon take a new face. A new path. It will renew with the original vision of René.

 

[Andem]

Andrew,

You're always saying how unique Québec is to the rest of Canada but you fail to realise that each province is unique in it's own way.

Why do you group "the rest of Canada" together as one? Ontario is far different from BC and especially Alberta. Infact we are nothing like Alberta.

Nova Scotia is nothing like Québec and doesn't resemble Manitoba in the very least. What about Newfoundland? They are probably more unique than Québec when comparing to the rest of Canada.

The "uniqueness arguement" doesn't work on me... It's just as different as any other part of Canada.

 

[gerryh]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

Yeah, right, what about dem Acadiens, damn lucky they were not shot in the back while being forced onto the boats! Their treaty was violated, the cattle stolen, houses burned, women raped, you know, the usual and customary stuff of genocide and racial cleansing!

What about our treaties, do we ever get a hearing?

What about the Acadiens? We're talking about Quebec, you want to bitch about the way Acadiens were treated, then start a new thread and back up your complaints.

 

[no1important]

Quebec never shares with the rest of Canada and never has. The feds just keep on giving to Quebec always have and always will. If we were a real country we would hang all those seperatist bastards for treason. Quebec will always be the spoiled child for votes. <<<SNIPPED BY ADMINISTRATION FOR FOUL LANGUAGE>>>

 

[LadyC]

I think someone's up past his bedtime........

 

[Reverend Blair]

Quebec never shares with the rest of Canada and never has.

Nonsense, they share with Canada just as much as Alberta does.

The feds just keep on giving to Quebec always have and always will.

They give to Quebec because there are more seats there. There are more seats there because there are more people there. Did ya notice that the feds have paid more attention to Alberta since that province got to more seats? Did ya notice that L'il Stevie Harper has been going out of his way to suck up to Quebec now that he thinks he can be a real boy one day? Do ya think that, should Canada make a heinous mistake, Harper wouldn;t throw money and kisses at Quebec if he were PM?

If we were a real country we would hang all those seperatist bastards for treason.

I hope you are including the oil patch separatists in that statement.

 

[gerryh]

So tell me.... is it the schools fault for not teaching proper Canadian history.... or is it a matter of students these days are just too damn lazt to learn?

 

[chrisfer]

As an anglophone born in Quebec, let me give you my take. Jean Charest has to walk a tightrope right now, he has managed to get in government but the trick is staying. Over generations a paranoia has developed in a portion of french quebec that believes if they do not fight for their language they will lose it. This is of course false but it is passed down from generation to generation. If Charest were to come in and try to undo all the $%&@ that the parti -quebecois has done quickly he would be out the next election. So the balancing act continues trying to advance a province that has fallen behind the others and keeping a large portion of the voters happy. Good luck to him.

 

[Reverend Blair]

So tell me.... is it the schools fault for not teaching proper Canadian history.... or is it a matter of students these days are just too damn lazt to learn?

It varies from province to province, but there's plenty of blame to spread around.

Jean Charest has to walk a tightrope right now, he has managed to get in government but the trick is staying. Over generations a paranoia has developed in a portion of french quebec that believes if they do not fight for their language they will lose it.

It isn't all about language though. A lot of people vote for the PQ because they are socially progressive.

 

[Mediana]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

I see a multicultural Québec. A montreal like Québec to be precise. To learn more then just english in school. To have a distinct anglophone community. To give it to tools to prosper.

I would like to share with you my observations about multiculturalism in and outside of the province of Quebec.

When Quebec first implemented its policy of ethnic cleansing, which resulted in the mass exodus of people out of the province *, it split the minority communities into two classes: those who left to pursue the same freedoms and opportunities of expression as other Canadians, and those who stayed because they like the way Quebec's policies encourages strong, self-reliant ethnic enclaves. The result is two different approaches to multiculturalism: one which is outward gazing (hyphenated Canadian = hear me roar) vs. the other which is inward gazing (neo-Québecois = my diaspora is my refuge).

* Quebec loses more people to the rest of the country than any other province and, consequently, has to compensate with an influx of immigrants from other preferably francophone countries.
Individuals whose mother tongue was English accounted for nearly two-thirds of Quebec's net interprovincial loss between the 1991 and 1996 censuses, even though they made up only 9 per cent of the province's population.

 

[Numure]

RE: More b.s. from French

The fe4ar mongering did its work. And they wernt happy that we "reclaimed" what is ours. Montreal was english, before. It was hard to get services in french. It was hard to get a job if you we're french. It was hard to just live if you we're french. My aunt grew up there, she told me about it. Not to discount all the other countless tales. Does anglophones left because of our laws. Giving the rights back to the majority. They are the anglophones that could not speak french, yet have lived here their hole life.

When I talk to an anglophone that cannot speak french (Or has a hard time speaking it) in Québec, or anywhere else, I switch to english. Out of respect. I've never seen that respect returned, in a reversed situation.



Might I add, our french is more french then the french in france.

Le "drugstore". Le "Parking". Mon "Shopping"..... So many other examples of english words almost completly integrated within the French (France) language.

 

[sj007]

speakin about the PQ i like alot more of thier policies
then the PLQ i must say the major one i dont like is Soverenty but hey that s me

When I talk to an anglophone that cannot speak french (Or has a hard time speaking it) in Québec, or anywhere else, I switch to english. Out of respect. I've never seen that respect returned, in a reversed situation

ca cest grave par exemple les amis

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

speakin about the PQ i like alot more of thier policies
then the PLQ i must say the major one i dont like is Soverenty but hey that s me

When I talk to an anglophone that cannot speak french (Or has a hard time speaking it) in Québec, or anywhere else, I switch to english. Out of respect. I've never seen that respect returned, in a reversed situation

ca cest grave par exemple les amis

Its the contrary, mon ami. The PLQ (Parti Liberal du Québec), and PQ (Parti Québécois).

 

[sj007]

nono u dont under stand i like PQ

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French-Canada......

nono u dont under stand i like PQ

Ahh. Then as do many . They have better overall policies. If it wasnt for seperation, they would have alot more support. Besides, our independance isnt decided by what party we vote for. But when a referendum is done.

Next election, will most likely bring them back. As they always do, after a short break in opposition. The population notice how too far right the other party is.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More b.s. from French

You should drop the separtist slant and have all the PQ people sign up for the NDP, Numure. Then you wouldn;t want to leave Canada because it would be like heaven on earth. ;-)

(Oh man am I gonna get it for that one)

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: More b.s. from French

You should drop the separtist slant and have all the PQ people sign up for the NDP, Numure. Then you wouldn;t want to leave Canada because it would be like heaven on earth. ;-)

(Oh man am I gonna get it for that one)

The NDP are way too centrist for me.