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[American Voice]

BuzzWorthy writes: "Up here we are just as concerned about tobacco and it's effects. 213 some odd chemicals (most artificially introduced) but again I reiterate cannabis has not been proven to be harmful unless use becomes (chronic) where studies do support short term memory loss as a sequalie to such consumption."

It is, of course, a matter of opinion, but in my personal experience as a "head," marijuana use does tend typically to be, indeed, chronic. There is disagreement as to whether this phenomenon represents physical addiction, or whether it as an emotional dependency.

As for the STML, I like to tell people: Unlike Bill Clinton, I inhaled. But, hey, it was only once; after that, I just don't remember. . .

In Cincinnati recently, a man being prosecuted for growing marijuana was convicted, but he was sentenced only to three years probation. He was a chemo patient, and because of the severe nausea could only eat after having smoked marijuana.

I used to grow it, indoors with lights. I found I got superior results using Peter's Professional Plant Food, the orchid formula. I harvested the tender tips. Killer stuff! Wow!

With the resumption of full-scale opium poppy farming in Afghanistan, we are likely to see a sharp increase in heroin-addiction. Is marijuana a "gateway" drug. In my experience, it isn't. With some people, simply being alive is a gateway to addiction and death. Those are hard cases, and as a wise jurist once said, "hard cases make bad laws."

 

[American Voice]

I should add, as long as I'm logged in, that when I cultivated the plant indoors, I used a soil mixture of 1/2 African violet mix and 1/2 composted cow manure. That seems to work best. Also, boil your clay pots before and in-between uses--it makes a difference, or maybe I just think so. It's been a few years.

 

[Darkgrammer]

while marijuana has never killed anyone

lmao, right, you know your statistics very well kid. :wink:

 

[crash]

Now...some people say that the first time they smoked weed that they didn't get high. Now I don't know about that but the first time I smoked weed I was toked UP.

Sure, legalize it, I don't care one way or another. I can get it just as convieniantly as going to the local corner store anyway.
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[vista]

This is great.

With this thread I decided to start growing cannabis in my basement - but where to start? do I need timers for lights? do I need fans? what about soil? the smell of growing pot?

Questions. Questions. Questions.

But they have all been answered. My power company was nice enough to send me an informative brochure, "Marijuana Grow Home Operations: What you need to know."

Fantastic. I start tomorrow.

 

[Sinshune]

while marijuana has never killed anyone

lmao, right, you know your statistics very well kid. :wink:

Actually, that "kid" does know what s/he's talking about.

It is physically impossible to overdose on cannabis. In over 5000 years of recorded history, there has not been one death directly resulting from cannabis consumption (unlike alcohol, cigarettes, and heroin, you know, the hard drugs).

Do you have proof stating otherwise?

 

[bevvyd]

I'm from BC and we don't have any problem getting 'weeds' to grow. We laughed like hell when the Government couldn't grow any that was worth selling. "Hey we got a few thousand growers here that are doing very nicely, want some advice!"

And never mind the peat and manure, use Sunshine mix, it works the best. And you can grow it outside but watchout for other people cause it does tend to go missing every once in a while.

 

[BuzzzWorthy]

Even faced with uncontroversial proof, with the Fraser Report, the Ledane(sp) Commission Report and the Stats Can Report all of which clearly and demonstratively came to one conclusion; Legalize, Regulate and Tax it.

Then we have the good old US of A.

A while back for those who do not know our first female Canadian Magistrate (Emily Murphy) decided that because marijuana causes those who consume it to go insane, murder and rape their family members and finally the cannabis consumer will die from using it she must do something.

Emily got that data from our southern neighbors and being a racist and a suffragist (a real tea drinker) she in her dream to keep us all safe convinced parliament to draft laws ultimately placing it in the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (sec 4) in the same category as Cocaine, Heroin etc.

