MONSANTO

Reverend Blair

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Apr 3, 2004
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What happens is that they push others out of the market and then by, "aggressively enforce patent laws on Roundup Ready technology," they make it impossible to grow non-GM products in the area.

It is impossible to grow non-Roundup ready in an area where the Roundup version is also being grown because of cross-pollenation and seed scatter.
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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What happens is that they push others out of the market and then by, "aggressively enforce patent laws on Roundup Ready technology," they make it impossible to grow non-GM products in the area.

It is impossible to grow non-Roundup ready in an area where the Roundup version is also being grown because of cross-pollenation and seed scatter.
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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Winnipeg
What happens is that they push others out of the market and then by, "aggressively enforce patent laws on Roundup Ready technology," they make it impossible to grow non-GM products in the area.

It is impossible to grow non-Roundup ready in an area where the Roundup version is also being grown because of cross-pollenation and seed scatter.
 

NSA

Nominee Member
Jan 20, 2005
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That is what pisses me off about the thing - to Monsanto, it seems cross-pollination is "not a bug, it's a feature". I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately planned it that way. The Schmeisser case certainly seems like a way to intimidate farmers into paying for licenses "just in case"... and if you're paying for a license, why not just grow the stuff outright, spray the glyphosate and bring in some extra bucks?

The technology is being blatantly perverted, nobody's "feeding the world" with this crap. Most of the scientists I know are repulsed by this behaviour.
 

NSA

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Jan 20, 2005
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That is what pisses me off about the thing - to Monsanto, it seems cross-pollination is "not a bug, it's a feature". I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately planned it that way. The Schmeisser case certainly seems like a way to intimidate farmers into paying for licenses "just in case"... and if you're paying for a license, why not just grow the stuff outright, spray the glyphosate and bring in some extra bucks?

The technology is being blatantly perverted, nobody's "feeding the world" with this crap. Most of the scientists I know are repulsed by this behaviour.
 

NSA

Nominee Member
Jan 20, 2005
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Guelph, Ontario
That is what pisses me off about the thing - to Monsanto, it seems cross-pollination is "not a bug, it's a feature". I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately planned it that way. The Schmeisser case certainly seems like a way to intimidate farmers into paying for licenses "just in case"... and if you're paying for a license, why not just grow the stuff outright, spray the glyphosate and bring in some extra bucks?

The technology is being blatantly perverted, nobody's "feeding the world" with this crap. Most of the scientists I know are repulsed by this behaviour.
 

WIAF

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Oct 4, 2004
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Hi Rev Blair & peapod!

I figured I'd find this news item here. How have you been?

I brought up this topic on another forum featuring "The Professor" (You can bet your boots he wouldn't mention it!). His response was to perform a "cost analysis of sin" by comparing the amount of Monsanto's bribe to the budget of an (unmentioned) NGO. Surprised?

Howdy NSA!

Guelph, eh? Any chance you attended the (fairly) recent biotechnology conference at the local U?
 

WIAF

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Oct 4, 2004
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Hi Rev Blair & peapod!

I figured I'd find this news item here. How have you been?

I brought up this topic on another forum featuring "The Professor" (You can bet your boots he wouldn't mention it!). His response was to perform a "cost analysis of sin" by comparing the amount of Monsanto's bribe to the budget of an (unmentioned) NGO. Surprised?

Howdy NSA!

Guelph, eh? Any chance you attended the (fairly) recent biotechnology conference at the local U?
 

WIAF

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Oct 4, 2004
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Hi Rev Blair & peapod!

I figured I'd find this news item here. How have you been?

I brought up this topic on another forum featuring "The Professor" (You can bet your boots he wouldn't mention it!). His response was to perform a "cost analysis of sin" by comparing the amount of Monsanto's bribe to the budget of an (unmentioned) NGO. Surprised?

Howdy NSA!

Guelph, eh? Any chance you attended the (fairly) recent biotechnology conference at the local U?
 

NSA

Nominee Member
Jan 20, 2005
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Guelph, Ontario
That is what pisses me off about the thing - to Monsanto, it seems cross-pollination is "not a bug, it's a feature".

... to clarify, "which is completely opposite to every responsible biotechnologist out there". When DNA-splicing technology was first developed, there was a voluntary moratorium for several years until SAFE vectors were developed which would prevent this in bacteria. This sort of sober thought is notably absent the second a few bucks are to be made, of course.

I am in Guelph, but no, I didn't go to the biotech conference. I'm sure it was interesting but I was probably home watching Buffy or something like that. That tends to happen ;)
 

NSA

Nominee Member
Jan 20, 2005
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Guelph, Ontario
That is what pisses me off about the thing - to Monsanto, it seems cross-pollination is "not a bug, it's a feature".

... to clarify, "which is completely opposite to every responsible biotechnologist out there". When DNA-splicing technology was first developed, there was a voluntary moratorium for several years until SAFE vectors were developed which would prevent this in bacteria. This sort of sober thought is notably absent the second a few bucks are to be made, of course.

I am in Guelph, but no, I didn't go to the biotech conference. I'm sure it was interesting but I was probably home watching Buffy or something like that. That tends to happen ;)
 

NSA

Nominee Member
Jan 20, 2005
66
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6
Guelph, Ontario
That is what pisses me off about the thing - to Monsanto, it seems cross-pollination is "not a bug, it's a feature".

... to clarify, "which is completely opposite to every responsible biotechnologist out there". When DNA-splicing technology was first developed, there was a voluntary moratorium for several years until SAFE vectors were developed which would prevent this in bacteria. This sort of sober thought is notably absent the second a few bucks are to be made, of course.

I am in Guelph, but no, I didn't go to the biotech conference. I'm sure it was interesting but I was probably home watching Buffy or something like that. That tends to happen ;)
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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His response was to perform a "cost analysis of sin" by comparing the amount of Monsanto's bribe to the budget of an (unmentioned) NGO. Surprised?

I'm not surprised at all, WIAF. I hope you responded with a cost analysis of the benefits of having Monsanto pay the travel expenses of one of their shills. The Professor likes when people do that. :lol:
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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Winnipeg
His response was to perform a "cost analysis of sin" by comparing the amount of Monsanto's bribe to the budget of an (unmentioned) NGO. Surprised?

I'm not surprised at all, WIAF. I hope you responded with a cost analysis of the benefits of having Monsanto pay the travel expenses of one of their shills. The Professor likes when people do that. :lol:
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
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Winnipeg
His response was to perform a "cost analysis of sin" by comparing the amount of Monsanto's bribe to the budget of an (unmentioned) NGO. Surprised?

I'm not surprised at all, WIAF. I hope you responded with a cost analysis of the benefits of having Monsanto pay the travel expenses of one of their shills. The Professor likes when people do that. :lol:
 

WIAF

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Oct 4, 2004
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I haven't responded to that one at all - yet, Rev. Timing is important. Besides I'm preparing to feed him a stew of his own agit-prop. :twisted:

Check your messages.
 

WIAF

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Oct 4, 2004
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I haven't responded to that one at all - yet, Rev. Timing is important. Besides I'm preparing to feed him a stew of his own agit-prop. :twisted:

Check your messages.
 

WIAF

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Oct 4, 2004
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I haven't responded to that one at all - yet, Rev. Timing is important. Besides I'm preparing to feed him a stew of his own agit-prop. :twisted:

Check your messages.