Fortunately for us mindless potheads Terry Parker fought for over twenty years and finally, finally a Supreme Court Ruling freed us all from the terrene. In 2001 the laws against marijuana were struck down and since then it has been a completely legal substance.

Now if you listen to the Govt and the police they will tell you that in fact it is illegal because the Ontario Court of Appeals took the dead law out of the garbage can and wrote something pretty on it and called it a re enactment. That was on October 7 2003. Since then and prior to then many thousands of Canadians have been arrested and convicted for a crime that is not known to law.

As it stands in Canada (our home not the US of A) in order to get a law (Re enacted) it must be re written in parliament and receive three votes and final accent then the law is real.

Sorry there all you prohibitionists but now you know. I may have pissed on your shoe but at least I did'nt tell you it was raining.

 

[bevvyd]

We have some areas here around Vancouver where possessing a small amount, not sure what size that is exactly, is AOK. I guess the police have better things to do then bust some person for a couple of doobers. And thank goodness for that.

 

[BudBuddy]

We have some areas here around Vancouver where possessing a small amount, not sure what size that is exactly, is AOK. I guess the police have better things to do then bust some person for a couple of doobers. And thank goodness for that.

Nowhere in Canada is it actually legal or AOK to possess, smoke or grow pot. The law is the same everywhere in Canada.

It's true that Vancouver cops now often turn a blind eye to some compassion clubs, and to a few cafes that allow pot use on the premises.

But pot isn't legal in Vancouver, and the new proposed "decrim" bill from the federal Liberals will actually make things worse, not better.

 

[BudBuddy]

We have some areas here around Vancouver where possessing a small amount, not sure what size that is exactly, is AOK. I guess the police have better things to do then bust some person for a couple of doobers. And thank goodness for that.

Nowhere in Canada is it actually legal or AOK to possess, smoke or grow pot. The law is the same everywhere in Canada.

It's true that Vancouver cops now often turn a blind eye to some compassion clubs, and to a few cafes that allow pot use on the premises.

But pot isn't legal in Vancouver, and the new proposed "decrim" bill from the federal Liberals will actually make things worse, not better.

 

[BudBuddy]

We have some areas here around Vancouver where possessing a small amount, not sure what size that is exactly, is AOK. I guess the police have better things to do then bust some person for a couple of doobers. And thank goodness for that.

Nowhere in Canada is it actually legal or AOK to possess, smoke or grow pot. The law is the same everywhere in Canada.

It's true that Vancouver cops now often turn a blind eye to some compassion clubs, and to a few cafes that allow pot use on the premises.

But pot isn't legal in Vancouver, and the new proposed "decrim" bill from the federal Liberals will actually make things worse, not better.

 

[pill]

Guys, I only wish it would be much easier to smoke in peace in your area. I live in 1 of the 2 countries where it is authorized to possess & smoke it, under certain conditions.
Time to roll another one. :wink:

 

[pill]

Guys, I only wish it would be much easier to smoke in peace in your area. I live in 1 of the 2 countries where it is authorized to possess & smoke it, under certain conditions.
Time to roll another one. :wink:

 

[pill]

Guys, I only wish it would be much easier to smoke in peace in your area. I live in 1 of the 2 countries where it is authorized to possess & smoke it, under certain conditions.
Time to roll another one. :wink:

 

[tibear]

It is physically impossible to overdose on cannabis. In over 5000 years of recorded history, there has not been one death directly resulting from cannabis consumption (unlike alcohol, cigarettes, and heroin, you know, the hard drugs).

Would you also include those people who killed others after having "smoked and driven"???

Or others who have smoked and then fell, wander into traffic, etc???

 

[tibear]

It is physically impossible to overdose on cannabis. In over 5000 years of recorded history, there has not been one death directly resulting from cannabis consumption (unlike alcohol, cigarettes, and heroin, you know, the hard drugs).

Would you also include those people who killed others after having "smoked and driven"???

Or others who have smoked and then fell, wander into traffic, etc???

 

[tibear]

It is physically impossible to overdose on cannabis. In over 5000 years of recorded history, there has not been one death directly resulting from cannabis consumption (unlike alcohol, cigarettes, and heroin, you know, the hard drugs).

Would you also include those people who killed others after having "smoked and driven"???

Or others who have smoked and then fell, wander into traffic, etc???

 

[BudBuddy]

Would you also include those people who killed others after having "smoked and driven"???

Or others who have smoked and then fell, wander into traffic, etc???

Like many people who are unfamiliar with the effects of marijuana, you overestimate the effects of pot, and seem to think that it is the same as alcohol. Marijuana is very different than alcohol, and does not affect hand-eye coordination or reaction time the same way that alcohol does.

Alcohol consumption has been repeatedly shown to adversly affect driving performance, even at dosages below the standard 0.08% legal blood alcohol limit. Hundreds of studies have confirmed this.

In comparison, the effects of marijuana use on driving performance have also been extensively researched over the last 20 years. All major studies show that marijuana consumption has little or no effect on driving ability, and may actually reduce accidents.

Here's a summary of the biggest studies into pot use and driving from the last 20 years.

* A 1983 study by the US National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) concluded that the only significant affect of cannabis use was slower driving - arguably a positive effect of driving high.

* A comprehensive 1992 NHTSA study revealed that pot is rarely involved in driving accidents, except when combined with alcohol. The study concluded that "the THC-only drivers had an [accident] responsibility rate below that of the drug free drivers." This study was buried for six years and not released until 1998.

* A 1993 NHTSA study dosed Dutch drivers with THC and tested them on real Dutch roads. It concluded that THC caused no impairment except for a slight deficiency in the driver's ability to "maintain a steady lateral position on the road." This means that the THC-dosed drivers had a little trouble staying smack in the center of their lanes, but showed no other problems. The study noted that the effects of even high doses of THC were far less than that of alcohol or many prescription drugs. The study concluded that "THC's adverse effects on driving performance appear relatively small."

* A massive 1998 study by the University of Adelaide and Transport South Australia examined blood samples from drivers involved in 2,500 accidents. It found that drivers with only cannabis in their systems were slightly less likely to cause accidents than those without. Drivers with both marijuana and alcohol did have a high accident responsibility rate. The report concluded, "there was no indication that marijuana by itself was a cause of fatal accidents."

* In Canada, a 1999 University of Toronto meta-analysis of studies into pot and driving showed that drivers who consumed a moderate amount of pot typically refrained from passing cars and drove at a more consistent speed. The analysis also confirmed that marijuana taken alone does not increase a driver's risk of causing an accident.

* A major study done by the UK Transport Research Laboratory in 2000 found that drivers under the influence of cannabis were more cautious and less likely to drive dangerously. The study examined the effects of marijuana use on drivers through four weeks of tests on driving simulators. The study was commissioned specifically to show that marijuana was impairing, and the british government was embarrassed with the study's conclusion that "marijuana users drive more safely under the influence of cannabis."

* According to the Cannabis and Driving report, a comprehensive literature review published in 2000 by the UK Department of Transportation, "the majority of evidence suggests that cannabis use may result in a lower risk of [accident] culpability."

* The Canadian Senate issued a major report into all aspects of marijuana in 2002. Their chapter on Driving under the influence of cannabis concludes that "Cannabis alone, particularly in low doses, has little effect on the skills involved in automobile driving."

* The most recent study into drugs and driving was published in the July 2004 Journal of Accident Analysis and Prevention. Researchers at the Dutch Institute for Road Safety Research analyzed blood tests from those in traffic accidents, and found that even people with blood alcohol between 0.5% and 0.8% (below the legal limit) had a five-fold increase in the risk of serious accident. Drivers above the legal alcohol limit were 15 times more likely to have a collision. Drugs like Valium and Rohypnol produced results similar to alcohol, while cocaine and opiates showed only a small but "not statistically significant" increase in accident risk. As for the marijuana-only users? They showed absolutely no increased risk of accidents at all.

For links to all these studies, and further information, go here: http://www.cannabisculture.com/news/driving

 

[BudBuddy]

Would you also include those people who killed others after having "smoked and driven"???

Or others who have smoked and then fell, wander into traffic, etc???

Like many people who are unfamiliar with the effects of marijuana, you overestimate the effects of pot, and seem to think that it is the same as alcohol. Marijuana is very different than alcohol, and does not affect hand-eye coordination or reaction time the same way that alcohol does.

Alcohol consumption has been repeatedly shown to adversly affect driving performance, even at dosages below the standard 0.08% legal blood alcohol limit. Hundreds of studies have confirmed this.

In comparison, the effects of marijuana use on driving performance have also been extensively researched over the last 20 years. All major studies show that marijuana consumption has little or no effect on driving ability, and may actually reduce accidents.

Here's a summary of the biggest studies into pot use and driving from the last 20 years.

* A 1983 study by the US National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) concluded that the only significant affect of cannabis use was slower driving - arguably a positive effect of driving high.

* A comprehensive 1992 NHTSA study revealed that pot is rarely involved in driving accidents, except when combined with alcohol. The study concluded that "the THC-only drivers had an [accident] responsibility rate below that of the drug free drivers." This study was buried for six years and not released until 1998.

* A 1993 NHTSA study dosed Dutch drivers with THC and tested them on real Dutch roads. It concluded that THC caused no impairment except for a slight deficiency in the driver's ability to "maintain a steady lateral position on the road." This means that the THC-dosed drivers had a little trouble staying smack in the center of their lanes, but showed no other problems. The study noted that the effects of even high doses of THC were far less than that of alcohol or many prescription drugs. The study concluded that "THC's adverse effects on driving performance appear relatively small."

* A massive 1998 study by the University of Adelaide and Transport South Australia examined blood samples from drivers involved in 2,500 accidents. It found that drivers with only cannabis in their systems were slightly less likely to cause accidents than those without. Drivers with both marijuana and alcohol did have a high accident responsibility rate. The report concluded, "there was no indication that marijuana by itself was a cause of fatal accidents."

* In Canada, a 1999 University of Toronto meta-analysis of studies into pot and driving showed that drivers who consumed a moderate amount of pot typically refrained from passing cars and drove at a more consistent speed. The analysis also confirmed that marijuana taken alone does not increase a driver's risk of causing an accident.

* A major study done by the UK Transport Research Laboratory in 2000 found that drivers under the influence of cannabis were more cautious and less likely to drive dangerously. The study examined the effects of marijuana use on drivers through four weeks of tests on driving simulators. The study was commissioned specifically to show that marijuana was impairing, and the british government was embarrassed with the study's conclusion that "marijuana users drive more safely under the influence of cannabis."

* According to the Cannabis and Driving report, a comprehensive literature review published in 2000 by the UK Department of Transportation, "the majority of evidence suggests that cannabis use may result in a lower risk of [accident] culpability."

* The Canadian Senate issued a major report into all aspects of marijuana in 2002. Their chapter on Driving under the influence of cannabis concludes that "Cannabis alone, particularly in low doses, has little effect on the skills involved in automobile driving."

* The most recent study into drugs and driving was published in the July 2004 Journal of Accident Analysis and Prevention. Researchers at the Dutch Institute for Road Safety Research analyzed blood tests from those in traffic accidents, and found that even people with blood alcohol between 0.5% and 0.8% (below the legal limit) had a five-fold increase in the risk of serious accident. Drivers above the legal alcohol limit were 15 times more likely to have a collision. Drugs like Valium and Rohypnol produced results similar to alcohol, while cocaine and opiates showed only a small but "not statistically significant" increase in accident risk. As for the marijuana-only users? They showed absolutely no increased risk of accidents at all.

For links to all these studies, and further information, go here: http://www.cannabisculture.com/news/driving